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#212503 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:44 pm
WHAT???? Over one little 19 year old terrorist. Gotta be a joke. Beantown Shut down. Either Boston is filled with cowards or this was just a test.
This was over a 19 year old and a 26 year old. 1 dead 1 still on the loose.
No it wasn't... It was about about how our government has already attained the ability to make our citizens COWAR in fear.
This kid will surface again... He will face justice... He will should be the reason for strict immigration laws. What he did, with his brother, WAS sick.

Meanwhile the same things the radical left are screaming... FOR, has brought a city to a stand still out of fear. This was being done in the name of protecting all the citizens. Gun abolition and wide open borders. What a shame.
Just to remind some of yew what Merica is bout...

It's about FREEDOM. Jimmy you think about it. and then actually spend some time and read and understand this...

We The People

We have all heard the term civil disobedience. It is a term used to describe any action that goes against the authority of the the powers granted to maintain a stable community. This is to mean a government granted the authority to prevent anarchy and chaos. This is essential to provide a stable environment where a community can prosper in relative safety.

However I would be inclined to point out a similar phrase, that must be understood as well. Governmental disobedience. This is the United States of America. This is a nation of free men and women that have chosen to allow a government under THEIR AUTHORITY... to surrender some of their choices for the greater good of the community. In other words some of us would rather drive on the left side of the road but instead we all agree to drive on the right. It helps to avoid chaos.

However at what point are we surrendering our authority to a government that is suddenly empowered by it's own will. At what point does a government overstep that fine line, and by the very belief that the power imbued is actually from the governments very own existence.

At that point we have opened the doors to something far worse than anarchy. We have opened the doors to tyranny and GOVERNMENTAL DISOBEDIENCE!

When our government at all levels, national, state , local, and even towns, start to make decisions without the true consent of the people... Usually the reasoning starts with... I was elected by the people because they trust my judgment in all the matters that I was elected for. That includes any reasoning that could influence my decisions... even if the outcome is different than the perceived values that got me elected in the first place.

The problem is that we have empowered a person. A person that is also another human being the same as every one that elected him. Prone to human frailties, anger, prejudice, pet projects, and loves. Prone to mistakes and prone to pride, greed and a long list of human qualities.

Once we have empowered this elected official it is then we must be very mindful of the very reason we have allowed a government to moderate our freedoms. A government is meant to arbitrate our petty differences for the good of the whole community. A government is meant to provide stable rules and laws. I use the word stable because every law throughout history usually has some stable basis or precedent. If laws where just changed overnight and on a continual basis, it would only lead to the very anarchy we are trying to avoid to begin with. All this law making must not be approached with just a casual attitude of the man empowered by the fact of his election. It must be approached with the gravity and tremendous responsibility allowed, If we are to maintain a free society.

Once this relationship between government and a free people is corrupted in any way or manner, the out cry should be overwhelming. At that point we have reached, the point of governmental disobedience. That is the point where the government is more important than the people and the power is no longer coming from the true authority. THE PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE.
Glen Johnston.
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#212512 by GuitarMikeB
Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:48 am
The lockdown was so that the little punk could not hurt anyone else and hold anyone hostage. It worked, he's in custody a few hours after the lockdown ended.
You want to ask for a vote every time a decision like this has to be made? Real intelligent thinking.
If everyone in the neighborhood packed a gun, would this have been any different? NO - except maybe a few more people dead when cops some them with weapons and shot first.
Kudos to the cops, FBI and everyone who brought this to an end.

#212550 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:44 am
GuitarMikeB wrote:The lockdown was so that the little punk could not hurt anyone else and hold anyone hostage. It worked, he's in custody a few hours after the lockdown ended.
You want to ask for a vote every time a decision like this has to be made? Real intelligent thinking.
If everyone in the neighborhood packed a gun, would this have been any different? NO - except maybe a few more people dead when cops some them with weapons and shot first.
Kudos to the cops, FBI and everyone who brought this to an end.


Yeah kudos to the cops and FBI and everyone that finalized this.

You are wrong... If every one had packed a gun the guy who was carjacked might have stopped it at the beginning. The target area would have been a place of high risk instead of a soft target for terrorism. You go on believing what you will, and your anti gun thinking may some day kill you... When some maniac with a weapon knows just how vulnerable you are.

