General Music Chat

For all you Mozart Lovers out there!!!

I really love my dog. I'd like to marry my dog since I love him so much.

good to know you think of of gays and dogs as being one and the same. most enlightened.

Generally I wouldn't address such ignorance as yours, however I did not give my opinion on gays. I simply gave Gods opinion.

Lev 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Rom 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.



Just for the record, my dog isn't perverted. Although that was indeed first expressed through the minds of degenerates who unintentionally revealed the basic nature of their intellect through their posts. But then their thoughts always betray them eventually.

I try to stay away from these religious-based fights, but what makes you think that a bunch of stuff written by boy-banging priests and monks centuries ago has any relevance on what a true 'higher power' deems is 'right'?

Generally I wouldn't address such ignorance as yours,

and still more bullshit from you. "addressing"???...that's ALL you do.

sharing YOUR ignorant views and belittling those who don't cotton to your hateful, bigoted, and myopic thinking.

for someone who thinks they KNOW god's opinion.....you addressing anyone's "ignorance" is a side splitting hoot.

however I did not give my opinion on gays. I simply gave Gods opinion.

BS. of course you did....you equated marrying another man to you marrying your dog. why do i even bother...you believe god dictated his OPINIONS to the humans who wrote the bible!

quote as much scripture as you please...it proves nothing about god or his opinions. the bible was written by men who also thought it was ok to lay w young girls and thought slavery was ok.

were those too god's opinions? so, does "god" still believe that?

good grief......get a reality check. and please think twice before you embarrass yourself further by commenting on ANYONE else's intelligence. there's only so much irony and hypocrisy folks can stand....even on bandmix.

Just for the record, my dog isn't perverted. Although that was indeed first expressed through the minds of degenerates who unintentionally revealed the basic nature of their intellect through their posts.

and what do you think YOUR posts reveal???? good grief.

But then their thoughts always betray them eventually.

"betrayal"? you obviously have never looked in a mirror have you?

just remember....nobody likes a hater.

social orders are built on the family, the progressive nuclear family, not on sodomites undertaking psychological experiments on surplus and abandoned children.
homosexual men are already in a state of maturity malfunction.
so they are unlikely to undertake parenting to any degree worth discussing.
homosexuality is a genetic death sentence.
so a healthy minds, as a rule do not consider homosexual permanence.

social order as a rule ignore groups of women in caretaking roles.
birds, cats, orphans what have you.

get a group of sodomites together under the auspicious of training their replacements,
and you will have violent civil action.

You can file this information back in your ass, where you pulled it from.

BTW, why did you delete your profile image?
Anything is better than a blank silhouette.

I actually knew a couple who were gay and they raised a daughter. For all intents and purposes , she grew up to be okay... Got married (heterosexual) and has kids.

All Jokes and cut-downs to the side .. If we, as human beings are to be honest; Its the "behaviors , driven by an unfamiliar (To us individually) orientation, which many cannot reconcile. Ultra left wing liberals will NEVER accept the scientific theory that homosexuality is an "abnormalcy" in a human make up and in the social bubble. Albeit, no one cant argue JC's point that gaydom is a genetic death sentence.

On the other hand, Ultra-Rights will never accept that gaydom is NOT about immorality. They cant understand the science behind this phenomenon. Most gay people will tell you its not a moral 'choice' of theirs.

The facts are this: Children are actually as safe, if not safer ...in the hands of a gay couple as they are with a straight couples. But, being Straight (or living like it) tends to provide wicked people a license of social freedoms to hide behind.
Being gay is the last impression a straight/pedophile wants for an image, (because of the vigilance of scrutiny against gay people in our society)
Kids are no less safe or morally compromised for having had gay parents, than they are for having had murderers for parents. In fact , ..kids are much safer with the gay parents in that set of choices.

facts?

what gay culture are you basing this fact on?
what so called gay society has existed for any time at all
where was this exclusive info gathered from
this is of course total crap,
made up out of a few legends that are passed around college dorms.

