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#20335 by 7 Rocks Texas
Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:55 pm
Everyone,

Thank you for all of your comments. It really goes to show you that Christianity is one of the most polarizing subjects in the world. Look at what is going on with the pre-election stuff.

For all of you nay sayers, this is a ministry first and foremost and a band second. I just can't see that Benny Hinn, or Kenneth Copeland would put a non-believer in a position of crucial importance to their respective ministries. I would imagine that they are kind enough to hire non-believers as employees. If I needed a roady or guitar tech, something of that nature, I would hire someone who was qualified and capable whether they believe or not.

As far as a singer goes, since he will be holding a mic, a pretty powerful tool, then I am adamant about him being a strong Christian man. For those who stood with me in my decision to have certain criteria concerning my singer, I applaud you and thank you for understanding my view. I do respect all of your opinions, but for me that is all that they are. In the end, I will be the one who makes the decisions concerning this ministry since God gave it to me, right, wrong, or indifferent. I hope that doesn't come across as harsh or crass. That's not my intention at all.

Let's see.....so far we've managed to agree and disagree whether I should have a believer as my singer.....and still no one has come forward and said, "Hey, I'm a great singer and I am a strong believer!" That was my initial intention, right?

#20360 by Guitaranatomy
Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:19 am
God Shall Add wrote:Everyone,

Thank you for all of your comments. It really goes to show you that Christianity is one of the most polarizing subjects in the world. Look at what is going on with the pre-election stuff.

For all of you nay sayers, this is a ministry first and foremost and a band second. I just can't see that Benny Hinn, or Kenneth Copeland would put a non-believer in a position of crucial importance to their respective ministries. I would imagine that they are kind enough to hire non-believers as employees. If I needed a roady or guitar tech, something of that nature, I would hire someone who was qualified and capable whether they believe or not.

As far as a singer goes, since he will be holding a mic, a pretty powerful tool, then I am adamant about him being a strong Christian man. For those who stood with me in my decision to have certain criteria concerning my singer, I applaud you and thank you for understanding my view. I do respect all of your opinions, but for me that is all that they are. In the end, I will be the one who makes the decisions concerning this ministry since God gave it to me, right, wrong, or indifferent. I hope that doesn't come across as harsh or crass. That's not my intention at all.

Let's see.....so far we've managed to agree and disagree whether I should have a believer as my singer.....and still no one has come forward and said, "Hey, I'm a great singer and I am a strong believer!" That was my initial intention, right?



Benny Hinn *Coughs, choking from laughing too hard* No offense, but that guy is the ultimate fraud of the century. Am I the only one who can see he is taking people just so he can keep flying around in his private jets?

Hey, off religion, probably the worst crook is Kevin Trudeau. I know that herbs can be helpful, but I am not going to listen to a guy with no degree in medicine tell me to drop my medications, lol. Just stupid.

Back on topic though, the only thing I will agree with is that you posted for a religious singer and not one has come forward yet. I do not think anyone should discriminate the religion of their band members, but it does only seem logical to me that a religious band would want all religious members.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

#20396 by 7 Rocks Texas
Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:17 pm
Guitaranatomy,

In today's society, frauds are easily spotted. If you've ever watched one of Benny Hinn's shows, at the very end of it is an accountability statement that his ministry is subjected to scrutinizing audits by a very large CPA firm. Now is this firm were to be caught in fraudulent practices, they would lose their licensing and someone would also go to prison.

Plus, Benny Hinn films all of his gatherings and then shows them for the world to see. I would imagine that you are basing your opinion on something you've either heard or seen on TV. But of course, the "TV" is so full of TRUTH these days, right? I would like to know on what you base your assessment of Benny Hinn. I don't know him personally, but I have been a Christian for about 12 years and have studied his teachings, and I personally cannot see what you base your assumptions on.

