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Well put Bob, but I'm probably more conservative than that, even though none of the righties here would admit it. I'm for choice UP TO three months; after that no abortion unless the mother's life is in danger. Also, no government or insurance paid abortions; the families involved should pay the costs. Finally, I support the second amendment but do not support the ownership of high-capacity ammo clips or assault-style weapons. Our forefathers never intended that.

GEEZE I hear a parakeet singing a different song. The fact is you supported Obama and he is totally devoted to protecting abortion.
The fact is he is totally ANTI GUN.
Since you voted for him you are pro abortion at any level and anti gun at any level.

Jimmy QUIT BULL DINKING EVERY ONE.

This thread was not about abortion or guns... This was about exposing the hypocrites. Jimmy you lead the pack.

Just so you know Jimmy baby, a little education...Our Founding Fathers always intended... That the government would never become MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PEOPLE THAT THE GOVERNMENT... SERVED!!!!

Sorry if that is such a difficult concept to understand.

Now if you read the other thread I started... You might start to understand the the evil things that can happen. It actually would take some of of your research to understand that FREE MEN IN FINLAND... Stood up to tyranny... They overcame, as good always will.

So when you coming over for a BBQ?

If anyone is for terminating the life of a child, even when it is an unwanted child for ANY reason, they are for murder under mitigating circumstances. To me it's rather rather like saying I don't believe in murder except on sunny days. It is what it is, and the child is still an innocent child. I have heard that some have chosen not to murder in the case of rape or whatever and the child has become a productive member of society in good standing.


It is not societies place to assist in the act of murder in any manner. Even though obama, reed, polosi, schumer, frank, bloomberg and a good many others are a substantial argument for abortion.

If anyone is for terminating the life of a child, even when it is an unwanted child for ANY reason, they are for murder under mitigating circumstances. To me it's rather rather like saying I don't believe in murder except on sunny days. It is what it is, and the child is still an innocent child. I have heard that some have chosen not to murder in the case of rape or whatever and the child has become a productive member of society in good standing.


It is not societies place to assist in the act of murder in any manner. Even though obama, reed, polosi, schumer, frank, bloomberg and a good many others are a substantial argument for abortion.

Therein lies the illustration of the 'test' that this life is. When you think about it... we are each left to our own conscience and we are called upon to gauge and practice our true love for our God. Simply put, those who love, understand how precious all life is. Those who love less, tend to understand less, and so on...

There really is nothing tacit, straightforward and clear (as far as i know) about abortion in the christian doctrines. That being said, neither (you and I) nor the naysayers have any extraordinary leverage over each other, to resort to in this argument, other than the magnitude of our own consciences and love for God. You and I uphold life, more-so than the less-loving do. What does this say, to any outside observer? And who would take delight in the death of fetuses, pre-infants, or whatever one wishes to call these tiny lives.

There are hints and suggestions about abortion in the Bible, but the rest is up to us to deduce and act according to our own will and conscience. (I believe that's what really separates the wheat from the chaff in this issue).

Gentlemen, I am very tolerant of all the views expressed. I have my own about abortion and gun control,BUT...

This was not about either.

It was about exposing the absolute hypocrisy, that the liberal agenda is willing to impose. Jimmy has NO answers. and your personal views about abortion, though important... ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS EXPOSING the lying truth that is being circulated by people, posing as leaders, that only care about themselves.

DO YOU GUYS GET IT?

Gentlemen, I am very tolerant of all the views expressed. I have my own about abortion and gun control,BUT...

This was not about either.

It was about exposing the absolute hypocrisy, that the liberal agenda is willing to impose. Jimmy has NO answers. and your personal views about abortion, though important... ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS EXPOSING the lying truth that is being circulated by people, posing as leaders, that only care about themselves.

DO YOU GUYS GET IT?

I get it...Lets take it up a notch...

When stacked against a mountain of hypocracy, one eventually comes to realize that pointing it out does not make it any less 'bourgeois'...That is to say, the hypocracy and idiocracy of the common thinker, is a normal element of our daily routine and life . With that said, the only real strategy to combat it is to act responsible for ourselves, and to make damn sure that we teach our kids what we hold strong and true... There is no law in humanity, that says all people have to act, teach or learn the same.

Its a suckers game out there bro... I can't be bothered with all the Jimmy Dangers of the world. They are everywhere and there is no stopping their proliferation LOL... SO the next best thing is to proliferate ourselves and stand by what we believe in...

I'm not a hypocrite. I never make promises I cannot keep, I never tout one thing and blow bullshit out the other cheek. I never back-stroke on people. And I support the legal right to own guns, and common sense tells me that automatics need tight controls. I dont believe in abortion, and would never condone it... In the case of rapes and dying mothers, well what the f**k would we have, then? So once again...COMMON SENSE is the right answer to most of this bullshit.

