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#202772 by J-HALEY
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:27 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I literally live in the boondocks, not a village, but miles from the closest village, farmers all around, raising mainly pasture fed beef cattle but some dairy farms remain, ELECTRICITY IS SUBSIDIZED here cause I get it from a rural electric co-operative.. it is dirt cheap to heat with electricity here thanks to taxpayers helping.. nothing like living off subsidies..


Yeah rub it in! :lol: how much do you spend on gas going back and forth into "town"! I know how you folks in the boonie's can live off practicaly nothing. When I was growing up my grandparents lived that way. I use to freak out on their shopping list
1) 10lbs flour
2) 10lbs. cornmeal
3) 50lbs chickenfeed
4) 50lbs. grain for cattle (a real treat for them) they grazed pasture most
5) 10lbs. coffee
6) 1 box shotgun shells
7) usually some kind of building supplies.

They grew or made most everything else. Times were so mush simpler then. As I age I want to return to this way of life. I want chickens and a garden so bad I CAN'T STAND IT! In fact its about time to start tomatos :)

#202776 by Kramerguy
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:29 pm
J-HALEY wrote:Grant, you pay based on killowatt hourly usage. The T.U.C. (Texas Utility Commision) has basically sold us up a river! The big power companies have decided to change out our perfectly good meters with the new Digital meters. You have NO choice. people here are suing over it. One friend of mine is in a wheelchair and permantly disabled. He set out every day waiting for the company to TRY and change his meter LOL! Any way you have no choice but to BUY a new meter. The power company sold the P.U.C. on the idea because they are supposedly more accurate (wink wink) and the power company can monitor your usage round the clock, turn off power, turn on power, monitor outages. Yeah right? They are now implenting a program where during peak usage hrs the elec. cost more. This way they can SCREW the public out of more money.

This is BAD NEWS for grow houses. Those guys use a humongous amount of elect. and it alerts the police. The other day some dumbass was electrocuted trying to jack leg electric by bi-passing a meter!


Sounds similar to what they've done up here.. They charge individually per KWh, which I understand- to each what he uses.. Then they announced electricity "Choice" which turned out to be a HUGE payday for the major providers- you sign up for a cheaper service and the main provider doubles your transmission and distribution charges.. ultimately resulting in your bill going UP by 1/3 to 1/2.. and you are STUCK with it until the end of the contract period (1-2 years, works like cellphone contracts) OH YEAH, they charge separately for transmission and distribution.. WTF? Aren't they the same thing?? And that's on top of the KWh charges, usually each charge roughly equals the KWh charge.. so you use $100 worth of KWh, your bill is $300 + 10,000 vague service charges and taxes, so make it $400.

It's a scam, and the PUC just keeps passing new "regulations" that basically give the power companies more power to screw us out of money.

Just two months ago, I was struggling to pay my bill, called PECO, asked for an "arrangement" where I take my current bill and spread the balance out over the next 4 bills. They were glad to do it, real nice and all.

Then I got a 10-day shut off notice- to make a $450 deposit within 10 days for the reason of "late payment" .. the amount I spread out over the 4 next bills was only $320something!!!! So .. they basically decided that since I'm struggling to pay my $320 bill, that I should be extorted to pay $450 because I had the audacity to ask for some leeway.

I wish for the most evil things to happen to this company, things that I'm afraid to type in public for fear that the guv would label me a turrist.
Last edited by Kramerguy on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

#202777 by jw123
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:30 pm
Haley I chopped cotton as a kid, picked okra and squash, I dont think I want to go back to all of that, thank you very much!