In the mean time this was a very good practice run on how to instill terror into the people and using lockdown as a tool, to control the population. Good luck with that buddy! Thanks for the insult about my intelligent thinking. Go look in the mirror. :lol:

#212553 by RGMixProject
Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:04 pm
BAN Back packs!!!

Ban Back Packs


Ban Back Packs

#212566 by Slacker G
Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:45 pm
Is it safe to go outside yet? I ordered my pressure cooker today and in about 30 days or so the Bloomberg universal kitchenware background checks should clear me in order to pick it up. Great idea since it covers all kitchen utensils such as knives and sporks.

#212621 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:31 am
RGMixProject wrote:BAN Back packs!!!

Ban Back Packs


Ban Back Packs


If you can't tax it... BAN IT.

#212622 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:42 am
MOST AMERICANS HAVE BECOME WUSSEY CHICKENSHOOTS!
Afraid of hard work, relying on the government to back them up when they fail and blaming every one else for their own short comings. Then having the balls to blame the rich for giving them a fuucking job. I don't have a job, I don't count on some one else, I can't even count on my government to stop fucucking around with me...
YA KNOW WHAT???? I'M STILL HERE! Get the point?

I'M TIRED OF HEARING THIS.

#212642 by Litost
Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:54 am
GLENNY J wrote:
GuitarMikeB wrote:The lockdown was so that the little punk could not hurt anyone else and hold anyone hostage. It worked, he's in custody a few hours after the lockdown ended.
You want to ask for a vote every time a decision like this has to be made? Real intelligent thinking.
If everyone in the neighborhood packed a gun, would this have been any different? NO - except maybe a few more people dead when cops some them with weapons and shot first.
Kudos to the cops, FBI and everyone who brought this to an end.


Yeah kudos to the cops and FBI and everyone that finalized this.

You are wrong... If every one had packed a gun the guy who was carjacked might have stopped it at the beginning. The target area would have been a place of high risk instead of a soft target for terrorism. You go on believing what you will, and your anti gun thinking may some day kill you... When some maniac with a weapon knows just how vulnerable you are.

In the mean time this was a very good practice run on how to instill terror into the people and using lockdown as a tool, to control the population. Good luck with that buddy! Thanks for the insult about my intelligent thinking. Go look in the mirror. :lol:



I could honestly care less about the number of hillbillys who want to play Wild, Wild West out in public to "stop the criminals"... go ahead, play policeman...
What really pisses me off about people wanting easier access to guns is the FACT that more guns = more accidental deaths.
MOST gun owners are responsible... but that will never change the fact that still maybe 1/10 leaves it in a spot where a child or minor has access to them... and maybe only 1/100 kids ever find it... and maybe only 1/1000 children ever find it and fire it... you get where I'm going...
IF ALL gun owners were responsible with their firearms, I wouldn't say anything about it... but the fact is that there WILL be an increase in firearms accidents with a lift on gun control.

#212648 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:29 am
Litost wrote:
GLENNY J wrote:
GuitarMikeB wrote:The lockdown was so that the little punk could not hurt anyone else and hold anyone hostage. It worked, he's in custody a few hours after the lockdown ended.
You want to ask for a vote every time a decision like this has to be made? Real intelligent thinking.
If everyone in the neighborhood packed a gun, would this have been any different? NO - except maybe a few more people dead when cops some them with weapons and shot first.
Kudos to the cops, FBI and everyone who brought this to an end.


Yeah kudos to the cops and FBI and everyone that finalized this.

You are wrong... If every one had packed a gun the guy who was carjacked might have stopped it at the beginning. The target area would have been a place of high risk instead of a soft target for terrorism. You go on believing what you will, and your anti gun thinking may some day kill you... When some maniac with a weapon knows just how vulnerable you are.

In the mean time this was a very good practice run on how to instill terror into the people and using lockdown as a tool, to control the population. Good luck with that buddy! Thanks for the insult about my intelligent thinking. Go look in the mirror. :lol:



I could honestly care less about the number of hillbillys who want to play Wild, Wild West out in public to "stop the criminals"... go ahead, play policeman...
What really pisses me off about people wanting easier access to guns is the FACT that more guns = more accidental deaths.
MOST gun owners are responsible... but that will never change the fact that still maybe 1/10 leaves it in a spot where a child or minor has access to them... and maybe only 1/100 kids ever find it... and maybe only 1/1000 children ever find it and fire it... you get where I'm going...
IF ALL gun owners were responsible with their firearms, I wouldn't say anything about it... but the fact is that there WILL be an increase in firearms accidents with a lift on gun control.


