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#207355 by Slacker G
Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:04 pm
I would like to think they would save some for us. I don't think the deer stand a chance since DHS has stockpiled 1.6billion rounds of ammo in the last year and just put in an order for more. Evidently the deer have inside info in this and are preparing to fight back, thus the latest order by DHS for 2700 light armored vehicles.

I sure wouldn't want to be a deer. I know that the hollow point ammo (the greater portion of these orders) are for target practice since the Geneva Convention does not allow hollow point ammo to be used in warfare.
Actually I have learned to trust this regime, so I don't worry, but you who love deer and other game should be concerned.

DHS Purchases 2700 Light-Armored Tanks

http://beforeitsnews.com/tea-party/2013 ... 80924.html


DHS To Purchase Another 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo

http://downdirtyword.blogspot.com/2012/ ... ds-of.html


http://www.infowars.com/dhs-to-purchase ... s-of-ammo/

Really? Light tanks and ammo just to kill deer? Where are the ovens? No orders for the ovens to cook them? that is totally irresponsible in my opinion. :) :)
#207366 by DainNobody
Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:55 pm
Slacker G wrote:I would like to think they would save some for us. I don't think the deer stand a chance since DHS has stockpiled 1.6billion rounds of ammo in the last year and just put in an order for more. Evidently the deer have inside info in this and are preparing to fight back, thus the latest order by DHS for 2700 light armored vehicles.

I sure wouldn't want to be a deer. I know that the hollow point ammo (the greater portion of these orders) are for target practice since the Geneva Convention does not allow hollow point ammo to be used in warfare.
Actually I have learned to trust this regime, so I don't worry, but you who love deer and other game should be concerned.

DHS Purchases 2700 Light-Armored Tanks

http://beforeitsnews.com/tea-party/2013 ... 80924.html


DHS To Purchase Another 750 Million Rounds Of Ammo

http://downdirtyword.blogspot.com/2012/ ... ds-of.html


http://www.infowars.com/dhs-to-purchase ... s-of-ammo/

Really? Light tanks and ammo just to kill deer? Where are the ovens? No orders for the ovens to cook them? that is totally irresponsible in my opinion. :) :)
the tanks are to quash the rebellion soon to happen.. people without money will go to extrme measures to feed their families.. I have a rented storage unit full of junk that will probably be ransacked when the rebellion begins.. hope they have a light tank stationed in Pleasant Hope LOLOL!!

#207380 by Slacker G
Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:03 pm
Well thank God that all these purchases are simply preparations for slaughtering Americans and not Bambi. Simply knowing that I'll sleep much better. :)

I hope this regime begins ordering some big ovens soon. All those dead Americans would become quite stinky.

#207381 by mdh studios
Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:06 pm
It's funny, where I live the deer's greatest predator is the all the cars, heh heh. I'm not even sure where you could go hunting for them around here.

#207385 by DainNobody
Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:09 pm
it happened in Russia in 1917? I would not doubt that it happens again ..when common people are burdened too much, and work like an animal for only a day;s bread?. while the top few live like kings and exploit the common people, selling them processed foods, watered down services, then rebellion is bound to happen.. 20 years? 30 years? 10 years?

#207390 by Slacker G
Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:25 pm
How about within two- three years? That appears quite plausible to me.

#207469 by Slacker G
Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:38 am
Oh yeah. I forgot this one. Hey, Weren't these bastards hired by us to defend our rights? Naaaaaaaaa. They just went there to set themselves up as rulers over us. After all, someone has to play for their high and mighty lifestyles.

DHS Domestic Drones Designed To Snoop on Guns, Communications

J.D. Tuccille|Mar. 4, 2013 3:26 pm

Predator droneU.S. Air ForceNot that Big Brother robots will ever come swooping across the sky, sniffing out people carrying guns and locating people by their mobile devices, but just in case there was ever a need for such a thing, the Department of Homeland Security is building such capabilities into its domestically deployed drones. For now, drones that can identify people toting rifles, sniff out cell phone conversations and (potentially) launch weapons are primarily deployed at the border, but they're getting quite a workout in the heartland, too, reports CNet's Declan McCullagh.

Writes McCullagh:

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has customized its Predator drones, originally built for overseas military operations, to carry out at-home surveillance tasks that have civil libertarians worried: identifying civilians carrying guns and tracking their cell phones, government documents show.

The documents provide more details about the surveillance capabilities of the department's unmanned Predator B drones, which are primarily used to patrol the United States' northern and southern borders but have been pressed into service on behalf of a growing number of law enforcement agencies including the FBI, the Secret Service, the Texas Rangers, and local police.

CNet links to unredacted DHS requirements for domestic Predator drones, which provide some interesting details on the device's abilities and their potential uses.

Of interest to Second Amendment fans, of course, is the idea of robots in the sky spotting and marking the location of anybody carrying a rifle or a shotgun (a holstered pistol would seem to be a stretch for the technology — at least, so far). That's not an uncommon activity in much of the country, and the idea of eager Homeland Security goons bouncing across forest and desert in pursuit of some poor SOB out to bag a rabbit or plink a few tin cans is less than assuring to many people.