#202780 by J-HALEY
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:32 pm
Kramerguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:Grant, you pay based on killowatt hourly usage. The T.U.C. (Texas Utility Commision) has basically sold us up a river! The big power companies have decided to change out our perfectly good meters with the new Digital meters. You have NO choice. people here are suing over it. One friend of mine is in a wheelchair and permantly disabled. He set out every day waiting for the company to TRY and change his meter LOL! Any way you have no choice but to BUY a new meter. The power company sold the P.U.C. on the idea because they are supposedly more accurate (wink wink) and the power company can monitor your usage round the clock, turn off power, turn on power, monitor outages. Yeah right? They are now implenting a program where during peak usage hrs the elec. cost more. This way they can SCREW the public out of more money.

This is BAD NEWS for grow houses. Those guys use a humongous amount of elect. and it alerts the police. The other day some dumbass was electrocuted trying to jack leg electric by bi-passing a meter!


Sounds similar to what they've done up here.. They charge individually per KWh, which I understand- to each what he uses.. Then they announced electricity "Choice" which turned out to be a HUGE payday for the major providers- you sign up for a cheaper service and the main provider doubles your transmission and distribution charges.. ultimately resulting in your bill going UP by 1/3 to 1/2.. and you are STUCK with it until the end of the contract period (1-2 years, works like cellphone contracts) OH YEAH, they charge separately for transmission and distribution.. WTF? Aren't they the same thing?? And that's on top of the KWh charges, usually each charge roughly equals the KWh charge.. so you use $100 worth of KWh, your bill is $300 + 10,000 vague service charges and taxes, so make it $400.

It's a scam, and the PUC just keeps passing new "regulations" that basically give the power companies more power to screw us out of money.

Just two months ago, I was struggling to pay my bill, called PECO, asked for an "arrangement" where I take my current bill and spread the balance out over the next 4 bills. They were glad to do it, real nice and all.

Then I got a 10-day shut off notice- to make a $450 deposit within 10 days for the reason of "late payment" .. the amount I spread out over the 4 next bills was only $320something!!!! So .. they basically decided that since I'm struggling to pay my $320 bill, that I should be extorted to pay $450 because I had the audacity to ask for some leeway.

I wish for the most evil things to happen to this company, things that I'm afraid to type in public for fear that the guv would label me a turrist.

Well thats something we both agree on Kramer! EXACTLY same thing here! :evil:

#202784 by Mike Nobody
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:39 pm
A lot of my family grew up on farms in TN & KY.
Not for me.
I'm too much of a city boy.
If it weren't far from somewhere with good restaurants, live shows, and record stores I could MAYBE do it.
I'd LIKE the isolation, if I could still have some civilization when I wanted it.

I thought it would be nice someday to buy an old farmhouse and fill it with abandoned cats.
Have a cat farm!
I'd have a home recording studio inside, away from any neighbors.
That would be pretty cool.

Tragic Mulatto - Farm
http://youtu.be/zRgt451tfkk

#202787 by jw123
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:47 pm
It only takes having one female cat around and you will have a cat farm.

My wife raises rabbits, fortunately we got them fixed.

Im lucky, I live on a farm, in the middle of nowhere, but Im within a mile of I-40 and can be in Memphis in 30 minutes, plenty of music, shopping, Mc Dees LOL!

#202789 by J-HALEY
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:51 pm
jw123 wrote:Haley I chopped cotton as a kid, picked okra and squash, I dont think I want to go back to all of that, thank you very much!


I haven't chopped cotton but I have done everything else. I use to spend every summer I could at their place in Arkansas!

I know there will come a time in the next 10 years where I'll be to old to rock n roll so thats the life I plan to live. There are lots of places around here where you can buy a place and do all that and still be close to the city!

#202790 by Mike Nobody
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:52 pm
jw123 wrote:It only takes having one female cat around and you will have a cat farm.

My wife raises rabbits, fortunately we got them fixed.

Im lucky, I live on a farm, in the middle of nowhere, but Im within a mile of I-40 and can be in Memphis in 30 minutes, plenty of music, shopping, Mc Dees LOL!


I use to raise rabbits... until the neighborhood assholes killed them.