Let me ask you a few questions: If you had a major label band that had the privilege of flying all over the world to do its shows and you had the budget to be able to purchase a personal jet, would you say to yourself, "Gosh, that wouldn't look right in the eyes of my fans, so I will just fly commercial and go through all of the hassle of waiting in line with my band, roadies, techs, engineers, lighting crew, etc and going through security with everyone else and not try to save money by buying a personal jet where in the long run the band will save a huge amount of money and time."

The only difference between your band and Benny Hinn's ministry is that Benny Hinn's ministry depends on the gracious giving of tens of thousands of people that just want to throw their money away to a man bent on fooling everyone. And since a great portion of that money comes from Christian business men and women who give tens of thousands of dollars every year, don't you think that those business men and women would be a little duped if they found out that Benny Hinn was a big fraud.

Do you catch my drift on this? Maybe you should base your assessments of people actual fact and not what you've heard or seen on TV or what you feel.

Until otherwise proven, Benny Hinn is responsible for the evangelizing of millions of people all over the world. If it weren't for him, many people in many different countries would have never heard the Gospel of Jesus and many people would not have been healed from sickness. To me, that would be a terrible thing considering the climate in the world today. Turn the news on and see the suffering that is going on in many places of the world.

I want you to just remember something: one day and I don't know when, but one day when millions of people in the world just all of a sudden come up missing with no explanation, remember our blogging here and remember that I told you about Christ and remember I told you that he is coming for His Church and then great and horrible tribulation will begin. A so-called world leader will step on to the scene and some how barter a peace between Israel and the Arab nations. When you see these things, know that there will be incredibly perilous times ahead.

Or you could just get down on your knees and just ask Jesus to reveal himself in a very real way. I'm not trying to sell you on some religious junk where you go and sit in a pew every Sunday, sing a few hymns or songs, listen to some pastor preach a sermon and then you go back to your same ol' life.

Jesus is very real. The only reason you don't believe is because you have been sold a bad bill of goods by God only knows who. I was once like you. Nobody convinced me by proselytizing me. I saw a very real miracle happen that changed me forever. My nephew is living proof that God heals the sick and dying. I saw it with my own two eyes.

I swore I would never be one of those weak, whacked out Christians. But that time in my life was a paradigm shift where my whole life now depends on the Grace and Mercy of God. I didn't just zap and change overnight. I came to Him just as I was and let him change me. I've been drug free for almost 8 years. I was broke and living at my parent's house in my thirties. He restored me.

I now live in a $250,000 house with a recording studio in it. I have a wonderful and beautiful wife that adores me, and I have two beautiful children that I adore with all of my heart. I have two bandmates that I am best friends with. I am on my way to having the music career that I have always dreamed of but could never obtain. It is all because He answered my prayers.

#20401 by neanderpaul
Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:45 pm
Benny Hinn....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5lvU-DislkI
What Benny Hinn does to people is not directed by the bible.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FUyPjeIFKug
"Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away" (I Cor. 13: 8-10).
Miracles were to prove Jesus was the son of God, and that the Apostles were legit. Miracles have ceased. I believe Benny Hinn says he heals people. He has no such power.
Benny Hinn is not legit.

#20407 by Guitaranatomy
Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:01 pm
God Shall Add wrote:Guitaranatomy,

In today's society, frauds are easily spotted. If you've ever watched one of Benny Hinn's shows, at the very end of it is an accountability statement that his ministry is subjected to scrutinizing audits by a very large CPA firm. Now is this firm were to be caught in fraudulent practices, they would lose their licensing and someone would also go to prison.

Plus, Benny Hinn films all of his gatherings and then shows them for the world to see. I would imagine that you are basing your opinion on something you've either heard or seen on TV. But of course, the "TV" is so full of TRUTH these days, right? I would like to know on what you base your assessment of Benny Hinn. I don't know him personally, but I have been a Christian for about 12 years and have studied his teachings, and I personally cannot see what you base your assumptions on.

