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#207105 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:51 pm
I am reposting this as a reminder...

We The People

We have all heard the term civil disobedience. It is a term used to describe any action that goes against the authority of the the powers granted to maintain a stable community. This is to mean a government granted the authority to prevent anarchy and chaos. This is essential to provide a stable environment where a community can prosper in relative safety.

However I would be inclined to point out a similar phrase, that must be understood as well. Governmental disobedience. This is the United States of America. This is a nation of free men and women that have chosen to allow a government under THEIR AUTHORITY... to surrender some of their choices for the greater good of the community. In other words some of us would rather drive on the left side of the road but instead we all agree to drive on the right. It helps to avoid chaos.

However at what point are we surrendering our authority to a government that is suddenly empowered by it's own will. At what point does a government overstep that fine line, and by the very belief that the power imbued is actually from the governments very own existence.

At that point we have opened the doors to something far worse than anarchy. We have opened the doors to tyranny and GOVERNMENTAL DISOBEDIENCE!

When our government at all levels, national, state , local, and even towns, start to make decisions without the true consent of the people... Usually the reasoning starts with... I was elected by the people because they trust my judgment in all the matters that I was elected for. That includes any reasoning that could influence my decisions... even if the outcome is different than the perceived values that got me elected in the first place.

The problem is that we have empowered a person. A person that is also another human being the same as every one that elected him. Prone to human frailties, anger, prejudice, pet projects, and loves. Prone to mistakes and prone to pride, greed and a long list of human qualities.

Once we have empowered this elected official it is then we must be very mindful of the very reason we have allowed a government to moderate our freedoms. A government is meant to arbitrate our petty differences for the good of the whole community. A government is meant to provide stable rules and laws. I use the word stable because every law throughout history usually has some stable basis or precedent. If laws where just changed overnight and on a continual basis, it would only lead to the very anarchy we are trying to avoid to begin with. All this law making must not be approached with just a casual attitude of the man empowered by the fact of his election. It must be approached with the gravity and tremendous responsibility allowed, If we are to maintain a free society.

Once this relationship between government and a free people is corrupted in any way or manner, the out cry should be overwhelming. At that point we have reached, the point of governmental disobedience. That is the point where the government is more important than the people and the power is no longer coming from the true authority. THE PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE.
Glen Johnston.
#209026 by Vampier
Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:34 am
...Glenn I thank you very much for your kind and oh so relevant postings... There is little time left for free expression and the window for the internet as it now and has existed is closing rapidly. By the end ofthis year the Dollar will no doubt have lost its stataus as the world currencyand the middle class of the uswillhave been totally enslaced. Those who are stupid enough to continue thinking... Ha ha.¿that they own their houses and properties and that they are somehow free as it were will be unpleasantly surprised. Civil Disobediance will by. Virtue become very cery uncivil disobediance and things will intensifify . I am still off the internet and hopeto atsome point retuen beforeit becomes the ridiculous internet two. This has been an interesting exercise in that it makes one realize fu lly what it is to be fully removedfrom the i ternet andDarkasit were. Luckily Iamnor fully dependant upon it and this situation serves only to make .me realize that imust make alternativearrangements asap. I wish only those of you well...even those of you who think I am full of SH__..
#212116 by Vampier
Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:59 pm
... I am now back on line. All of you who have told me time and again that I am paranoid can have at. So much has occurred since I last wrote and all of it so good and wholesome under the "duly elected trash" that everyone thinks is "Leading" the country ... dare I say this World ???
#212173 by Vampier
Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:39 pm
... Dustin Hoffmann represents the General Public so well in this instance. No one knows what to really say or do. It really does not matter at this point. There is no "police" only State Controlled Military. The Constitution is in it's death throes and very soon we all shall be. Evaluation, classification, re-education and incarceration... government masturbation ... all fading away into obscurity making way for the next "Alert" ... "Event" or "False Flag. The Secret Arrests have been going on for quite some time and soon will come the Mass Arrests. The "Camps" are ready as is the Neo Police Force which will perpetrate the One World Hell which has been coming. In the sweep of a finger now the Internet and all communications, travel, food and water can all be shut down. No Air Travel, Banking or even walking away. Believe what you wish. It is not for me to "convince" you or even to try.