THere is plenty of literature on this, JC. Plus the anecdotal evidence that I am declaring (I knew a gay Couple and the facts are... their child turned out just fine.).
You didn't ask me what 'Murder culture' I was referenceing? I'll tell you anyway. Here it is...are you ready? Straight American Citizens. We are collectively the biggest group of murderers (and killers) next to Europe, Russia and the mIddle east. To put it another way...it sucks right now to be a deer in America, or a black teenager near a police precinct. I wont even go into the plethora of hate crimes that this country is riddled with... So what gay couple wants to draw negative attention to itself, knowing the hatred they have to face...They are inclined to behave twice as studious as straights... Same can be said for many other hard working minorities.

Sorry the notions here dont suit your biased perception..but they is the facts , whether we like it or not.

in the days before the internet,
people used to write books,
books were peer reviewed for accuracy, and standards of empirical data had benchmarks and constants.
today anyone can say anything and it is accepted as fact.
jot it down on wikipedia and boom ready made facts.
there is no empirical data on homosexual male couples raising children.

you're whole premise is based on the condition that what used to be very strict laws surrounding family life are eliminated or no longer enforced.
and the perception that the fag gym teacher from the public school system has more power inside your household than you do living there as a father or mother.



you read an article?
whats an article?

I saw two guys kissing=they are a nuclear family.

they seem nicer than daddy was to me, = they are better parents.

(never mind those 10 yrs they spent in the public toilet stall having indiscriminate sex with anyone who would oblige)

you are a victim of conditioning
conditioning by values clarification.

My conditioning comes from Christ, who explicitly tells me that its a bad idea to judge other people for whatever affliction they have.
According you , gays make bad parents... so I guess alchoholics do too? There's more literature about abusive alchoholic parents than there is about abusive gay parents. That oughtta tell you something. Look up AL ANON and read trough all the bullshit that kids go through with their alchoholic dads... Having lived with an alchoholic parent my self, i'll take a toxin free gay person who is civil, kind and humane any f**k day of the week. Hows that for values clarification?

Pardon me for not reading the entire thread before wading in.

I'm against gay marriage because it cheapens what marriage is supposed to be. I'm not anti-anyone by being pro-family.

Is that view discriminatory? Yes, you betcha!

When I married my wife I discriminated against all other women (all people for that matter). Our exclusive relationship has the potential of creating the best environment for raising children and for producing more people who can then create more families. It's the foundational building block of any society. To change that order is to destroy society.

I find it really odd that homosexuals are trying to force themselves into an institution that most heterosexuals are abandoning today. Divorce rates have never been higher in the USA, and now more than half of children are being born outside of a committed family...and that's wreaking havoc on our society. Just look at the south side of Chicago for proof.

To further confuse this issue will be the last nail in our coffin, as it has historically been everywhere it was tried.

But it seems obvious to me that gay marriage isn't about love and commitment as much as it is about economic advantages of married couples being extended to people who simply live together in some kind of group setting.



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I'm against gay marriage because it cheapens what marriage is supposed to be. I'm not anti-anyone by being pro-family.

well...consider for a moment that "supposed to be" might be in the eyes of the beholder. same for being "pro family". i've known and seen gay parents do a fine job raising a "family". as grant pointed out...there are far worse things that can be detrimental to a "family"...an alcoholic parent. an absent dad (or mom). an abusive (or neglectful parent). etc.

Is that view discriminatory? Yes, you betcha!

When I married my wife I discriminated against all other women (all people for that matter).

yeah, that argument has it's flaws, ted. for instance...you might have been discriminating against other women... but you didn't discriminate against me or anyone else in OUR choice of who we chose to marry.

Our exclusive relationship has the potential of creating the best environment for raising children and for producing more people who can then create more families. It's the foundational building block of any society. To change that order is to destroy society.

it only destroys society if heterosexuality is banned and outlawed. is anyone really worried that's a likely outcome? really?

that justification for prohibiting gays from being married is wonky!

so, what about a straight couple who decides they don't want children???? are they a threat and in danger of "destroying society"? NO MARRIAGE FOR YOU! what about cpls in their 50's getting married? they won't be procreating either.
NO MARRIAGE FOR YOU! i know you don't see THAT as a threat to society.