Let me ask you a few questions: If you had a major label band that had the privilege of flying all over the world to do its shows and you had the budget to be able to purchase a personal jet, would you say to yourself, "Gosh, that wouldn't look right in the eyes of my fans, so I will just fly commercial and go through all of the hassle of waiting in line with my band, roadies, techs, engineers, lighting crew, etc and going through security with everyone else and not try to save money by buying a personal jet where in the long run the band will save a huge amount of money and time."

The only difference between your band and Benny Hinn's ministry is that Benny Hinn's ministry depends on the gracious giving of tens of thousands of people that just want to throw their money away to a man bent on fooling everyone. And since a great portion of that money comes from Christian business men and women who give tens of thousands of dollars every year, don't you think that those business men and women would be a little duped if they found out that Benny Hinn was a big fraud.

Do you catch my drift on this? Maybe you should base your assessments of people actual fact and not what you've heard or seen on TV or what you feel.

Until otherwise proven, Benny Hinn is responsible for the evangelizing of millions of people all over the world. If it weren't for him, many people in many different countries would have never heard the Gospel of Jesus and many people would not have been healed from sickness. To me, that would be a terrible thing considering the climate in the world today. Turn the news on and see the suffering that is going on in many places of the world.

I want you to just remember something: one day and I don't know when, but one day when millions of people in the world just all of a sudden come up missing with no explanation, remember our blogging here and remember that I told you about Christ and remember I told you that he is coming for His Church and then great and horrible tribulation will begin. A so-called world leader will step on to the scene and some how barter a peace between Israel and the Arab nations. When you see these things, know that there will be incredibly perilous times ahead.

Or you could just get down on your knees and just ask Jesus to reveal himself in a very real way. I'm not trying to sell you on some religious junk where you go and sit in a pew every Sunday, sing a few hymns or songs, listen to some pastor preach a sermon and then you go back to your same ol' life.

Jesus is very real. The only reason you don't believe is because you have been sold a bad bill of goods by God only knows who. I was once like you. Nobody convinced me by proselytizing me. I saw a very real miracle happen that changed me forever. My nephew is living proof that God heals the sick and dying. I saw it with my own two eyes.

I swore I would never be one of those weak, whacked out Christians. But that time in my life was a paradigm shift where my whole life now depends on the Grace and Mercy of God. I didn't just zap and change overnight. I came to Him just as I was and let him change me. I've been drug free for almost 8 years. I was broke and living at my parent's house in my thirties. He restored me.

I now live in a $250,000 house with a recording studio in it. I have a wonderful and beautiful wife that adores me, and I have two beautiful children that I adore with all of my heart. I have two bandmates that I am best friends with. I am on my way to having the music career that I have always dreamed of but could never obtain. It is all because He answered my prayers.



Why don't you just brand a cross to my head? Lmao. You know what, no disrespect meant, man, but you are frustrating me now. First off, I know right now you are thinking that I am a lost soul. I have found my God, he just is not yours. I am not of your faith and it is annoying me now that you keep fostering your religion upon me.

I understand the Christian religion almost as thoroughly as you. My reason for knocking Benny Hinn has nothing to do with what I have heard, I was knocking him before any investigations took place. Not because of his message of God, but because of the fact he wears suits worth more than a car.

First off, you are right that bands can do what they want and not be afraid because no one is going to criticize them. On the contrary though, let us remember, the man is a religious icon and he is flourishing in wealth. Hmm... If I remember correctly that is referred to as... Oh I got it.... "Greed." He is a greedy son of a bitch who steals money from poor families and gives them false hope with his touching of peoples heads and making them drop. He is a demigod, he acts like a person with powers, he is nothing more than just a man.

I think it is nice that he has united the "Christians" all over the world, that's nice, but he is a lying peace of crap and a major hypocrite. He even looks evil damnit. Did Gandhi (Who makes Benny Hinn look like a turd on the street) profit from his preachments? No. He was a great man and he refused to live above his means, he even made his own clothes. He starved himself so his people would stop warring, he sacrificed himself for the betterment of man, I do not see that asshole, Benny Hinn, doing that. He just takes and takes and takes.