I wouldn't say anything about this...
BUT I WILL.

GUNS ARE NOT FOR PERSONAL HOME DEFENSE! GUNS ARE FOR PERSONAL DEFENSE AGAINST A GOVERNMENT GONE WILD!

All you librocrats are totally scared to shiit of people like me. I AM GOING TO LIVE OUT MY LIFE... AS A FREE MAN. Any body... Vinny,or any one else...

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO FUUCK WITH ME?

#212754 by Litost
Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:11 am
GLENNY J wrote:
Litost wrote:
GLENNY J wrote:
GuitarMikeB wrote:The lockdown was so that the little punk could not hurt anyone else and hold anyone hostage. It worked, he's in custody a few hours after the lockdown ended.
You want to ask for a vote every time a decision like this has to be made? Real intelligent thinking.
If everyone in the neighborhood packed a gun, would this have been any different? NO - except maybe a few more people dead when cops some them with weapons and shot first.
Kudos to the cops, FBI and everyone who brought this to an end.


Yeah kudos to the cops and FBI and everyone that finalized this.

You are wrong... If every one had packed a gun the guy who was carjacked might have stopped it at the beginning. The target area would have been a place of high risk instead of a soft target for terrorism. You go on believing what you will, and your anti gun thinking may some day kill you... When some maniac with a weapon knows just how vulnerable you are.

In the mean time this was a very good practice run on how to instill terror into the people and using lockdown as a tool, to control the population. Good luck with that buddy! Thanks for the insult about my intelligent thinking. Go look in the mirror. :lol:



I could honestly care less about the number of hillbillys who want to play Wild, Wild West out in public to "stop the criminals"... go ahead, play policeman...
What really pisses me off about people wanting easier access to guns is the FACT that more guns = more accidental deaths.
MOST gun owners are responsible... but that will never change the fact that still maybe 1/10 leaves it in a spot where a child or minor has access to them... and maybe only 1/100 kids ever find it... and maybe only 1/1000 children ever find it and fire it... you get where I'm going...
IF ALL gun owners were responsible with their firearms, I wouldn't say anything about it... but the fact is that there WILL be an increase in firearms accidents with a lift on gun control.


I wouldn't say anything about this...
BUT I WILL.

GUNS ARE NOT FOR PERSONAL HOME DEFENSE! GUNS ARE FOR PERSONAL DEFENSE AGAINST A GOVERNMENT GONE WILD!

All you librocrats are totally scared to shiit of people like me. I AM GOING TO LIVE OUT MY LIFE... AS A FREE MAN. Any body... Vinny,or any one else...

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO FUUCK WITH ME?



Scared?? Bhaha... I grew up in the core of Milwaukee and my high school literally doesn't even exist anymore because it was so ghetto (bars on the windows, random metal detector testing, first high school in Milwaukee to install security camera systems within the school) that they gave up on it and distributed all the students to other Milwaukee schools to try and "separate the problem".
A hick like you wouldn't have lasted a day there without getting popped in the jaw... walk in the hood and start asking around if people are scared of you, haha.
Wasn't there a NASCAR race to watch today, anyways? Too busy playing tough guy on the internet... Wow... we are all very impressed.

#212793 by Kramerguy
Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:04 pm
Manhunts are nothing new.. been going on here since about 1492'ish.

Glenny, I guess you think a city curfew is constitutionally illegal?

Is prosecuting someone for yelling 'bomb' in a theater constitutionally illegal?
Is punishing someone for dropping the F bomb on live TV constitutionally illegal?
Is it constitutionally illegal for government to enforce eminent domain?

sometimes the good of the people flanks the good of the individual. I don't always agree with the decisions, and would fight to change on I felt truly trampled my rights for no good reason, but c'mon. These guys were throwing explosives at cops and people alike.. they were a danger to society, and had already proven it. Nothing wrong with shutting down part of a city to have a manhunt. If you want to go in to every situation in your life with guns blazing, join the force.

#212900 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:17 am
Kramerguy wrote:Manhunts are nothing new.. been going on here since about 1492'ish.