Do you agree?

Gentlemen, I am very tolerant of all the views expressed. I have my own about abortion and gun control,BUT...

This was not about either.

It was about exposing the absolute hypocrisy, that the liberal agenda is willing to impose. Jimmy has NO answers. and your personal views about abortion, though important... ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS EXPOSING the lying truth that is being circulated by people, posing as leaders, that only care about themselves.

DO YOU GUYS GET IT?

I get it...Lets take it up a notch...

When stacked against a mountain of hypocracy, one eventually comes to realize that pointing it out does not make it any less 'bourgeois'...That is to say, the hypocracy and idiocracy of the common thinker, is a normal element of our daily routine and life . With that said, the only real strategy to combat it is to act responsible for ourselves, and to make damn sure that we teach our kids what we hold strong and true... There is no law in humanity, that says all people have to act, teach or learn the same.

Its a suckers game out there bro... I can't be bothered with all the Jimmy Dangers of the world. They are everywhere and there is no stopping their proliferation LOL... SO the next best thing is to proliferate ourselves and stand by what we believe in...

I'm not a hypocrite. I never make promises I cannot keep, I never tout one thing and blow bullshit out the other cheek. I never back-stroke on people. And I support the legal right to own guns, and common sense tells me that automatics need tight controls. I dont believe in abortion, and would never condone it... In the case of rapes and dying mothers, well what the f**k would we have, then? So once again...COMMON SENSE is the right answer to most of this bullshit.

Do you agree?

AAAAHHHH... You almost passed... BUT you are still going to have to pry my cold dead hands of my nukes. As far as automatics, no one should have any more fire power than the people. Next they will outlaw my nukes. See the point?

Dawg... forgive me, I love who you are, your music, and your general concern for your fellow man.............

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!!!!!!!

Gentlemen, I am very tolerant of all the views expressed. I have my own about abortion and gun control,BUT...

This was not about either.

It was about exposing the absolute hypocrisy, that the liberal agenda is willing to impose. Jimmy has NO answers. and your personal views about abortion, though important... ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS EXPOSING the lying truth that is being circulated by people, posing as leaders, that only care about themselves.

DO YOU GUYS GET IT?

WELL exxxxcccccuuuuuusssssssee us. We were under the distinct impression that this as well as all other Bandmix threads are up for mandatory hijack. At least that's the way it has always been.

...You and I uphold life, more-so than the less-loving do. What does this say, to any outside observer? And who would take delight in the death of fetuses, pre-infants, or whatever one wishes to call these tiny lives.

grant, i have to ask....do you really think ANYONE takes "delight" from abortions?

as much as you dislike obama, bloomberg, pelosi, et. al....as much as you might look down upon those who choose to have an abortion....do you really believe they or the mothers that make this tough decision (and i'd bet my last dollar that for MOST...not ALL...but MOST, it IS a tough decision not easily arrived at)...

do you believe they take...."delight" in it? or the drs? or the nurses?

It was about exposing the absolute hypocrisy, that the liberal agenda is willing to impose.

DO YOU GUYS GET IT?

glen...i think YOU'RE the one who doesn't get it or see the irony in your own contradicting arguments.

on the one hand you rail against abortion and want it illegal.

on the other you rail against gov't telling us what we can and can't do.

i suppose you CAN have it both ways....as long as you recognize that YOU are being the hypocrite if that's the path you walk.

so, answer a simple question, glen. it's a yes or no question (feel free to elaborate if you wish...but any sidestepping of the actually question on your part WILL be clearly obvious and result in points off...haha)

abortion.....should it be made illiegal? yes? no?

...You and I uphold life, more-so than the less-loving do. What does this say, to any outside observer? And who would take delight in the death of fetuses, pre-infants, or whatever one wishes to call these tiny lives.

grant, i have to ask....do you really think ANYONE takes "delight" from abortions?

as much as you dislike obama, bloomberg, pelosi, et. al....as much as you might look down upon those who choose to have an abortion....do you really believe they or the mothers that make this tough decision (and i'd bet my last dollar that for MOST...not ALL...but MOST, it IS a tough decision not easily arrived at)...

do you believe they take...."delight" in it? or the drs? or the nurses?

There are many on the order of Josef Rudolf Mengele that do enjoy it, you know that as well as I do, for there have been some reports of them although hurriedly hushed in the media.. No one is thrust into the world of abortion, they choose to enter that practice.


Those with wisdom understand that God is the God of the born and the unborn, He is God both of the living and the dead.