Now, onto the next part, this Armageddon stuff you keep throwing at me. I have heard it all before. I believe there is something to it, just not like you. Christians are not going to just disappear like a magic trick, you are all stuck here with us when the world freaking burns. That part of that religion is narcissistic, get over yourselves, you are no better than I just because you pray to Jesus. I am sorry, a man who kills people and prays to Jesus should not get a free pass to Heaven, that is just B.S. in my mind.

I do not like when Christians tell me that a good person is going to Hell because he did not pray to their Lord, but their people who sin all of the time may enter Heaven because they prayed to that Lord.

You can keep telling me to open my eyes, well listen buddy, my eyes are opened. You just do not like how they have opened because I do not believe like you do, you are out of your mind and an extremist. This is how wars are started, people who wear their religion like a metal of honor and march into battle, this is not the Crusades, stop the crap.

At any rate, peace, GuitarAnatomy.

#20409 by neanderpaul
Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:12 pm
The word Rapture does not appear in the bible.

#20420 by gbheil
Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:19 pm
We are having such fun with religion, perhaps I should start a thread on musicians and gun control or maybe abortion.
What would TED NUGENT do. LOL
P.S. HEY GSA, Found a lead yet?

#20454 by 7 Rocks Texas
Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:20 pm
Neanderpaul,

No, you are right, the english word "rapture does not appear in the bible. However the Greek word "harpadzp" (please forgive my spelling) does and it means to be snatched away and it is found it I Thes 4:

1Th 4:16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

GA,

Why are you so agree at me. I am merely telling you my belief. Yet I have not spoken any words to you out of anger or hatred. Yet have I falsely accused anyone from your religion or lack thereof. It's funny, buy you really didn't answer any of the question I posed to you. I find that humerous. In all of your precious 19 years you portray yourself as someone who has great knowledge and wisdom. I, like Jesus, find your beliefs foolish and unwise.

What I would like to know is this: if you one day are faced with death or the death of someone you love (God may it not be so) who will you cry out to for mercy and grace?

Anytime you wish to pick up the phone and call me and open your heart, you just call me at 214.317.3861

#20461 by PhrAiLGuitarist
Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:01 pm
God Shall Add wrote:What I would like to know is this: if you one day are faced with death or the death of someone you love (God may it not be so) who will you cry out to for mercy and grace?


Typical "fear of death" rationale, huh? It's not the fact that you were speaking to the kid of your beliefs, it's the fact that you speak of your beliefs as if they're a truth as easily mentally attained as the laws of gravity. I mean, jump off the Empire State Building and dying being equal to living your entire life serving "God" landing you in heaven? lol. I think not. You side with your Christ and your army of Christians who believe as you do to create the facade of an army against the words of one person who doesn't view this world through your eyes or the "miracles" you've witnessed. You say you were like him, then why criticize him so much and scoff back at him for not having your experiences? Do you REALLY wonder why people speak out of anger towards you? I mean, SERIOUSLY. If you don't get it, allow me to spell it out for you: Like it or not, you automatically fuse yourself with the very people who follow your belief, regardless of if they accurately or inaccurately represent it as you would like them to. That is a simple trait that exists in the human fabric. Just as you assume whatever you may assume about non-Christians who you can't IMAGINE would automatically respond defensively and out of anger, the way any individual has been attacked by a person of race, gender, or creed will ultimately define how they react towards said race, gender, or creed from that point forward.

Is that so hard to believe? Maybe you consider those people to be of a lesser mental capacity than you and if you feel that way, then more power to your blinding ignorance! Believe it or not, some people walking this earth are JUST FINE with the idea of dying. You clearly are not. When I die, I will not cry out to the God of Christianity because I have opened my heart to your God MANY times throughout my life only to end up right here. I have studied theology, I have read books such as Divine Nobodies, and I have emptily prayed night after night and used things I once considered to be "miracles" as examples of something I cannot rationalize and felt I needed to have by my side for the day that I died. Yes, the death argument is a very compelling one but I stand as someone who has been from that extremity to where I am now.

