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#204250 by PaperDog
Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:44 am
jimmydanger wrote:He was an ex-Navy Seal sharpshooter with the best sniper record and his gun didn't help him did it. You must be so proud of your fellow Texan POS.


Seriously Jimmy, Have you no respect for our military guys?
How desperate you must be, to resort to this, to twist the context, just so you can obtain a sense of worth and to feel like you are 'right about some trivial point you were trying to make.. What a spineless pedestrian you are...

#204252 by jimmydanger
Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:45 am
Hmmm no homosexual insults for them, just me eh? You are one immature piece of work. Seriously you act like you're 15. I'm done with you.

#204253 by jimmydanger
Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:46 am
By the way that was for Haley, you're not even worth responding to TP.

#204256 by J-HALEY
Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:52 am
jimmydanger wrote:By the way that was for Haley, you're not even worth responding to TP.


Hey DUMBPHUK YOU DID RESPOND TO HIM! Gosh what a stupid mutherphuker you are Jimmy you got SH!T FOR BRAINS! Like I said in the past you should go punch your professor in the mouth for teaching you how to be such a dumb@ss! :lol:

#204263 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:27 am
Go Jeff, You ROCK!!!!

Sorry Jimmy... You paint your self into way to many corners. Now that's funny... No... It's sad.

#204265 by MikeTalbot
Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:31 am
"The bravest soldier can be killed by a bomb."
Field Marshall Erwin Rommel

Or by a shot in the back, while trying to help someone.

I can be killed that way too. But you or any innocent are much safer when I am armed and I tend to look over my shoulder a lot.

And if an armed combat soldier cannot protect himself, does logic then suggest that we are safer being unarmed? Not hardly!

An armed man has a chance. Unarmed? You are the gunman's bitch.

Talbot

#204277 by gtZip
Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:07 am
Unless you use Crane Technique

#204286 by gtZip
Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:35 am
Uhhh... Aren't Police Officers good guys with guns?

#204303 by Paleopete
Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:42 pm
yep....guns kill people.


WRONG...

People kill people.

Take away guns, they will use knives. Already do actually, more often than guns.

Take away knives they will use clubs. What do you thing Ceasar and Nero used? Swords, knives and clubs. Atillah the Hun? Swords, knives and clubs. Jack the Ripper? A knife.

Take away clubs they will grab up rocks.

Do you think killing people was never an idea until guns were invented? Given the short time guns have existed compared to known history, I'd say 10 times as many people have been killed with knives, swords, clubs and even rocks over the past 50,000 years. Just the Inquisition before guns existed claimed over a half million lives. Not to mention wars and criminal activity for thousands of years in every country you can think of. Long before guns existed...

People kill people.

I have a 16 ga shotgun loaded with buckshot, .22 single shot rifle also loaded, .243 loaded as well and a .22 pistol. Yep, loaded too. In 25 years, not one of them has ever jumped up and killed anybody. I've owned guns much longer than that, around 50 years, that's just since I got the first of these.

Anybody who uses the "guns kill people" remark is misinformed. Guns do not kill, people do. Otherwise I have no doubt my Winchester Mod. 1200 would have run out and killed someone long, long ago. It's been kept fully loaded for 25 years.

Think about it, what do criminals want? Defenseless victims, unable to protect themselves, their families and their property. How often do you hear about some guy with a gun rack in his pickup being robbed? Nope, it's always the grey haired retired couple on vacation. Burglars try to make sure they break into your house while you're gone. Why do spree killers choose locations like malls, theaters and schools? They know nobody will be shooting back. How many have walked into Police stations? One I know of, and he had a grudge. Different story...

Why were 5 terrorists able to hijack commercial airliners with box cutters...because they knew they would be unopposed. They knew they would have the only weapons on those planes. Why did some crazy walk into a theater and open fire? He knew he would be unopposed, nobody would be shooting back.

Put yourself in the criminal's shoes. Do you want to rob someone you know carries a gun or someone you know does not? Think like a criminal. Would you break into the head of the NRA's house? Seriously... I really doubt it.

Gun control is exactly what criminals want. It gives them exactly what they want, defenseless victims.

Yeah the gun control fanatics say they just want to limit "assault weapons" That's just an attempt to get their foot in the door. Next it will be all rifles. Then all handguns. And so forth until you won't be able to get a bb gun.

Tobacco should show you exactly what will happen. At first they just wanted to ban advertising. Then it was smoking areas in public buildings. Now you can't smoke in any public building at all, no dedicated smoking areas, people are catching pneumonia because they are not allowed a place indoors for smoke breaks in winter. And non smokers claim they care about the health issues...

This is just a foot in the door. Once they manage to get any kind of gun control at all, it will not stop. And we will be more and more unable to defend ourselves when the slime ball down the street wants money.

