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No customers, no income, no profits. Businesses run like this don't last long. It looks like a model of the former British auto industry.

Or Exxon, Verizon, GE, GM, etc...

There's an infinite variety of corporations. There's slimy ones just as there's slimy goverments, North Korea for example. Corporations are made up of people trying to make a profit. There's no harm in that. If you and a group of people have a service/and or product that people are willing to pay money for, and you make a profit, there's nothing wrong with that.
What's needed is a healthy dose of regulation that keeps corporations from screwing employees and the customers who purchase goods and services from them. There's a constant battle between government and the private sector. The Occupy Wall Street movement was an absolute joke because they offered zero solutions to the"problems." I voted for Obama because, frankly, I had a vested interest. My son is autistic and romney and Ryan scared me to death. I predict when Obamacare is fully implemented and the bugs are worked out we will see its true value. The health insurance companies and drug companies are going to have a very difficult time screwing us, the customers, after January 1, 2014.
That's what I'm talking about. Companies still making a reasonable profit and not screwing us with the right dose of regulation....

There's an infinite variety of corporations. There's slimy ones just as there's slimy goverments, North Korea for example. Corporations are made up of people trying to make a profit. There's no harm in that. If you and a group of people have a service/and or product that people are willing to pay money for, and you make a profit, there's nothing wrong with that.
What's needed is a healthy dose of regulation that keeps corporations from screwing employees and the customers who purchase goods and services from them. There's a constant battle between government and the private sector. The Occupy Wall Street movement was an absolute joke because they offered zero solutions to the"problems." I voted for Obama because, frankly, I had a vested interest. My son is autistic and romney and Ryan scared me to death. I predict when Obamacare is fully implemented and the bugs are worked out we will see its true value. The health insurance companies and drug companies are going to have a very difficult time screwing us, the customers, after January 1, 2014.
That's what I'm talking about. Companies still making a reasonable profit and not screwing us with the right dose of regulation....

Obamacare will eventually collapse because the middlemen are still involved.
Insurance companies make a profit by denying service, not supplying it.
They lose money supplying service.
Until they are removed from the equation, Americans are going to continue overpaying for inadequate healthcare, plain and simple.
If Obama had simply expanded Medicare for anyone who wanted it, he could have guaranteed health coverage for everyone at a fraction of the cost imposed by corporate healthcare.

No customers, no income, no profits. Businesses run like this don't last long. It looks like a model of the former British auto industry.

Much truth written here. Backs up Mike. I don't disagree.
The problem here is that our founding fathers were concerned about about separation of church and state... but did not understand the importance of separation of business and state.

The dynamics of what is happening to the average American are being completely missed.

I have tried to explain this before. I am not going to again.
If every one is satisfied having your American dollar devaluated to the point... That you are happy paying 4 dollars for gasoline or milk... or even a doctors visit that should have only cost 50 bucks but is now... Not covered by a CO-PAYMENT.

Now you are starting to get the drift. I really feel bad for all the Americans that have bought into the lies and deception. Every one is to blame for allowing this. Most of you still don't even see it, or refuse to believe it.

I'm not going to lecture... This is so far out of control, I don't have any answers. Maybe some of you intellectuals with extreme college education could pull their heads out of their butts and start working on some real solutions that... Understand the whole problem.

I have a solution.
Do away with the federal reserve.

And... I don't know if you guys are aware or not, but "corporations" are accountable to no one and nothing but the shareholders.
Corporations are bad. There is no accountability.

They exist in large part because of the freaking lawsuit lawyers.

I have a solution.
Do away with the federal reserve.

And... I don't know if you guys are aware or not, but "corporations" are accountable to no one and nothing but the shareholders.
Corporations are bad. There is no accountability.

They exist in large part because of the freaking lawsuit lawyers.

Yeah but you know GT... If you put all the evil corporations out of business, then you put all those people out of work.

The point being missed is that if you are not actually creating any real goods or services, for profit... then you are not creating any TAXABLE WEALTH.

Without any REAL taxable wealth our government has established an unsustainable system, because there really is not one bit of new goods or tradable items that will contribute to this silly little thing called Gross Domestic Product.

That is also what I would call taxable wealth. I'm not going to explain this all over again,but... Any government, never creates TAXABLE WEALTH.

They only spend it. That new bridge going up in your home town was payed for by the evil corporations in the form of taxes. Even worse is the money they couldn't pay their employees, because of excessive taxes.

Maybe thats why so many evil corporations are just moving out of the country, destroying jobs, and looking to the government to put all those people back to work. It is just a big F.U.

Government is not the solution. Government is the problem. Another 4 years will bear this out if you are allowed to live.

I understand that they provide jobs.

We need businesses and industry, but the "corporation" is flawed and inherently bad because there is little to no accountability.

You know, responsibility and accountability. That old fashioned stuff.