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#202970 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:28 pm
Mike Nobody wrote:


Yep, that's all you ever say.

I realize you think ridicule is a legitimate answer, but point out that you have nothing intellectual to add to any discussion. You are incapable of forming a response that resembles anything factual or true.

In short, you're a fool



Why would anything you say matter?

#202973 by jimmydanger
Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:37 pm
Hmmm, looks like he said something, maybe you better go look again.

#202974 by Mike Nobody
Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:41 pm
A REAL fool sees only what they WANT to see.

#202977 by Planetguy
Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:51 pm
i think he said something about "ridicule".

..clearly demonstrating he has no understanding of irony, hypocrisy, and no doubt never has heard the expression "the pot calling the kettle black".

typical neo con behavior. one set of rules for themselves....another for everyone else. :cry:

#202978 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:55 pm
And yet none of you can refute anything I've said without resorting to ridicule.


That speaks volumes more than your empty words.



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#202981 by Mike Nobody
Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:02 pm
yod wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Most religious people have been taught (brainwashed?) that all morality comes from God, or even sillier the Bible. Morality is the collective beliefs of a society and is subjective. Having it "wrote down" just makes it convenient for some folks.




The reason why that is said is because it's absolutely true.


Apart from the universal law of God, there is no such thing as right or wrong. The morality of the bible is "righteousness" whereas most of what is called "morality" today is a societal judgment that can vary from geographical location to human preference.


Let's see here.
"Morality", according to you is arbitrary, depending on a person's location.
Unlike "Righteousness" which is derived from the universal law of GOD.

Okay.

Which version?

Which interpretation of GOD's law is the correct one?

Christians cannot even agree upon this among themselves and you're gonna try holding THAT up to me as your example to follow?

You're just plain FULL-OF-SH!T, and maybe a little nuts on top.

#202982 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:05 pm
And you are a vulgar simpleton who can't debate using facts, so you resort to ridicule. I can push back if that's how you want to play. I'd rather have an intelligent discussion if SOMEONE on your side has any intelligence.


It is absolutely true that all judgments between right and wrong comes from God.


If you want to argue that some christians have a selective interpretation, I'd have no problem agreeing with that. ALL humans do.





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#202983 by Mike Nobody
Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:12 pm
yod wrote:And you are a vulgar simpleton who can't debate using facts, so you resort to ridicule. I can push back if that's how you want to play. I'd rather have an intelligent discussion if SOMEONE on your side has any intelligence.


It is absolutely true that all judgments between right and wrong comes from God.


If you want to argue that some christians have a selective interpretation, I'd have no problem agreeing with that. ALL humans do.
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You've already called me a fool and a vulgar simpleton.
You've resorted to ridicule already.
Am I making sense?
Do I stutter?
YOU ARE FULL OF SH!T.
That is a FACT.
I'm not ridiculing you.

#202985 by Planetguy
Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:17 pm
yod wrote:And you are a vulgar simpleton who can't debate using facts, so you resort to ridicule. I can push back if that's how you want to play. I'd rather have an intelligent discussion if SOMEONE on your side has any intelligence.


the problem yod....is that i can't recall not one of your numerous posts where you've ballyhoo'd your points of view where you HAVEN'T dismissively tossed off an offhand derogatory comment about those who don't share your views. seems you just can't help yourself when it comes to name calling.

and yet YOU cry "foul" the loudest when the favor is returned your way! so please stop bitching about folks resorting to ridicule when they're simply returning the same derision you so easily spew.


ok...you're on the mount sermonizing about 'facts', right? if below is 'absolutely true" and a "fact" as you state..please...PROVE IT.

i'll be waiting for your "proof". (a long wait no doubt)

yod wrote:It is absolutely true that all judgments between right and wrong comes from God.

#203015 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:32 am
It was Jimmy who made the proposition that morality doesn't come from God, so the burden of proof is his (or anyone who agrees) to make.


FACT: Apart from God there is no such thing as right or wrong.



If we are not created in His image, then man is just another animal. Animals also have "a" morality within their social structures. Killing each other is neither right nor wrong for them.

So answer a simple question: What makes human morality any different than a pack of wild dogs?

Please try to answer the question with a thoughtful response, instead of simply ridiculing that which contradicts your vain philosophy.

We both know you can't do it, so you'll misdirect with ridicule or whatever.






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#203018 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:40 am
Mike Nobody wrote:
yod wrote:And you are a vulgar simpleton who can't debate using facts, so you resort to ridicule. I can push back if that's how you want to play. I'd rather have an intelligent discussion if SOMEONE on your side has any intelligence.


It is absolutely true that all judgments between right and wrong comes from God.


If you want to argue that some christians have a selective interpretation, I'd have no problem agreeing with that. ALL humans do.
.


You've already called me a fool and a vulgar simpleton.
You've resorted to ridicule already.
Am I making sense?
Do I stutter?
YOU ARE FULL OF SH!T.
That is a FACT.
I'm not ridiculing you.




I'm returning to you the only thing you seem to understand, ONLY because you can't (or won't) attempt to have a conversation based on anything true or factual.

You act like an immature teenager still living with your mama. Grow up, little boy.

#203019 by Mike Nobody
Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:43 am
yod wrote:It was Jimmy who made the proposition that morality doesn't come from God, so the burden of proof is his (or anyone who agrees) to make.


FACT: Apart from God there is no such thing as right or wrong.



If we are not created in His image, then man is just another animal. Animals also have "a" morality within their social structures.

So answer a simple question: What makes human morality any different than a pack of wild dogs?

Please try to answer the question with a thoughtful response, instead of simply ridiculing that which contradicts your vain philosophy.


Actually, you just told him that his interpretation of your viewpoint was "absolutely true."
Your viewpoint was under critique.
He did not make a declarative statement beyond criticizing your viewpoint.
The burdon of proof is still yours, mon frère!
In fact, you just reiterated your viewpoint as FACT, which it is NOT.
Calling something a "fact" doesn't MAKE it one.
But, the basics of logic and reason often escape the neoconservative mentality.

What makes human morality any different than a pack of wild dogs?
Evolution.
It's arguable that human behavior is/was as base as a pack of wild dogs under stressful circumstances.
But, we grew in a different direction than they did.
Simple as that.

#203026 by Planetguy
Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:41 am
yod wrote:It was Jimmy who made the proposition that morality doesn't come from God, so the burden of proof is his (or anyone who agrees) to make.


and why is it on jimmy to disprove it? right, because YOU can't prove morality DOES come from god. weak attempted sidestep there.


FACT: Apart from God there is no such thing as right or wrong.


really? so you don't believe it's wrong to walk across the street and rape your neighbor's 13 yr old daughter? perhaps you think there might be a instance and situation where that might be viewed as "right"? if so...please elaborate.

or do you believe that the only reason for you knowing it's wrong is because of some morality gifted to us from god. poppycock...that would mean atheists would be confused on the issue. wrong-o.


If we are not created in His image, then man is just another animal. Animals also have "a" morality within their social structures. Killing each other is neither right nor wrong for them.

So answer a simple question: What makes human morality any different than a pack of wild dogs?


well, duh...because we are NOT a pack of wild dogs. because we have evolved a little further. that's evolution. it has nothing to do w any morality god has invested us with.

Please try to answer the question with a thoughtful response, instead of simply ridiculing that which contradicts your vain philosophy.

We both know you can't do it, so you'll misdirect with ridicule or whatever.


WE BOTH know nothing of the sort. you, as usual ASSume you "know". ok, so i answered your posed questions w/o ridicule and w/o name calling. let's see if you can do the same.






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Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:03 am
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