I find it really odd that homosexuals are trying to force themselves into an institution that most heterosexuals are abandoning today. Divorce rates have never been higher in the USA, and now more than half of children are being born outside of a committed family...and that's wreaking havoc on our society. Just look at the south side of Chicago for proof.

oh, there's probably a long list of reasons for the problems in chicago (and elsewhere)...i'd venture to say economics is a much larger factor.

as for why gays would want to marry....c'mon, for EXACTLY the same reasons straight people do. for love. to show they're committed to one another. to write it all off as they're only doing it for the medical benefits, and to avoid probate and estate taxes is to see them as less than you and i. people.

To further confuse this issue will be the last nail in our coffin, as it has historically been everywhere it was tried.

gay marriage...the LAST nail???? c'mon, anyone of us can come up w a list of at least ten things that'd follow THAT nail to be the last for us!

But it seems obvious to me that gay marriage isn't about love and commitment as much as it is about economic advantages of married couples being extended to people who simply live together in some kind of group setting.

ted, i have to ask. have you known any gay couples that have been together for awhile? cos' i'm callin' bullshit on that premise. the gay cpls i know and have known are together first and foremost because they're in love and have made the commitment to spend the rest of their lives w their partners. same as you and your wife. same as me and mine.

being free of religious constraints that "dictate" i feel otherwise.....i see gay marriage as a total non problem. two adult people want to be together...it's none of my business whether they're the same gender. or different races. or deaf.

yeah....it used to be against the law for deaf to marry because it was a concern they would produce more deaf! somehow society has survived that. i think it can survive gays marrying as well.

there's so, so many other things seriously wrong these days that's it's amazing to me that intelligent people can spend so much time agonizing over anything like this.

well that's a lot of discussion,

but in the final analysis;
I believe that if you can convince a person or persons that an anus is a vagina,
then I suppose you can convince them of just about anything.

Man did not create Marriage therefor our definition of it is universally and eternally irrelevant.

WOW! This is still a major issue against all insanity.

Mark... Go back and read your posts. Once again you have reverted to pure name calling as a "METHOD" to disrupt an honest argument and point of view. You went after Slacker, Dog and Ted. I didn't write this... YOU DID!

What? Are you a homosexual?

I WOULD NEVER HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU!!!!

I believe you should stop attacking people in the way you are good at.

I thought we had reached some sort of detente... I guess you just wish to go on cursing out people that speak their thoughts.

That is shallow. Now I feel sorry for you. I am also wise enough to realize the truth.

Just so people understand... Laws are man made. The authority derived from the government is derived from the righteousness of the PEOPLE!!!

It seems the righteousness of the people is fading... YOU DON'T DESERVE TO USE THE WORD FREEDOM EVER AGAIN. TOLERANCE IS THE MISSING WORD!

Just turn it over to the government... My Lord I don't want to be around... When they start to shoot gays because they don't fit into the "greater plan"

YEAH RIGHT!

I'm pretty sure Slacker was just joking about marrying his dog.. but I see what he was aiming at.he was making an issue regarding BEASTIALITY and homo sex is not exactly the same thing, so his addressing is generally not a valid argument ..two different things, one a crime and the other is legal in most states..don't hang out at the city park's restroom and you will be not arrested for it, keep it in your home away from innocent children.... pretty sure homosexuality has been with us for thousands of years, and will not be going away soon unless we let the moral majority have their way.. tribes in Africa go so far as to kill gays thinking it is of the devil..

I don't see what the big deal is about.
It is really simple.
A gay couple should be... if they are... Sanctioned by rule of authority, allowed the same benefits of law as a "MARRIED" couple.

How ever... They MUST BE VERY CAREFUL of attacking a marriage sanctioned by GOD.

IF you are a gay, married, couple... I am not against you,nor for you.

I am against your continued attacks against my "MARRIAGE" and my "RELIGIOUS BELIEFS"

Get over it...

I don't see what the big deal is about.
It is really simple.
A gay couple should be... if they are... Sanctioned by rule of authority, allowed the same benefits of law as a "MARRIED" couple.

How ever... They MUST BE VERY CAREFUL of attacking a marriage sanctioned by GOD.

IF you are a gay, married, couple... I am not against you,nor for you.

I am against your continued attacks against my "MARRIAGE" and my "RELIGIOUS BELIEFS"

Get over it...

Who is attacking your marriage?