#212191 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:36 pm
Good to see you Vamp. I ain't hiding. If my government wants to kill me...

OH WELL... Much better than living in fear.

#212194 by MikeTalbot
Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:29 am
Vamp

I don't expect to die of old age...even though that option will be on the table before long! :wink:

But I am reminded of scripture, Mathew, Olivet Discourse as I recall: "When you see these things, look up! For your salvation is near!"

Talbot
#212204 by Vampier
Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:52 am
... Gleny ... Wonderful to hear from you and read your Posts. The Winds of Change are blowing now and what comes .... well it is coming. One day perhaps we will meet ...in this Circle. If not then the next perhaps.

Talbot ...I believe you ... the Reaper is not going to wait for you to die of old age. He is angry and impatient ... especially with you as you have no doubt "cheated" him on several occasions. Very Good to hear from you. You are always a Gentleman and a scholar as they say. Very angry to read your Post re your Brother's death and all the stupidity involved regarding it. What an idiotic and needless Drama. Feinstein and Pelilosa are cast from the same hideous seed.

My Wife is practising her new viola ... she is taking a viola class, a piano class and something called a musical theory class ??? have you ever heard of such a thing ? She has been doing it for a bit now and loves it. I had nothing to do with it so can take no credit. She has never done anything like it before. We just got her a new viola ....white and black and pretty cool.
#212293 by Vampier
Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:14 pm
...Baby Bushand the Black Messiah guilty of War Crimes ala Nureberg ?

#212387 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:26 pm
GLENNY J wrote:I am reposting this as a reminder...

We The People

We have all heard the term civil disobedience. It is a term used to describe any action that goes against the authority of the the powers granted to maintain a stable community. This is to mean a government granted the authority to prevent anarchy and chaos. This is essential to provide a stable environment where a community can prosper in relative safety.

However I would be inclined to point out a similar phrase, that must be understood as well. Governmental disobedience. This is the United States of America. This is a nation of free men and women that have chosen to allow a government under THEIR AUTHORITY... to surrender some of their choices for the greater good of the community. In other words some of us would rather drive on the left side of the road but instead we all agree to drive on the right. It helps to avoid chaos.

However at what point are we surrendering our authority to a government that is suddenly empowered by it's own will. At what point does a government overstep that fine line, and by the very belief that the power imbued is actually from the governments very own existence.

At that point we have opened the doors to something far worse than anarchy. We have opened the doors to tyranny and GOVERNMENTAL DISOBEDIENCE!

When our government at all levels, national, state , local, and even towns, start to make decisions without the true consent of the people... Usually the reasoning starts with... I was elected by the people because they trust my judgment in all the matters that I was elected for. That includes any reasoning that could influence my decisions... even if the outcome is different than the perceived values that got me elected in the first place.

The problem is that we have empowered a person. A person that is also another human being the same as every one that elected him. Prone to human frailties, anger, prejudice, pet projects, and loves. Prone to mistakes and prone to pride, greed and a long list of human qualities.

Once we have empowered this elected official it is then we must be very mindful of the very reason we have allowed a government to moderate our freedoms. A government is meant to arbitrate our petty differences for the good of the whole community. A government is meant to provide stable rules and laws. I use the word stable because every law throughout history usually has some stable basis or precedent. If laws where just changed overnight and on a continual basis, it would only lead to the very anarchy we are trying to avoid to begin with. All this law making must not be approached with just a casual attitude of the man empowered by the fact of his election. It must be approached with the gravity and tremendous responsibility allowed, If we are to maintain a free society.

Once this relationship between government and a free people is corrupted in any way or manner, the out cry should be overwhelming. At that point we have reached, the point of governmental disobedience. That is the point where the government is more important than the people and the power is no longer coming from the true authority. THE PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE.
Glen Johnston.


