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I'll take the blame for Mars...

i mean - what other possible cause could there be for warming right?

Oh that big yellow thing in the sky? Nah....

Talbot

Well the sun is getting hotter so naturally all planets would have an increased average global temperature. But if you want to see what the earth could look like someday, look at our sister planet Venus. Out of control greenhouse effect caused by unchecked CO2. Those Venusians must be driving old clunkers.

OMG! The sky is falling!... the sky is falling!. Ya know, Jimmy boyeeeee, for a guy who doesn't believe in the invisible man in the sky, there's more contradiction in your ethos than a baptist porn star at a catholic school PTA meeting... LOL!

Plainly put, you are full of sh*t.

didja know?

Planet earth - part of the milky way. In a small solar system. Without Jupiter, we wouldn't be in the orbit we're in, and animal life wouldn't exist. Poised between venus and mars, we're at just the right distance from the sun to not fry or deep freeze. And even still, a few thousand miles difference makes all the difference between incredibly hot summers and incredibly cold winters, all based on our tilt.

The planet spins, the sun spins, our planet goes in circles around it a unimaginable speed.

So in this galaxy, we're on the far tip of one of the spiral arms, swinging around the universe at an even more unimaginable speed-

In the galaxy, we aren't in the city or burbs either- being on the tip of the spiral arm, we're about as far from rest of the galaxy as is possible, living in the most rural of rural locations...

Which is why we see so few stars vs. what you see on the milky way pictures- We're stranded, in the middle of nowhere, all alone. Aliens probably don't visit us simply because we are too far away from the party. They probably don't even know we exist. Think about it- if you lived in the center of the galaxy, and millions of solar systems were within a visible range, why would you even send a probe out to the far end? perhaps they sent one, but to a different arm of the spiral?

In the end, there's no other habitable planets anywhere near us that would be explorable, much less able to be colonized before we inevitably destroy ourselves.

It's a zero-sum existence. Mankind will likely be gone for hundreds of millions of years before any intelligent life discovered our existence, and at that point, they would study "artifacts" in the same manner we study the dinosaurs.. with fascination, as well as to discover we were too stupid as a race to survive our own intelligence.

How's that for some upbeat philosophy?

Spot on Kramer. But being on the edge of the galaxy may be why life evolved at all; too close to the center of the Milky Way and we would have been bathed in x-rays and gamma rays from the the black hole at our galactic center. We are actually quite lucky to have eight planets and millions of asteroids; we have all the raw materials we'll ever need right here. The distances between stars is immense; I don't think we will have to worry about "visitors".

Spot on Kramer. But being on the edge of the galaxy may be why life evolved at all; too close to the center of the Milky Way and we would have been bathed in x-rays and gamma rays from the the black hole at our galactic center. We are actually quite lucky to have eight planets and millions of asteroids; we have all the raw materials we'll ever need right here. The distances between stars is immense; I don't think we will have to worry about "visitors".

Damn.

And T'Pol made me wanna try that Vulcan booty.

Just be careful with those Klingon chicks.

I don't "buy into" facts. They are just that, facts. Last year was the warmest year on record. Perhaps you missed the part where I said it was debatable whether or not humans have anything to do with it. But the facts remain. You cannot change facts by bringing other unrelated facts into the argument. And even if we don't have any direct effect on global temperature, reducing greenhouse gasses and pollution is a good thing.

All facts are interpreted. No single fact proves something on its own - it requires a network of presuppositions to contextualize anything. The question is, which facts are dismissed by your presuppositions as being inconsequential, or make you favor one fact over and against another?

Reducing pollution is a good thing. But taxing people for things they rely on to get by in modern society is not a moral solution. I think that is the main concern of those who don't agree with global warming advocates - they tend to use it (among other debatable topics) as a rationale for limiting people's liberty.

What's wrong with society going extinct? Not that I want it, but isn't that the story of the survival of the fittest? To what end do you aspire?

didja know?

Planet earth - part of the milky way. In a small solar system. Without Jupiter, we wouldn't be in the orbit we're in, and animal life wouldn't exist. Poised between venus and mars, we're at just the right distance from the sun to not fry or deep freeze. And even still, a few thousand miles difference makes all the difference between incredibly hot summers and incredibly cold winters, all based on our tilt.

The planet spins, the sun spins, our planet goes in circles around it a unimaginable speed.

So in this galaxy, we're on the far tip of one of the spiral arms, swinging around the universe at an even more unimaginable speed-

In the galaxy, we aren't in the city or burbs either- being on the tip of the spiral arm, we're about as far from rest of the galaxy as is possible, living in the most rural of rural locations...

