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#212612 by VinnyViolin
Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:53 pm
GLENNY J wrote:
VinnyViolin wrote:Image


Great answer Vinny. From some one that is preaching against hate and violence.

YET... THAT IS ALL YOU PREACH.

Go for it!


Ah, you heard the words "ignorant extremist" and came running!!
That's a good boy, Glenny, that's a good boy!!! :lol:

#212614 by VinnyViolin
Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:59 pm
PaperDog wrote:Vinny, the rules of this debate clearly stipulated that we would not drag other religions into it. But you are all over the map...every where EXCEPT where you need to be Can you or can you not deliver 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done for the USA.? ( And NO...local Spies, who turned in many war criminals during Iraq... don't count. (They were paid handsomely to betray their daddies...)


What extremist religion do you follow that leads you to believe I would follow your rules? :?

Another wacky Texan thing I guess ... :lol: (do we get a free pair of Nikes if we obey you?)

#212617 by PaperDog
Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:12 am
VinnyViolin wrote:
PaperDog wrote:Vinny, the rules of this debate clearly stipulated that we would not drag other religions into it. But you are all over the map...every where EXCEPT where you need to be Can you or can you not deliver 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done for the USA.? ( And NO...local Spies, who turned in many war criminals during Iraq... don't count. (They were paid handsomely to betray their daddies...)


What extremist religion do you follow that leads you to believe I would follow your rules? :?

Another wacky Texan thing I guess ... :lol: (do we get a free pair of Nikes if we obey you?)


Vinny, are you lying in a fetal position right now...sheesh! I was merely sporting and challenging you to a good debate here, which i see now I have won, hands down...

Bob's statement...was dead-nuts on target... Islamist are fundamentally immersed in hatred against Americans. If you are Muslum and you don't hate me Vinny, its because of you as an individual...not because of Islamic principle or ideology. (In fact, you would be in violation of that religion for thinking outside of its box.) 'Islamist' behaviors against Americans, as well as against themselves just exemplifies what everybody suspects...ISLAM ideology does not profess real love... at best, it offers a transient, superficial love, which is easily tarnished...and abandoned when face is lost. Islam began in 600 Ad, and its stayed there ever since.

#212619 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:16 am
Vinny, Buddy, You are the first one the extremists will take out.

I would actually back off all the points you have been making. Just so you understand... as aggravating as you are I would never, ever , consider the harm that these people will do to you ... Just because you have a lack of understanding the power and force that will be brought down upon you.

Vinny... I would start being quiet... unless your balls are that big.


SSSSHHHHHH.

#212620 by VinnyViolin
Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:24 am
GLENNY J wrote:Vinny, Buddy, You are the first one the extremists will take out.

I would actually back off all the points you have been making. Just so you understand... as aggravating as you are I would never, ever , consider the harm that these people will do to you ... Just because you have a lack of understanding the power and force that will be brought down upon you.

Vinny... I would start being quiet... unless your balls are that big.


SSSSHHHHHH.


Aww, don't be so scared Glenny ...I got your back! :lol:
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#212624 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:02 am
I aint scared, and you don't have my back.

Where the FUUCK do you come off thinking that I am scared of ANYTHING?

You make me laugh.

#212625 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:09 am
SSSHHHH , Vinny... They coming for you first...

You are an easy target. The problem is you are too intelligent and that will cause problems later. Sorry buddy, I aint JESUS CHRIST, and I can't save everybody.

#212626 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:10 am
Sorry, They gonna kill you first. Can't save you.

#212635 by VinnyViolin
Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:57 am
GLENNY J wrote:Sorry, They gonna kill you first. Can't save you.

I understand, I guess I should consider myself lucky that you are so intimately connected with these murderous extremists, that you know their plans in advance!

I'm impressed !!! Thank you for going so far as to stick your neck out like that to warn me!

I hope you haven't endangered yourself and family by such a noble gesture on my behalf! That's quite a risk you are taking, do take care Glenny!!! 8)

#212654 by DainNobody
Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:39 pm
PaperDog wrote:Vinny, the rules of this debate clearly stipulated that we would not drag other religions into it. But you are all over the map...every where EXCEPT where you need to be Can you or can you not deliver 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done for the USA.? ( And NO...local Spies, who turned in many war criminals during Iraq... don't count. (They were paid handsomely to betray their daddies...)
I can not answer for vinny, nor do I want to, but I can name 1 good thing Islam has done, and that is sell us oil out of Saudi and Iraqi ground..

#212655 by DainNobody
Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:44 pm
2nd good thing, the Islam religion was one of the only cultures as to not let scientific advancement generally conceived by the ancient Greeks get lost through the ages, they kept good records and passed along mathematics in the form of algebra and Euclidean geometry to the West in general, with this science used to make life more comfortable to people in the Western culture in general.

#212656 by DainNobody
Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:48 pm
3rd good thing, the Moorish (Islam) influence in Spain in the middle Ages.. left many inventions that generally could be considered improvements on basic "dark ages" mentality mode of living then practiced by Western culture..

#212658 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:17 pm
4th good thing, they invented beer.

Unfortunately their God forbade it. Mine didn't. There for my God is much much better and will smite down all the idols of allah as surely as they are all just play toys. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#212668 by PaperDog
Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:56 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
PaperDog wrote:Vinny, the rules of this debate clearly stipulated that we would not drag other religions into it. But you are all over the map...every where EXCEPT where you need to be Can you or can you not deliver 5 GOOD things that ISLAMISTS have done for the USA.? ( And NO...local Spies, who turned in many war criminals during Iraq... don't count. (They were paid handsomely to betray their daddies...)
I can not answer for vinny, nor do I want to, but I can name 1 good thing Islam has done, and that is sell us oil out of Saudi and Iraqi ground..


Not Bad...But Oil is not an ISLAM favor... It's a MIDDLE EAST/WEST Business arrangement. What it did 'for' USA, WORLD, MIDDLE EAST... was to boost some economy... But that want a 'favor'...It was 'bought and paid for'.

#212673 by PaperDog
Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:11 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:2nd good thing, the Islam religion was one of the only cultures as to not let scientific advancement generally conceived by the ancient Greeks get lost through the ages, they kept good records and passed along mathematics in the form of algebra and Euclidean geometry to the West in general, with this science used to make life more comfortable to people in the Western culture in general.


That's arguable. Prehistory of algebra goes back to Babalonians and egyptians (long before ISLAM appeared) Nevertheless, Most of the science you speak of with respect to Islam, translated to war/technologies. In fact a key criticism agianst islam is that of morality.

As you prolly know, today's Bushmaster has its roots in the stirrup and saddle. For the record, it was the Greeks who defined 'science' per se. (And subsequent models (via Aristotle, for example) and philosophies). ISLAM borrowed (not saved) hard sciences- primarily Mathematics to obtain leverage over the infidels and opposing Arab Communities. More specifically, (with much respect to war technology), accounting was developed/improves to preserve a system of logistics-tracking (Hence, Algebra) . I will Grant that algebra improved lives worldwide as it was adopted... But that doesnt come from ISLAM.

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