I'm in Texas right now because some low life here broke into my sister's house twice...while she was out of town. Before I moved I had a good friend who was a sheriff's deputy. We got into a discussion about the serious crime problem there. He told me to load my pistol, put it in the Jeep and carry plenty spare ammo. Otherwise, I'd have no option if anything happened. Fortunately I never had to use it. That would suck...

I don't like that. I'd much prefer to be able to drive around unarmed and not worry about it. That's just a bad idea these days. Our society is sick. Too many people running around frustrated, mad at the world, unemployment out of control...violence everywhere. Say what you will, TV and movies have a detrimental affect too. More violence than anything else. Art imitates life.

I don't have any easy answers, but limiting gun ownership in any way is a very bad idea. It's just giving the bad guys exactly what they want. Defenseless victims. And giving the gun control fanatics what they want, their foot in the door so they can gradually take away everything.

Believe otherwise if you want to, I don't really care what you believe. But save your third grade insults for someone else. Don't bother responding to me unless it's something intelligent, well thought out and non insulting. I'll just ignore anything else. If you can't do any better than a childish, insulting rant, it's not worth wasting my time on you. But if you have any sense at all, you will not let "your" government disarm you.

#204314 by Planetguy
Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:00 pm
Paleopete wrote: But if you have any sense at all, you will not let "your" government disarm you.


i'll keep it short and sweet.....if you buy into that paranoid domino theory that stricter gun control = gov't coming to take your guns away then i wonder how much "sense" YOU have.

as for people killing people and doing it w whatever weapons they have avail.... i think the victims of Aurora and Sandy Hook would have preferred the wackos used rocks or clubs instead of automatic weapons.

congrats that YOUR guns haven't killed anyone. now, that's a great argument against gun control.

#204330 by J-HALEY
Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:30 pm
Planetguy wrote:
Paleopete wrote: But if you have any sense at all, you will not let "your" government disarm you.


i'll keep it short and sweet.....if you buy into that paranoid domino theory that stricter gun control = gov't coming to take your guns away then i wonder how much "sense" YOU have.

as for people killing people and doing it w whatever weapons they have avail.... i think the victims of Aurora and Sandy Hook would have preferred the wackos used rocks or clubs instead of automatic weapons.

congrats that YOUR guns haven't killed anyone. now, that's a great argument against gun control.


Mark they were semi automatic weapons not fully auto. There is a difference. When you say automatic it means (at least to me) fully auto.

#204331 by Kramerguy
Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:40 pm
Semantics. You still couldn't have pulled off a sandy hook with knives and rocks. Even a good katana in the hands of a master swordsman would have achieved less death.

And that's the point.. a complete idiot can spray 150 bullets into a bunch of classrooms in the time it takes to kill two people with a rock.

There's also plenty of dead children in gaza that would attest (if they were not dead) that BOTH sides having guns doesn't mean less gun death.

#204332 by crunchysoundbite
Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:52 pm
We honor our military veterans, as we should.Some have been through more than others. Many should have never been in the service. As a Marine, I can testify of many servicemen that were there as a two part choice- "Serve in the Marines or do time for you crime. These are the guys that watch your back and steal from you as you have it turned. They don't show for work. They do more of what they are best at, selling drugs, until getting caught. They are then on charges that render them useless to their Battalion because they cannot be deployed. I didn't know another Marine that didn't have a difficult life before entering. Hence, the term Uncle Sam's Misguided Children. A good sniper does not make him a good judge of character. Knowing his brother at arms was going through psychological difficulties should have been the red flag to tell him this was a fella ya don't take shootin'. Before I train anyone, I take the steps to ask the questions: Why do you want concealed carry? Do you have any felonies, history of mental illness, or physical violence? And so on. Sure, they can lie. A backround check before they get in the class. And there is also the NRA Rule For Instructors- No one behind the firing line has a loaded weapon. Being a sniper didn't make him an instructor. Being in the military didn't make the shooter a good person.

#204334 by J-HALEY
Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:02 pm
Kramerguy wrote:Semantics. You still couldn't have pulled off a sandy hook with knives and rocks. Even a good katana in the hands of a master swordsman would have achieved less death.

And that's the point.. a complete idiot can spray 150 bullets into a bunch of classrooms in the time it takes to kill two people with a rock.

There's also plenty of dead children in gaza that would attest (if they were not dead) that BOTH sides having guns doesn't mean less gun death.


Kramer do you seriously believe guns, knives and rocks are the only weapons? A madman that is planning a crime to immortalize himself like these people are doing, if they don't have access to guns they will find other weapons do you remember Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, 911 I could go on and on!

#204337 by crunchysoundbite
Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:09 pm
The first assault weapon was a fist. The first one used to kill was a club.

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