Glenny, I guess you think a city curfew is constitutionally illegal?

Is prosecuting someone for yelling 'bomb' in a theater constitutionally illegal?
Is punishing someone for dropping the F bomb on live TV constitutionally illegal?
Is it constitutionally illegal for government to enforce eminent domain?

sometimes the good of the people flanks the good of the individual. I don't always agree with the decisions, and would fight to change on I felt truly trampled my rights for no good reason, but c'mon. These guys were throwing explosives at cops and people alike.. they were a danger to society, and had already proven it. Nothing wrong with shutting down part of a city to have a manhunt. If you want to go in to every situation in your life with guns blazing, join the force.


YES KRAMER, an undeclared lockdown is the same as an declared MARTIAL LAW. They shut down business and forced everyone to stay in lock down mode in their search for ONE SUSPECT. This was a practice drill. It worked. Americans have become such spineless people they will never be able to hold onto FREEDOM.

After that you bring up a bunch of different situations that are so minor and only require personal responsibility to answer them. One hand you have the GOVERNMENT violating the Constitution. Then you compare it to the individual violating the Constitution.

That was clever... Your argument falls way short.

By the way... Eminent Domain... Must be compensated in a fair and decent manner... UNLIKE TAXATION. It is still against all the Christian/ Judea principles to steal. You are demonstrating that it is becoming more acceptable. I still believe it it is wrong.

As I said, this was a practice run, and yes it violated many BASIC Constitutional principles. You my friend must learn to avoid comparing apples and oranges. Yelling fire in a theater is not quite the same as having the GOVERNMENT telling you are under arrest until we capture a suspect and it is in the name of "protecting you"! Thank you for your post.

#213067 by MikeTalbot
Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:38 am
There are only two political realities:

1) The people fear the government.

2) The government fears the people.

That's the only choice we get. Think about it for a second and decide which one you want.

I don't want to go through life with guns blazing Mr. Kramer. I'm willing though. If enough people are willing, you get option 2. Option 1 is too horrible for me to countenance.

Talbot

#213070 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:49 am
Geeze you guys, miss all the major points, except for the guys that don't. :)

We The People

We have all heard the term civil disobedience. It is a term used to describe any action that goes against the authority of the the powers granted to maintain a stable community. This is to mean a government granted the authority to prevent anarchy and chaos. This is essential to provide a stable environment where a community can prosper in relative safety.

However I would be inclined to point out a similar phrase, that must be understood as well. Governmental disobedience. This is the United States of America. This is a nation of free men and women that have chosen to allow a government under THEIR AUTHORITY... to surrender some of their choices for the greater good of the community. In other words some of us would rather drive on the left side of the road but instead we all agree to drive on the right. It helps to avoid chaos.

However at what point are we surrendering our authority to a government that is suddenly empowered by it's own will. At what point does a government overstep that fine line, and by the very belief that the power imbued is actually from the governments very own existence.

At that point we have opened the doors to something far worse than anarchy. We have opened the doors to tyranny and GOVERNMENTAL DISOBEDIENCE!

When our government at all levels, national, state , local, and even towns, start to make decisions without the true consent of the people... Usually the reasoning starts with... I was elected by the people because they trust my judgment in all the matters that I was elected for. That includes any reasoning that could influence my decisions... even if the outcome is different than the perceived values that got me elected in the first place.

The problem is that we have empowered a person. A person that is also another human being the same as every one that elected him. Prone to human frailties, anger, prejudice, pet projects, and loves. Prone to mistakes and prone to pride, greed and a long list of human qualities.

Once we have empowered this elected official it is then we must be very mindful of the very reason we have allowed a government to moderate our freedoms. A government is meant to arbitrate our petty differences for the good of the whole community. A government is meant to provide stable rules and laws. I use the word stable because every law throughout history usually has some stable basis or precedent. If laws where just changed overnight and on a continual basis, it would only lead to the very anarchy we are trying to avoid to begin with. All this law making must not be approached with just a casual attitude of the man empowered by the fact of his election. It must be approached with the gravity and tremendous responsibility allowed, If we are to maintain a free society.

Once this relationship between government and a free people is corrupted in any way or manner, the out cry should be overwhelming. At that point we have reached, the point of governmental disobedience. That is the point where the government is more important than the people and the power is no longer coming from the true authority. THE PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE.
Glen Johnston.

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