Which is why we see so few stars vs. what you see on the milky way pictures- We're stranded, in the middle of nowhere, all alone. Aliens probably don't visit us simply because we are too far away from the party. They probably don't even know we exist. Think about it- if you lived in the center of the galaxy, and millions of solar systems were within a visible range, why would you even send a probe out to the far end? perhaps they sent one, but to a different arm of the spiral?

In the end, there's no other habitable planets anywhere near us that would be explorable, much less able to be colonized before we inevitably destroy ourselves.

It's a zero-sum existence. Mankind will likely be gone for hundreds of millions of years before any intelligent life discovered our existence, and at that point, they would study "artifacts" in the same manner we study the dinosaurs.. with fascination, as well as to discover we were too stupid as a race to survive our own intelligence.

How's that for some upbeat philosophy?

What's wrong with society going extinct? Not that I want it, but isn't that the story of the survival of the fittest? To what end do you aspire?

I wouldn't mind.

Night of the Comet is one of my favorite movies.

I'd kinda like having the planet all to myself.

Good old Mr. Wizard demonstrating the mass of water in relationship to ice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKiq5EwkzDg

Sublimation causes glacial transformations over time.

The temperature of the earth as reported is inaccurate due the fact the thermometers involved are broken, and homogenization of temperature trends 2/3 times result in an increase of the reported temperatures.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/17/n ... enization/

Naturally, when one scientific crowd bucks against the main-stream of throught, Kuhns theory kicks in and its contendors are ridiculed as "non" or "pseudo" scientists.

ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ushcn/ ... al2010.pdf

But bias aside, a good deal of the weather stations used in these scientific studies are documented as being in dis-repair, which means someone has to scaffold up the data with conjecture.

http://surfacestations.org/

There are too many unanswered questions concerning the veracity of the data involved in making bold fact claims about the world's temperature trends, and certainly too many variables involved to blame human activity as contributing to the degree that sea levels rise or fall.

What's wrong with society going extinct? Not that I want it, but isn't that the story of the survival of the fittest? To what end do you aspire?

I wouldn't mind.

Night of the Comet is one of my favorite movies.

I'd kinda like having the planet all to myself.

That and Dawn of the Dead (the mall scene) were great movies simply cuz you get access to all that stuff!

Spot on Kramer. But being on the edge of the galaxy may be why life evolved at all; too close to the center of the Milky Way and we would have been bathed in x-rays and gamma rays from the the black hole at our galactic center. We are actually quite lucky to have eight planets and millions of asteroids; we have all the raw materials we'll ever need right here. The distances between stars is immense; I don't think we will have to worry about "visitors".

Damn.

And T'Pol made me wanna try that Vulcan booty.

Mikey you should check out the episode "Carbon Creek" if you like T'Pol!

Spot on Kramer. But being on the edge of the galaxy may be why life evolved at all; too close to the center of the Milky Way and we would have been bathed in x-rays and gamma rays from the the black hole at our galactic center. We are actually quite lucky to have eight planets and millions of asteroids; we have all the raw materials we'll ever need right here. The distances between stars is immense; I don't think we will have to worry about "visitors".

Damn.

And T'Pol made me wanna try that Vulcan booty.

Mikey you should check out the episode "Carbon Creek" if you like T'Pol!

We have every episode and film of Star Trek, and a buttload of books and comics.
Most of our collectibles have been destroyed by one of the cats, tho'.

Spot on Kramer. But being on the edge of the galaxy may be why life evolved at all; too close to the center of the Milky Way and we would have been bathed in x-rays and gamma rays from the the black hole at our galactic center. We are actually quite lucky to have eight planets and millions of asteroids; we have all the raw materials we'll ever need right here. The distances between stars is immense; I don't think we will have to worry about "visitors".

Damn.

And T'Pol made me wanna try that Vulcan booty.

Mikey you should check out the episode "Carbon Creek" if you like T'Pol!

We have every episode and film of Star Trek, and a buttload of books and comics.
Most of our collectibles have been destroyed by one of the cats, tho'.

There is a scene where T'pol has to steal some cloths and she is behind a sheet hanging on a clothsline changing with her naked silhouette. You'll rewind and rewatch that scene a couple of times!

There is a scene where T'pol has to steal some cloths and she is behind a sheet hanging on a clothsline changing with her naked silhouette. You'll rewind and rewatch that scene a couple of times!

The episode where she f*cks Trip shows her completely nude (from behind anyway).