Yes, people like you anger me when you speak your belief and personal experiences from a holier-than-thou stance and your expectations of people like me who do not believe in your God is uncharacteristic of any respectable human being by anyone other than someone on your same wavelength. For everything you have figured out, tell me how you're going to feel on your death bed. Tell me that you're going to die KNOWING 100% that you're going to this "heaven" and that God finds you more worthy than a person of non-faith who dedicates their life to a much greater good than you ever could. Tell me that you will lay there and not have a single thought of doubt and hope that what you have believed is really the truth.

Bah. I'll tell you, being raised a Southern Baptist was empowering and simple in that, I never had to feel scoffed at or looked down upon by select "friends" and family. Ha. Being agnostic is as freeing as it is damning but my inner conflicts are much less than they were as a Christian. My fear of death was incredible back then. When I think about dying, I don't think about wanting to meet a creator or a God or going to some heaven that is going to make ME feel happier and better than I could ever imagine! No, I don't agree with a lot of what the bible says. I don't want an afterlife filled with promises and irrational... things. I want exactly the things here on earth that make me happy. I want the family and friends that I love and who love me. I want my computer and I want my guitar. I want music, I want to write, I want to take a drive down a highway and look at the clouds or the stars and think about the wonders of this place. I am happy RIGHT HERE and when I die, I may be PETRIFIED! I have no idea how I will feel but anything I will feel toward God is that I lived a simple life with no more greed or envy than a person of faith and that I constantly asked for understanding that my analytical brain is capable of MUCH more than spending my whole life trying to wrap my brain around blind faith.

So, you keep your faith and you take your Christianity with your would-be superior intellect through quoting the bible and you hold it close to you. Spread it as you will, do as you want with it but don't expect people to not react negatively toward you the minute you say you're a Christian. I'm not angry with you because of your belief. Whatever someone wants to believe, that's great to me but the minute you start quoting your irrationalities to me as facts and basically try to belittle me and make me feel inferior to your belief, I'm going to lash back out at you. So... go ahead and give me an equally as faithful and intelligent reply as you've given those before me. I will gladly invest of my time to bicker with you to a bitter or agreeable end with this.

Unlike you, I really do not judge you for what you believe. It's your delivery and belittling, matter-of-fact holier-than-thou attitude that I'm judging. I may die and go to hell! For all I know, your belief may just be exactly as it is and if that's it, then I will FOR ETERNITY be pissed off at God for not taking me and doing more with me than the small capacity of belittling people with something they can't grasp or should belief based on fear.

But I digress... For now...

-Stephen

#20466 by 7 Rocks Texas
Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:22 pm
Sansousheil,

Thanks for asking. Acutally, a dude form Vancouver BC inquired through our myspace site and we've been chatting for the last few days. He sounds alot like Ray Gillan of Badlands. He is planning on coming down to Dallas in about a month.

#20468 by 7 Rocks Texas
Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:37 pm
phrail,

I'm honored that you think that my words are intellectual. I've never been told that before. I don't regard myself as higher than anyone in any capacity. I struggle with being good enough or worthy. It was the Lord who made me worthy. Without him, I am nothing. I have no power, no glory, nothing. I don't see myself quite the way you do. I appreciate your words.

I do however fell quite confident that I will be at complete peace when my time comes. After all, I've already been close several times in my life. I do know the fear that comes from atleast almost dying.

You only confirm what Jesus and Paul wrote of concerning those that don't or won't even consider salvation. It is easier for you to scoff at me and speak hatefully at me than to intellectually debate salvation. You can't wrap your heart around it so you just choose to lash out. I have not spoken anything ill-willed towards anyone here. Atleast, no more than you or guitaranatomy. So, that really makes me down to earth like you guys. However, you don't want to hear what I have to say. You dismiss it as nonsense and fable. That's ok. It won't make me stop. The only way you could make me stop is to silence me forever.