3.5.3.1.7 Shall be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not (based on position of arms) at a slant range of one and a half times the specified Operating Altitude.

The requirements also lay out the wish list for the drones' abilities to intercept communications and target the source of signals. The abilities are specified by bandwidth, and a quick cross-check with what devices use which parts of the spectrum reveal that, yes, indeed, pretty much any widget you may care to carry and talk, text or email through is covered.

3.5.5 Signals Interception
3.5.5.1.1 Shall (T) provide 360-degree coverage in azimuth of the spectrum from 30 MHz to 3 GHz unblocked.

3.5.5.1.2 The payload shall provide 2 degree (T) 1 degree (O) root mean square (RMS) direction finding (DF) accuracy from 30 MHz to 150 MHz and provide 1 degree (T) 1/2 degree (O) root mean square (RMS) direction finding (DF) accuracy from 150 MHz to 3000 MHz.

DHS originally acquired the drones for border patrol purposes, but a 2012 report (PDF) from the DHS Office of the Inspector General revealed that Customs and Border Protection has been loaning its toys to agencies including:

* Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agencies, including Office of Border Patrol, United States Secret Service, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE);
* Bureau of Land Management;
* Federal Bureau of Investigation;
* Department of Defense;
* Texas Rangers;
* United States Forest Service; and
* National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

Those loans take place with sufficient frequency that the report frets that CBP "does not have agreements with exterior stakeholders for reimbursement of mission costs."

Oh, yeah. I guess those Big Brother robots are swooping across the sky, after all.

#207510 by MikeTalbot
Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:36 pm
Slacker

2700 'tanks' = TEN ARMORED Divisions. That's how many hitler had when he took down France in 1940. just who are the targets of these many vehicles? Oh wait...that's right. It's us.

They are actually light armoured personnel carries and look like a molotov cocktail should be their drink of choice.

So now Homeland security is the fourth largest army in the world. The pentagon already spends as much as the whole rest of the world combined on these sort of toys and yet we need more?

Would somebody hit the lights please? This movie is about over.

Talbot

#207554 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:58 pm
Why is the govt spending so much on crap like this when so many in China don't even have enough public rest rooms. :roll: :roll: :roll:

#207561 by MikeTalbot
Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:27 am
jeeze Glen - you must be close to my age. My mother was always saying eat your cabbage - there are people starving in China.

i got slapped good and proper when I'd heard that enough and said, "Well then - let's ship this stuff over to them!"

Talbot

#207566 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:48 am
Don't worry Talbot... I am developing life size targets with the same exclamation "DON'T HESITATE".

They will depict army national guard standing over the body of an American mommy with her baby in her arms.

My favorite is a young national guard standing over the body of a young man with a STRAT. The caption... BAD HEAVY METAL.

Hey, If the government thinks its OK to spend 4 million on similar targets, why not?

I expect to make millions... I am such a capitalist.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#207579 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:52 am
Don't bother to read this all you leftists:

DHS built domestic surveillance tech into Predator drones:
Homeland Security's specifications say drones must be able to detect whether a
civilian is armed. Also specified: "signals interception" and
"direction finding" for electronic surveillance.
by Declan McCullagh C|NET March 2, 2013 11:30 AM PST
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has customized its
Predator drones, originally built for overseas military operations, to carry
out at-home surveillance tasks that have civil libertarians worried:
identifying civilians carrying guns and tracking their cell phones, government
documents show. The documents provide more details about the surveillance
capabilities of the department's unmanned Predator B drones, which are
primarily used to patrol the United States' northern and southern borders but
have been pressed into service on behalf of a growing number of law enforcement
agencies including the FBI, the Secret Service, the Texas Rangers, and local
police. Homeland Security's specifications for its drones, built by San
Diego-based General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, say they "shall be
capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or
not," meaning carrying a shotgun or rifle. They also specify "signals
interception" technology that can capture communications in the frequency
ranges used by mobile phones, and "direction finding" technology that
can identify the locations of mobile devices or two-way radios. The Electronic
Privacy Information Center obtained a partially redacted copy of Homeland
Security's requirements for its drone fleet through the Freedom of Information
Act and published it this week. CNET unearthed an unredacted copy of the
requirements that provides additional information about the aircraft's surveillance
capabilities. Concern about domestic use of drones is growing, with federal
legislation introduced last month that would establish legal safeguards, in
addition to parallel efforts underway from state and local lawmakers. The
Federal Aviation Administration recently said that it will "address
privacy-related data collection" by drones. The prospect of identifying
armed Americans concerns Second Amendment advocates, who say that technology
billed as securing the United States' land and maritime borders should not be
used domestically. Michael Kostelnik, the Homeland Security official who
created the program, told Congress that the drone fleet would be available to
"respond to emergency missions across the country," and a Predator
drone was dispatched to the tiny town of Lakota, N.D., to aid local police in a
dispute that began with reimbursement for feeding six cows. The defendant,
arrested with the help of Predator surveillance, lost a preliminary bid to
dismiss the charges. "I am very concerned that this technology will be
used against law-abiding American firearms owners," says Alan Gottlieb,
founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation.
"This could violate Fourth Amendment rights as well as Second Amendment
rights." Homeland Security's Customs and Border Protection agency declined
to answer questions about whether direction-finding technology is currently in
use on its drone fleet. A representative provided CNET with a statement about
the agency's unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) that said signals interception
capability is not currently used:
U.S. Customs and Border Protection is not deploying signals interception
capabilities on its UAS fleet. Any potential deployment of such technology in
the future would be implemented in full consideration of civil rights, civil
liberties, and privacy interests and in a manner consistent with the law and
long-standing law enforcement practices. CBP's UAS program is a vital border
security asset. Equipped with state-of-the-art sensors and day-and-night
cameras, the UAS provides real-time images to frontline agents to more
effectively and efficiently secure the nation's borders. As a force multiplier,
the UAS operates for extended periods of time and allows CBP to safely conduct
missions over tough-to-reach terrain. The UAS also provides agents on the
ground with added situational awareness to more safely resolve dangerous
situations.

