General Music Chat

REPEAT AFTER ME:

By the time a Prez election ensues...is TOO LATE!.

You have to vote locally for every spot that opens to vote. You have to inform yourselves and dig deep to sort out who the real winners are from the losers in your neighborhoods. Hit every bar, every chamber of commerce dinner, every town hall meeting, every high school reunion (and take down the guys that became lawyers), every sale at Macy's...(cause that's where those lawyers shop)

You have to start NOW if your gonna make it by 2016

So remember! Vote for ME!

That is actually a statement of brilliance Dawg. Did you actually attend one of my meetings?????

I might have glenny..But I cant remember... (Pleeze tell me I wasnt singing in the corner, and wearing a lampshade)

The so-called "war on poverty" began with LBJ's Great Society initiative.


Typically liberal utopian goals that were not really thought out very well, and instead of helping eleviate poverty it made the lower economic classes slaves to government dependance; while at the same time almost erasing a prosperous middle class by taking their money to pay for it.

I know it sounds good and noble on the surface (like all liberal programs)...but the results are anything but.

The so-called "war on poverty" began with LBJ's Great Society initiative.


Typically liberal utopian goals that were not really thought out very well, and instead of helping eleviate poverty it made the lower economic classes slaves to government dependance; while at the same time almost erasing a prosperous middle class by taking their money to pay for it.

I know it sounds good and noble on the surface (like all liberal programs)...but the results are anything but.

Thank you Yod. Unfortunately we have raised 2 generations that believe theft in the name of fairness is O.K. The WW2 vets that returned with nothing except a work ethic and understanding of the opportunity to build a great nation from hard work... I lost 4 of them this year... Old age... What AMAZING MEN.

I look around and all I see are wimps.

Now just ask any of these folks what they think it takes to do... What you do. You aint no wimp.

that girl looks like herman munster

She does... Doesn't she?

lilly.... lilly!

The War on Poverty bankrupted this country. When BJ Clinton left office the country had 5 Trillion in dept. That was exactly the cost of the War on Poverty.

Millions had been impoverished. An artificial middle class was created, which appeased enough minorities that it was considered a good thing. It was not. That artificial middle class existed solely to distribute our money (and the fools that buy our bonds) to the 'poor.'

Black families went from being the poster children for family values with a very low rate of illegitimate births to pushing 70 percent - that's no dads, no future; that's statistically a nightmare.

Whites are nearly caught up so I guess we're equal at last. Hooray.

The debt is much more now. The education system has rotted and there are very few honest public officials. Wars all over the place. Fully half the available workforce on public assistance. We're in sort of a mess now eh?

Maybe the government can help? You know, those folks that Mike Nobody detests but to whom he wishes to send more of my money and more power.

Talbot

The War on Poverty bankrupted this country. When BJ Clinton left office the country had 5 Trillion in dept. That was exactly the cost of the War on Poverty.

Millions had been impoverished. An artificial middle class was created, which appeased enough minorities that it was considered a good thing. It was not. That artificial middle class existed solely to distribute our money (and the fools that buy our bonds) to the 'poor.'

Black families went from being the poster children for family values with a very low rate of illegitimate births to pushing 70 percent - that's no dads, no future; that's statistically a nightmare.

Whites are nearly caught up so I guess we're equal at last. Hooray.



The debt is much more now. The education system has rotted and there are very few honest public officials. Wars all over the place. Fully half the available workforce on public assistance. We're in sort of a mess now eh?

Maybe the government can help? You know, those folks that Mike Nobody detests but to whom he wishes to send more of my money and more power.

Talbot

Funny, Clinton left us a surplus while your boy G.W. Bush allowed 9-11 to happen, diverted America's attention to the War on Terror while his people deregulated Banks and stole the surplus .... Seems like Conservatives have the memory span of an Alzheimer patient who's a chronic PCP smoker.
Conservatives have Stockholm Syndrome . the denial / defense mechanism of a drug addict/ alcoholic and Judas / Panchus Pilot / Peter Syndrome .... they betrayed America ( by backing G.W. and being TEA party idiots), Crucified America and deny it to this day... that they and their kind ruined America. Bin Laden and Al Qaeda wished they could have done the damage on America like 8 years of G.W Bush and 4 years of TEA party betrayal .... sorry Neocon Zombies ... the roster crowed twice ...in 2008 and 2012 !!!!

..... and now the GOP is dead , because the TEA party killed it. When you go too far Right, you're going to be wearing your ass as a hat. America has spoken out loud in 2008 and 2012. Sorry, but America can not afford to give Conservatives those old reassuring lies like in the days of Reagan .... America is no longer nieve nor nostalgic enough to vote Republican .... America is too well informed

PURE MEDIA BUULSHIT!

And I Am not a FAN.

If you want to just come out here and pull your 6 gun AJ... you really should be prepared to back it up.

Most of the folks posting here are some really smart people... EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE.

Haven't seen you around in a while... The rules haven't changed... As difficult as it is we have many really GREAT musicians contributing. Tempers flare, passions show, BUT...

Even I am trying to keep it civil. That means... no personal attacks. Stupid me.

Actually I can't believe the POTUS would allow 9-11 to HAPPEN. It was the POTUS Bush that went before congress (controlled by the democrats) 4 times, asking them not to pass the bill that would allow non qualified people to buy a home.

Notice, I am not attacking you personally... Only refuting your point of view.

The so-called "war on poverty" began with LBJ's Great Society initiative.


Typically liberal utopian goals that were not really thought out very well, and instead of helping eleviate poverty it made the lower economic classes slaves to government dependance; while at the same time almost erasing a prosperous middle class by taking their money to pay for it.

I know it sounds good and noble on the surface (like all liberal programs)...but the results are anything but.