The only thing that I have done here is to speak about a Loving Father who gave up His Son for you.....and you......you. Could you imagine giving up you only child....for a bunch of murdering, lying, whoring people? Takes a Big God to do that.

#20470 by PhrAiLGuitarist
Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:57 pm
God Shall Add wrote:phrail,

I'm honored that you think that my words are intellectual. I've never been told that before. I don't regard myself as higher than anyone in any capacity. I struggle with being good enough or worthy. It was the Lord who made me worthy. Without him, I am nothing. I have no power, no glory, nothing. I don't see myself quite the way you do. I appreciate your words.

I do however fell quite confident that I will be at complete peace when my time comes. After all, I've already been close several times in my life. I do know the fear that comes from atleast almost dying.

You only confirm what Jesus and Paul wrote of concerning those that don't or won't even consider salvation. It is easier for you to scoff at me and speak hatefully at me than to intellectually debate salvation. You can't wrap your heart around it so you just choose to lash out. I have not spoken anything ill-willed towards anyone here. Atleast, no more than you or guitaranatomy. So, that really makes me down to earth like you guys. However, you don't want to hear what I have to say. You dismiss it as nonsense and fable. That's ok. It won't make me stop. The only way you could make me stop is to silence me forever.

The only thing that I have done here is to speak about a Loving Father who gave up His Son for you.....and you......you. Could you imagine giving up you only child....for a bunch of murdering, lying, whoring people? Takes a Big God to do that.


So... God made you who you are. Is that before or after you accepted God?

I have considered and begged for salvation for a number of years in my life right up to about a year ago, to be honest. I've gone to great depths to beg God to allow me to comprehend Him in the capacity someone such as yourself does. All of that has changed drastically as I feel God is nothing more than a device for people to cope with the intangibles of life, such as death, etc.

If all of these things that God did are factual, then why is Christianity a belief? It takes a big "what if" God to do everything you believe. I've tried believing, I've tried EXTREMELY hard. Unfortunately, the answers I seek come from much more complex questions than it seems someone such as yourself needs. I've witnessed what some might call miracles and I've felt what I once thought to be the love of "God" but I was a weak person, petrified of death and needing something to help me cope with how unhappy my life was.

See, you're verifying exactly what I'm talking about. You speak of the writings of Jesus and Paul as if that is EXACTLY the way it is when you have no idea of my trials and tribulations, my seeking of God, etc. You have no idea who I've lost in my life or my situations. Fair enough, you didn't ask but your belief allows you to assume a WHOOOOLE LOT that you really shouldn't.

I feel more worthy of God having on his side than MANY people who claim to be on "His" side, to be honest. I could be an incredibly useful tool but God just hasn't done the right thing to utilize me. Why? Can you answer that? How do you know that I'm this unholy figure you assume me to be when I've still got... oh, I dunno... how many years until I'm your age when you experienced your turning point?

Is it God's choice to give me a chance to get to that point? How do you know I'm going to go to hell for not having the capacity right now to believe as easily as you do? Because the bible says so. Right? God is incapable of anything outside of the boundaries of how he is defined in the bible. Everything that God is and heaven in terms of being infathomable is easily forgotten about when it comes to thinking he could judge me in the end to be of better character than someone who spends their whole life lying to themselves just to be this figure of faith, right? How unfair would THAT be? I personally think that would be incredibly unfair! Impossible, though? Well, I don't know! You tell me. What about all the people who are never even given the chance to know a religion... what about those people? How does God judge people who live and die without knowing? Purgatory, perhaps? lol. There's always an irrational answer to support Christianity and I've TRIED with EVERY BIT OF MY BEING to believe it. No dice, sorry.

Your truths and your life experience is yours and you make of it what you make of it; that's great but with all of the intangibles of life and death and what every individual has to figure out in their life, how can you possibly expect whatever you expect from people who consider themselves not of faith?

I'm MORE than open to the debate of all of this, as I said in a previous post! "...to a bitter or agreeable end." What do you think that meant?