During his appearance before the House Homeland Security
committee, Kostelnik, a retired Air Force major general who recently left the
agency, testified that the drones' direction-finding ability is part of a set
of "DOD capabilities that are being tested or adopted by CBP to enhance
UAS performance for homeland security." CBP currently has 10 Predator
drones and is considering buying up to 14 more. If the Predator drones were
used only to identify smugglers or illegal immigrants crossing the Mexican and
Canadian borders, or for disaster relief, they might not be especially
controversial. But their use domestically by other government agencies has
become routine enough -- and expensive enough -- that Homeland Security's
inspector general said (PDF) last year that CBP needs to sign agreements
"for reimbursement of expenses incurred fulfilling mission requests."
"The documents clearly evidence that the Department of Homeland Security
is developing drones with signals interception technology and the capability to
identify people on the ground," says Ginger McCall, director of the Open
Government Project at the Electronic Privacy Information Center. "This
allows for invasive surveillance, including potential communications
surveillance, that could run afoul of federal privacy laws." A Homeland
Security official, who did not want to be identified by name, said the drones
are able to identify whether movement on the ground comes from a human or an
animal, but that they do not perform facial recognition. The official also said
that because the unarmed drones have a long anticipated life span, the
department tries to plan ahead for future uses to support its border security
mission, and that aerial surveillance would comply with the Electronic
Communications Privacy Act and other applicable federal laws. The documents
show that CBP specified that the "tracking accuracy should be sufficient
to allow target designation," and the agency notes on its Web site that
its Predator B series is capable of "targeting and weapons delivery"
(the military version carries multiple 100-pound Hellfire missiles). CBP says,
however, that its Predator aircraft are unarmed. Gene Hoffman, a Silicon Valley
entrepreneur who's the chairman of the Calguns Foundation, said CBP "needs
to be very careful with attempts to identify armed individuals in the border
area" when aerial surveillance touches on a constitutional right. "In
the border area of California and Arizona, it may be actively dangerous for the
law-abiding to not carry firearms precisely due to the illegal flow of drugs
and immigrants across the border in those areas," Hoffman says. CBP's
specifications say that signals interception and direction-finding technology
must work from 30MHz to 3GHz in the radio spectrum. That sweeps in the GSM and
CDMA frequencies used by mobile phones, which are in the 300MHz to 2.7GHz
range, as well as many two-way radios. The specifications say: "The system
shall provide automatic and manual DF of multiple signals simultaneously.
Automatic DF should be able to separate out individual communication
links." Automated direction-finding for cell phones has become an
off-the-shelf technology: one company sells a unit that its literature says is
"capable of taking the bearing of every mobile phone active in a
channel." Although CBP's unmanned Predator aircraft are commonly called
drones, they're remotely piloted by FAA-licensed operators on the ground. They
can fly for up to 20 hours and carry a payload of about 500 lbs.!!!!!

I didn't write this... but I just am amazed at how many people are calling out all the wrong that is going on.

#207684 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:18 pm
The police state is already in place. When they finally turn it on, it will be too late to stop the worst one in history.

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#207690 by jimmydanger
Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:26 pm
So how are the Paranoid Boys doing today?

#207859 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:04 am
jimmydanger wrote:So how are the Paranoid Boys doing today?


Jimmy... You seem to be the one most paranoid. You and a long list of people calling out the same thing.

No sir, if it is raining and everyone is saying it is not... I must question not only their reliability as a witness, but also their motivation. Jimmy you fall heavily into the second category. Are you expecting a medal from our government?

All I want to do is make sure that you are not eliminated and placed in a a plastic box... because the powers in control deem you to be just another sack of worthless sh*t.

I don't look at you that way... I am not even concerned with your paranoia.

Smile buddy. :)

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