Did you know that we had a war on hunger that started in the 60's, and by 1979, we had NO HUNGER in the USA? Sure, we still had some poverty, but the facts clearly dictated that social safety net programs were working, and that most people who used/needed them, eventually returned to work and resumed being productive members of society. It was estimated that only 1-2% of those on welfare were actually abusing the system and less than 5% stayed on it long-term.

So then Raygun comes along and starts dismantling the system.. poverty starts to rise (and has ever since), and now people who once had the support to rise from personal disasters and tragedies were then left to their own devices, and ultimately a huge margin on them were unable to overcome, and stayed poor and in poverty.

Our education system, also dismantled, had a lot to do with it as well. We no longer produce the best and brightest; in fact, we are near the bottom on education among 1st world countries.

Imgine you approach two nations-

Nation 1 - everyone who can work, does, to their own personal potential and capacity. Everything is provided by the collective society. Some embark on extra investments and gain or lose based on their choices, but never go starving or without necessities. The streets are clean, education is available to all, and top notch. Crime is low, almost non-existent, and usually amounts to crimes of hate or passion, rather than theft and greed. Healthcare is equally provided to all, as the collective work of all pays the cost (and there is no profit from sickness) The "society" is healthy and happy.

Nation 2 - every man for himself. There's a few gated communities of extreme wealth, where lavish lifestyles are the norm. Limos, $10M dollar weddings, and back-door deals of greed are the standard. About 2% of the population is so rich, nobody in their family will ever have want for generations, if ever. The other 98% of the society is a cess-pool. Poor, hungry, criminals, who have to resort to stealing, pimping, drug dealing, and whatever else- just to put food on the table. Working for the wealthy doesn't pay enough to live. The areas outside of the gated communities are run-down and in some neighborhoods appear like war-zones. Public unrest, riots, and brutal responses from the government/police are normal. The society is split into haves and have-nots.

You are looking at those two societies- and you must make a decision to move into one of them-

Only a sociopath would move into Nation #2. Or a 1%'er.

America is becoming #2.

The War on Poverty bankrupted this country. When BJ Clinton left office the country had 5 Trillion in dept. That was exactly the cost of the War on Poverty.

Millions had been impoverished. An artificial middle class was created, which appeased enough minorities that it was considered a good thing. It was not. That artificial middle class existed solely to distribute our money (and the fools that buy our bonds) to the 'poor.'

Black families went from being the poster children for family values with a very low rate of illegitimate births to pushing 70 percent - that's no dads, no future; that's statistically a nightmare.

Whites are nearly caught up so I guess we're equal at last. Hooray.



The debt is much more now. The education system has rotted and there are very few honest public officials. Wars all over the place. Fully half the available workforce on public assistance. We're in sort of a mess now eh?

Maybe the government can help? You know, those folks that Mike Nobody detests but to whom he wishes to send more of my money and more power.

Talbot

Funny, Clinton left us a surplus while your boy G.W. Bush allowed 9-11 to happen, diverted America's attention to the War on Terror while his people deregulated Banks and stole the surplus .... Seems like Conservatives have the memory span of an Alzheimer patient who's a chronic PCP smoker.
Conservatives have Stockholm Syndrome . the denial / defense mechanism of a drug addict/ alcoholic and Judas / Panchus Pilot / Peter Syndrome .... they betrayed America ( by backing G.W. and being TEA party idiots), Crucified America and deny it to this day... that they and their kind ruined America. Bin Laden and Al Qaeda wished they could have done the damage on America like 8 years of G.W Bush and 4 years of TEA party betrayal .... sorry Neocon Zombies ... the roster crowed twice ...in 2008 and 2012 !!!!

I left California years ago... Was recently checking the tires of my old car, when I noticed there was still some sh*t in the treads...from when Gray Davis (Democrat) was selling out the state, and Arnold (Re -Democrat) was going politico. Last I checked , the state of CA was buried deeper in a larger mound of that same old sh*t. Thus it would seem ...that it's blocking the perception that swims around there, as an 'opinion'

How are things in Fresno...land of the good-ol-boys club? CA is the only state in the union where it's wrong to smoke a cigar in the bars but its okay to suck a dick in Disneyland? Hows that working out for you guys?
And please, no excuses on a response. You have all the time in the world with that huge unemployment thang that your non-right wing, non conservative, non GOP influenced leadership has caused.
Hows that that traffic on the freeway...with Everybody racing to get 'nowhere"

Sorry dude, I just think if your gonna bust some chops here on the cons, you should be taking a good look at the stage you sing your song from...just sayin

The Clinton surplus? That's a good joke. Because much of his proposed legislation was voted down he had a couple years we didn't actually increase the deficit. It remained at 5 Trillion - it took Bush II and Obama to really jack it up.

But don't kid yourself - Clinton ran a huge debt and was just as big a murderer as the rest of them.

As to Tea Party? The fact that we are sick of being ripped off for taxes and having the law of the land ignored is hardly 'far right.' Take a chill pill and try a little research - way back in the days of yore, there was a constitutional republic. It was to be governed by a constitution that while imperfect, at least limited government power to specific tasks spelled out very clearly.

People called democrats and republicans destroyed it, abandoned rule of law and robbed everyone blind. They get away with this because they have created an illusion that there is some difference between the two parties.

There is not, but people hold on to their fantasies while giving up their freedom and their money.

Sad times in the US of A.

Talbot

Relax everybody...Obamacare just got signed in today, I believe. America did good for him, as he got a business out of it to go with his vacations. Should we impeach the president and put our trust in Biden...Ohhh hell no! In the meantime we could only hope that America doesen't get too Mad Max looking after nearly four more years of tyranny from another arrogant jackass.