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#209793 by PaperDog
Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:15 pm
Jahva wrote:Nice... Let see it... post some pics. Looks like plenty of on-line info to get yourself started.
http://www.buckinghammusic.com/sitar/sittut/btut.html


Will Post this weekend...( I Promise!) Right now I'm all wired up . Tonight is my SW contest... and preparing... its like herding a bunch of cats

#209828 by Starfish Scott
Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:32 pm
Peg has a leg with a kickstand and herds cats for a living. lol

#209834 by J-HALEY
Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:52 pm
Starfish Scott wrote:Peg has a leg with a kickstand and herds cats for a living. lol

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#209992 by PaperDog
Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:36 am
Jahva wrote:So PD did you get your new gear yet? :roll:


On my Profile... I posted a pic

#209999 by JCP61
Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:43 am
wow
crazy 8)
you oftimes use the word dissonance,
I have a feeling your going to find out what that word actually means.
:)

#210028 by PaperDog
Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:49 pm
JCP61 wrote:wow
crazy 8)
you oftimes use the word dissonance,
I have a feeling your going to find out what that word actually means.
:)


Tell Me about it... This instrument is amazing... I'm still trying to figure out how to tune this... What's really interesting is how that eerie resonance we associate to the Sitar relies heavily on the entire bank of strings to be properly tuned, in the correct register of their respective scales... If they are not proper, the effects are diminished.

Also finding out that there are apposing methods of scales, depending on what religion you are...HA HA! There are some pragmatics as well.. For example: Our Open E tuning is too slack for sitar open keys... Sitars are generally tuned , either in C# or D.
I'm still not sure how string order is defined... (and I'm only talking about the main strings.)

I will figure this bad boy out...only a matter of time...

#210033 by Mike Nobody
Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:34 pm
PaperDog wrote:
JCP61 wrote:wow
crazy 8)
you oftimes use the word dissonance,
I have a feeling your going to find out what that word actually means.
:)


Tell Me about it... This instrument is amazing... I'm still trying to figure out how to tune this... What's really interesting is how that eerie resonance we associate to the Sitar relies heavily on the entire bank of strings to be properly tuned, in the correct register of their respective scales... If they are not proper, the effects are diminished.

Also finding out that there are apposing methods of scales, depending on what religion you are...HA HA! There are some pragmatics as well.. For example: Our Open E tuning is too slack for sitar open keys... Sitars are generally tuned , either in C# or D.
I'm still not sure how string order is defined... (and I'm only talking about the main strings.)

I will figure this bad boy out...only a matter of time...


I heard that they got fed up trying to teach Westerners how to properly tune sitars in the traditional style.
So, they use Western notation now. :lol:

#210037 by GuitarMikeB
Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:24 pm
Nice looking instrument! Is that a pickup on it?

#210050 by VinnyViolin
Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:16 pm
Beautiful sitar!

Such a lesson in dissonance is just as much a lesson in harmony.

@GuitarMikeB: Those things that look like pickups are the 2 bridges, large one for the main strings, the small one for the tarab strings (resonant strings)

Tarab is Arabic for musical ecstasy.

#210051 by DainNobody
Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:27 pm
I think the lead solo on "Do It Again" Steely Dan was an electric sitar..

#210052 by Jahva
Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:30 pm
Very cool!
Don'tcha love getting new gear!
I look forward to hearing what you can do with it... when the time comes. 8)

#210057 by VinnyViolin
Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:13 am
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I think the lead solo on "Do It Again" Steely Dan was an electric sitar..

Yes! That's Denny Dias playing a Coral Electric Sitar ... which is strung like a regular 6 string guitar but has a sitar type bridge and some tarab strings. More of an elaborate sound effect for guitar than a sitar.

A sitar is set-up, strung and played differently than a guitar, designed especially for a melodic style of music that is centered around a drone tone.

The sitar also features movable frets, and that opens up a whole other dimension ... just intonation compared to equal temperament.

#210071 by PaperDog
Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:34 am
VinnyViolin wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I think the lead solo on "Do It Again" Steely Dan was an electric sitar..

Yes! That's Denny Dias playing a Coral Electric Sitar ... which is strung like a regular 6 string guitar but has a sitar type bridge and some tarab strings. More of an elaborate sound effect for guitar than a sitar.

A sitar is set-up, strung and played differently than a guitar, designed especially for a melodic style of music that is centered around a drone tone.

The sitar also features movable frets, and that opens up a whole other dimension ... just intonation compared to equal temperament.


Yes, Each fret is adjustable.... (ANd here I thought my Gretch's floating bridge was a step out of conventional boxes) ... Each fret is positioned and then tied down with Gold colored thread. Its daunting... I have no idea how I would repair it if one of them came off... This sitar has 7 main strings and 13 "sympathetic" strings. I'm still not clear on the scale. I will savor the moments of examining, learning and mastering these simple tasks... and when I get that done right, I already have some musical ideas... :)

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