BUMP!!!

Good to hear from you Stephan!!!!!!!!!

#212388 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:31 pm
I'm sorry. I tried to open up some honest discussion. Obviously many do not understand the complexities of our freedoms.

THEN YOU SHALL LOSE THEM.

In God we Trust.
#212452 by Vampier
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:06 pm
...Glenn ... Thank you for "reposting" WE THE PEOPLE. Thoreau would smile... and then afer seeing what is now happenning, he would shake his head and return to his grave ... a better place. You are correct ... most Constitutional Freedoms have been gone for quite some time. The frogs are almost all on some sort of drugs, retarded, dumbed down, poisoned, blind and sucking on a sweet tit of death as they begin to boil.

This latest "bombing" clearly demonstrates how now the "Livestock" will accept anything, regardless of how ridiculous and now they have shown they will "accept" one "story" then readily discard it and "accept" the next completely different "story/lie" without question ...hence the "poularity" of Fox News, changing governmental and state "statements", the Myt of Homeland Security, absurd lies, versions, actions, statements and the DEATH OF FREEDOM. FEAR and GREED now "rule".

more coming ....

#212456 by Slacker G
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:22 pm
This whole story is a power grabbing setup, as is everything you hear in the "spews" media. It is always orchestrated to disarm the Americans who love and support the constitution and personal freedom.
#212457 by Vampier
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:22 pm
...Two questions for anyone who reads my "drivel" .....

1... Worldly, Historical and most relevant ... Why has Gold consistently been considered to be so "valuable" by virtually all the so-called civilizations down through the ages ? It has some qualities regarding electronics for instace but this was not applicable in Ancient Sumeria and Egypt ... or was it ? It is soft, heavy and is outperformed in actual "use" by a host of other metals of better and more suitable qualities. It is also more rare than most and just as difficult to "mine" or harvest. You can not eat it, drink it or justify it's suppossed "value" as compared to things of real value like water for instance. It is outperformed by other elements in almost all of it's limited uses by mankind. This has puzzeled me ever since I saw "The Man Who Fell To Earth". I am aware of various "theories" regarding this answer but despite all this I am left generally mystified and with only a very odd theory which may or may not be true and which I doubt if I will ever see proven or disproven in this life or Circle. This is and has always been it seems. I feel that it is in Truth devoid of Politics and Religion and Mankind's Reality here upon this physical plane.


Question Two next ...
#212458 by Vampier
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:41 pm
...2... Musical, General and Personal ...my Wife is learning two instruments now ... the piano and the viola plus a class on theory. Many musical and nonmusicals have told her here it is a bad idea. I would like to hear some opinions, views, etc. from those really "qualified"... you guys and girls ...real musicians. She has been doing three classes a week now for over a month and her teacher are pleased with her progress and impressed by her abilities. She has excellent ears, exceptional memory and ability to grasp theory and lacks I feel only practice and general application of her increasing understanding.

I think it is good as the piano pretty much lays it all out there in front of you and playing a string develops the "touch" and "feel" even further in a different but also relevant way plus promotes the ability to be "fretless" as it were. Most of all she is enjoying the hell out of it all and it is something of a nature which she has never done. She practices daily and often more than once each day.

She loves to dance and loves and appreciates music so has always had an interest. I am not interested in debate here only others opinions, experiences and thoughts.
#212462 by Vampier
Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:56 pm
... Slacker ... I thank you for your Post. I have been "off" for sometime and isolated and being kept busy with survival and "visits" from friends etc. But I am now back and catching up with everything including my website.

Excellent Post and terribly obvious for quite some time and now I feel indisputable. Those who disagree I believe deserve our pity and are nothing more than the "Poster Children" of this Dying Age of Man The Animal.

The Law of Seperation is now firmly in place and any attempts to convince the unconvincible are now futile. Debate is pointless and ressistance is now ievitable and neccesary.

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