Isa 44:2 The Lord who made you, forming you in your mother's body, the Lord, your helper, says, Have no fear, O Jacob my servant, and you, Jeshurun, whom I have taken for myself.

Jer 1:5 I knew you before I formed you in the belly; and before you came out of the womb, I consecrated you. I appointed you a prophet to the nations.

Hos 12:3 (LITV) He took his brother by the heel in the womb, and by his strength he contended with God.

It was not my nature to accept or reject abortion, For those who do not believe in a God, there is no understanding of this, for those who believe in God, the choice is clear.

mengele...sure. yeah.

diff being...you look around at people and you see mengele more often than i do. a lot more.

and apparently, that's your take and view of things and people....even WITH all your religious conviction, and bible quotes.

thankfully (as I see it) most people are NOT mengele.

but, that's just me.. the lil' ol' braindead and blind to reality lib you'd write me off as.

For those who do not believe in a God, there is no understanding of this, for those who believe in God, the choice is clear.

so...you now speak for ALL who believe in god?

kinda arrogant i think. also insulting to those who DO believe in god and have a different view on the subject than your's.

yeah, right...i know.....if they were TRUE believers....and IF they FOLLOWED his word and wishes...yeah, yeah, yeah.

(cue the next round of bible quotes)

It was about exposing the absolute hypocrisy, that the liberal agenda is willing to impose.

DO YOU GUYS GET IT?

glen...i think YOU'RE the one who doesn't get it or see the irony in your own contradicting arguments.

on the one hand you rail against abortion and want it illegal.

on the other you rail against gov't telling us what we can and can't do.

i suppose you CAN have it both ways....as long as you recognize that YOU are being the hypocrite if that's the path you walk.

so, answer a simple question, glen. it's a yes or no question (feel free to elaborate if you wish...but any sidestepping of the actually question on your part WILL be clearly obvious and result in points off...haha)

abortion.....should it be made illiegal? yes? no?

Without reservation absolutely NOT! Not one thing in any of my posts stated anything about me "RAILING AGAINST ABORTION" Prove it. (don't write it and throw it into one of my quotes) I know that trick.
That would go against one of the great gifts granted by a higher authority, the freedom of choice. That is were the word tolerance comes in. I am not willing or desire to enforce my personal views on you, or any one else, until THEY desire to enforce their personal views on others, or me.

That's were GUN CONTROL comes in... Guns in America are not for personal protection, home protection, or any other sort of personal protection you can think of. I am really not concerned with the biggest badass MO FO that could come along and kill me. I don't live my life in fear... Take my money if you need it that much. It's only money. Kill me... big deal,I'M DEAD. No concern.


All these politicians understand one thing... They will never have complete domination over a population that is armed and protective of a constitution that was written by some very brilliant men. It is the framework of the greatest government that allowed RESPONSIBLE FREE MEN TO COEXIST...
Ever in the history of mankind!

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but, that's just me.. the lil' ol' braindead and blind to reality lib you'd write me off as.[/quote]


Come on Mark it's bad enough when you start beating up other people...

Now you are beating your self up????


( that's a little trick I learned from you )

abortion.....should it be made illiegal? yes? no?

Without reservation absolutely NOT! Not one thing in any of my posts stated anything about me "RAILING AGAINST ABORTION" Prove it.

i can't because if you say you've NEVER stated that....i believe you. i mistakenly thought you had expressed that opinion and that's on me. my mistake. my bad. i apologize for getting that wrong.

(don't write it and throw it into one of my quotes) I know that trick.

not my style, glen. i wouldn't do that.

That would go against one of the great gifts granted by a higher authority, the freedom of choice. That is were the word tolerance comes in. I am not willing or desire to enforce my personal views on you, or any one else, until THEY desire to enforce their personal views on others, or me.

fair enough. and there is NOTHING i consider hypocritical in your stance there.

That's were GUN CONTROL comes in... Guns in America are not for personal protection, home protection, or any other sort of personal protection you can think of. I am really not concerned with the biggest badass MO FO that could come along and kill me. I don't live my life in fear... Take my money if you need it that much. It's only money. Kill me... big deal,I'M DEAD. No concern.


All these politicians understand one thing... They will never have complete domination over a population that is armed and protective of a constitution that was written by some very brilliant men. It is the framework of the greatest government that allowed RESPONSIBLE FREE MEN TO COEXIST...
Ever in the history of mankind!

yeah, where you and i differ is our view about politicians wanting domination, and control....only wanting to impose THEIR views and THEIR will on us so they can rob us of our freedoms.

are there some like that? sure. but it seems like you see those types as the rule whereas i see them as the exception.