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#208069 by Kramerguy
Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:01 pm
Slacker G wrote: Society is not a collective, that is Marxist / Socialist/Communist terminology. We, as a society tend to separate, not collect. If that were not so then why do we have two parties in government with opposing views? And there are others that disagree with both.

Society is comprised of individuals. Individuals tend to gravitate to what their ideals are, not what some imaginary "collective" dictates. Stealing another mans wages IS a Marxist collective principle. You want help? You feel that government should become the sovereign. OK It is. So now you do not like it? This "sovereign or regime" claims that it wants to help the poor. But shouldn't you also be part of funding them? Then you should feel good. Don't you feel better having your finances taken from you so that you can participate in their Utopian dream state? They are making you part of the collective! :)

Your taxes are helping the ungodly establish their reign. You are financing the lazy, and the the reprobates of this society who feel that the wages of another mans hard work should belong to them. The government is the gun that holds them up and steals their wages. That is what you want. This people have rejected the living God, so now you are living under the ungodly who wish to take the place of God and adorn themselves with His attributes. These have thrown God out of the schools, they have thrown God out of the public squares, they have thrown God out of the institutions of "higher learning" they have thrown God out of our churches. They want God out of society altogether. And so it shall be. God gives us the government we want when we reject him. And now God is throwing us out of the America we once knew. And he is using complete morons to do it so that we shall soon understand that this is the hand of an angry God.

You should know by now that this is how the man/god operates. He takes your monies as well as other peoples money under the guise of being charitable, yet his charity does not help the poor, rather it enslaves them. And it punishes those who are barely making ends meet. This god/man wants to be your healer, he wants to be the designer of your morality, and he wants to be your savior. It is only going to get worse from this point. Lets have that collective society that you wish. We shall all be equal. We shall be hungry, we all shall be poor, we all shall own nothing. Not so? Then look at some of the communist socialist countries of this world. They are poor, they are hungry, and they are oppressed, for that is the way of the man/god.

God has taken the most stupid people on the planet and has given them rule over us in order to destroy America. We have thrown God out of America, and now God is taking America from us. The most stupid people on the planet are our rulers and they have been appointed to rule over us by the living God.


Your belief in GOD that if we embrace HIM, he will make everything right.

The problem is that you are wagering mankind's existence on that belief. That's the problem I have with GW, GMO's, safety, security, etc.. IF god doesn't exist, we have to face the unfortunate fact that HE can't fix OUR problems. We created these problems, not GOD. GOD ain't gonna fix them. It's up to us. Jesus was a socialist, btw.

#208086 by MikeTalbot
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:16 pm
Jesus was a socialist?!!! Not hardly. Remember that commandmant about 'do not steal?' That kills the socialist angle right there.

And don't hang around waiting for God to make things nice here in the not so good ole USA - not His job.

Talbot

#208089 by JCP61
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:22 pm
please indicate the writings that show Jesus advocating institutional collectivism.
or any type of social contract for that matter.

when you start thinking about God in the same way you think about your president,
you end up voting for Obama
with the obvious results.
:lol:

#208109 by Mike Nobody
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:54 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:Jesus was a socialist?!!! Not hardly. Remember that commandmant about 'do not steal?' That kills the socialist angle right there.

And don't hang around waiting for God to make things nice here in the not so good ole USA - not His job.

Talbot


No, he just gave away loaves & fishes, enraging the baking & fishing industries.
Holders of the baker's recipe and fish genome patents had Larsicus Ulrichicus shut him down for copyright infringement.

#208112 by Mike Nobody
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:55 pm
JCP61 wrote:please indicate the writings that show Jesus advocating institutional collectivism.
or any type of social contract for that matter.


Are you f*cking kidding me?
That is so asinine it doesn't deserve an answer.

#208117 by Starfish Scott
Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:01 pm
Jimmy, that joke about TIE FOOD was reaaaallllly good.

AS for "Jesus was a socialist", well that sounds like "Jerry Was a Race Car Driver" to me. LOL

(sorry Jesus, don't hurt me.. )(wincing)(it's just a joke)

My vote is for Jesus, he'll use divine force to clean up the budget..or destroy us all because we suck as intelligent life goes...he just hasn't decided yet.

Call back in 1000 years.
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#208120 by JCP61
Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:03 pm
Mike Nobody wrote:
JCP61 wrote:please indicate the writings that show Jesus advocating institutional collectivism.
or any type of social contract for that matter.


Are you f*cking kidding me?
That is so asinine it doesn't deserve an answer.


so said the guy with no answer

#208134 by Kramerguy
Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:34 pm
I don't think I should have to quote scripture (nor would I want to), to prove that a true saint and giver (regardless if he was the son of god, or just a random nice dude) was what he was.

Your problems aren't about what jesus was, your problems are that you claim to follow his teachings, and got it all wrong. You also have an inaccurate viewpoint of what socialism really is. Stealing is not socialism. That's neoliberal capitalism.

#208136 by Kramerguy
Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:36 pm
I'm also curious, where exactly does "We The People" translate to "Every Fukkin man for himself" ?

#208161 by Mike Nobody
Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:54 pm
Kramerguy wrote:I don't think I should have to quote scripture (nor would I want to), to prove that a true saint and giver (regardless if he was the son of god, or just a random nice dude) was what he was.

Your problems aren't about what jesus was, your problems are that you claim to follow his teachings, and got it all wrong. You also have an inaccurate viewpoint of what socialism really is. Stealing is not socialism. That's neoliberal capitalism.


Amen.

#208173 by JCP61
Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:03 pm
Kramerguy wrote:I don't think I should have to quote scripture (nor would I want to), to prove that a true saint and giver (regardless if he was the son of god, or just a random nice dude) was what he was.

Your problems aren't about what jesus was, your problems are that you claim to follow his teachings, and got it all wrong. You also have an inaccurate viewpoint of what socialism really is. Stealing is not socialism. That's neoliberal capitalism.




I never made claim one.

I just read the book and believe what it says,
I never said once that you were going to make out better by my doing that.

you on the other hand claimed to have some info about the governmental leanings of the Christ.

i want to know about that if you happen to be in possession of such information.

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