-Stephen

#20476 by johnnya
Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:11 am
love all those who hate you, forgive them father for they know not what they do, still after 2000 yrs or so, things havent changed much just for techknology and inventions of men. 8)

#20477 by 7 Rocks Texas
Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:17 am
Stephen,

As I read your reply, I feel so much compassion for you. I don't know the trials you've faced....you are right. But I want you to know, God, no matter what you believe of Him, loves you with all of his heart. I know that.

Is the bible hard to figure out? Absolutely. There is so much I don't understand. Like was the earth created in a literal 6 days and God rested on the 7th? When tested in the desert, did Satan really wisk Jesus around and show him all of those things? Will there really be a rapture? Will Jesus really come back riding on a horse?

I think what blows me away, is sometimes I lay awake in bed and I think about space and the universe. I try to imagine the vastness of space and the question of does it have some kind of border and if so what is beyond all of that? Then I put God into the puzzle and realize, if He is for real, then He is an awesomely powerful God. Much more than I can imagine.

I don't have the answers to why God has not revealed Himself to you in such a way as you could comprehend Him. He is God after all, he can do what He wants. I do know this, Stephen, there is a plan and a destiny for you. Your name, Stephen, reminds me of Stephen in the Book of Acts.

Just in case you aren't aware of him, he was stoned to death by permission of Paul, then Saul of Taursus. As Stephen was dying, he spoke that he could see into Heaven, and God revealing all things to him. He then asked God to forgive those who were killing him. Had he not done so, I believe we would not have ever been able to read the great writings of Paul. I believe that that greatly affected Paul in such that when he was on the road to Damascus, and Jesus appeared to him, Paul new who He was because he called Him, "Lord".

Open your heart again to Him, Stephen. I will pray for you and with you if you like. I'm here for you and any of you with questions, or needs. And if you are ever in Dallas, I'll go have a beer with you.

Joe

#20478 by Guitaranatomy
Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:44 am
Well, I have had a tiring day, so excuse me if my response is not as sewn together as my previous ones.

God Shall Add, I am tired of your crap. You are annoying me. I am not all knowing and wise, I have only lived 19 years, and I never professed to be the all knowing wise person of the world. But for you to ask me who would I pray to in my time of need really blows my cork, man.

You want to know who I will "cry out for mercy and grace" from? God. I believe in God, he was once considered the same God as yours, but now I question that. Do not come around here saying you have not said anything to anger anyone, you have. When you tell people they are going to Hell, be it even not in a direct assault at that person, it makes them angry.

First off, I am not going to Hell. I have done nothing wrong in my life. I do not drink, I do not do drugs, I am a hard worker, a man who cares more about his family than anything ever, and someone who has devoted his life to medicine to help his family. You call me evil for not praying to Jesus? Buddy, you have a lot of nerve. I pray to God, I am a Jew. Got it? I do not like saying it sometimes, because Christians pounce like leopards and start that "Jews for Jesus, Chosen people" sh*t. I do not want to hear it. I am a faithful Jewish man, my religion means a lot to me, and I have more faith in my thumb than you will ever have in your life. Do not come on here and tell me to call you, do not come on here and tell me to accept your God, respect other people and stop imposing your beliefs on them.

I am devoted to my people and though I tend to be assiduous when it comes to discussing my religion due to the heavy hate of it, I will now anyhow. You think you Christians are despised at times? We Jews are hated everywhere, everyone wants us dead. Well, screw them. I am not afraid of it anymore, and I am tired of people like you silencing me and trying to convert me to your freaking religion. I want nothing to do with it man, I am going to Heaven because I am a good person, I do not need your hypocritical religion to get me there. Oh, also before you start that “He must not be faithful if he does not like discussing it” crap, think again. I do not want to get shot in the face for it, there is a difference. I am extremely faithful to my religion.

You can keep your sermons to yourself, I do not need them.

TO EVERYONE ELSE: I am sorry if these statements anger any of you. I am not prejudice, I just do not like people who impose on others (As I have said now 20 times).

Sign, GuitarAnatomy.

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