#202794 by DainNobody
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:56 pm
California Whites is the way to go.. trouble is rabbit meat is not real desired by Americans but great market in Canada for rabbit meat (French-Canadians). I used to raise them but it's like a monopoly as far as buyer for the meat/rabbits goes.. 1 buyer (Palfrey's) does not guarantee you a good price

#202798 by jw123
Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:02 pm
She raises them for pleasure, they are her babies.

We actually experimented with the first ones we had and let them loose in the yard, I would go on daily coyote runs with a gun, run off dogs and all sorts of animals, they were pretty cool, would come up on the porch with us when we were drinking coffee, kinda like little puppies.

Sadly an owl found them and cleaned them out, but one had a little before all of this, I built a really nice hutch, 3 stay in it, and she has 3 more in the garage.

When we get into discusions about me playing music, I just say look its no different than your bunnies or your flowers, thats what you are into, Im into music.

But I like the bunnies they are pretty cool to watch.

I always had old hound dogs around the house, so I always had a pet, but it is different having those bunnies.

#202808 by DainNobody
Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:11 pm
yes, rabbits are nice, but like you, I had something attack them through their mesh screen pen.. the bloody sight upon discovery was enough to turn my stomach, since mother rabbit was badly wounded and died days later and the babies maimed and killed too.. never want to relive that , and to this day don't know what the attacker was..had to be small, maybe a weasel?

http://growers.pel-freez.com/

#202831 by DainNobody
Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:08 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I literally live in the boondocks, not a village, but miles from the closest village, farmers all around, raising mainly pasture fed beef cattle but some dairy farms remain, ELECTRICITY IS SUBSIDIZED here cause I get it from a rural electric co-operative.. it is dirt cheap to heat with electricity here thanks to taxpayers helping.. nothing like living off subsidies..


Yeah rub it in! :lol: how much do you spend on gas going back and forth into "town"! I know how you folks in the boonie's can live off practicaly nothing. When I was growing up my grandparents lived that way. I use to freak out on their shopping list
1) 10lbs flour
2) 10lbs. cornmeal
3) 50lbs chickenfeed
4) 50lbs. grain for cattle (a real treat for them) they grazed pasture most
5) 10lbs. coffee
6) 1 box shotgun shells
7) usually some kind of building supplies.

They grew or made most everything else. Times were so mush simpler then. As I age I want to return to this way of life. I want chickens and a garden so bad I CAN'T STAND IT! In fact its about time to start tomatos :)
yes Jeff, you are about right, but I try to acquire all things on my shopping list at whateveer auction events are scheduled for the coming week.. auctions really slow down in the midst of winter and hence I find time to waste here .. I will put up a photo perhaps of my $2.00 purchase of a 10 LB. case of microwave popcorn.. organic too! LOL.. I already flipped my $2.00 Ruger .45 ACP 8 round magazine acquisition at a Marshfield, Mo. auction this past Saturday on ebay with a buy it now ! still got the hardshell case and it's on ebay right now, also with a buy it now.. did I mention the 40 PARKER Vector rollerball pens in original blisterpacks for $2.00 too? try $4.48 each!.. and PARKER pens shut down production for good in 2009

#202850 by MikeTalbot
Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:06 am
MikeN

You have described Boise! Lots of things to do and see downtown, and that splendid isolation is right next door. Great town.

Talbot

#202852 by PaperDog
Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:13 am
jw123 wrote:She raises them for pleasure, they are her babies.

We actually experimented with the first ones we had and let them loose in the yard, I would go on daily coyote runs with a gun, run off dogs and all sorts of animals, they were pretty cool, would come up on the porch with us when we were drinking coffee, kinda like little puppies.

Sadly an owl found them and cleaned them out, but one had a little before all of this, I built a really nice hutch, 3 stay in it, and she has 3 more in the garage.

When we get into discusions about me playing music, I just say look its no different than your bunnies or your flowers, thats what you are into, Im into music.

But I like the bunnies they are pretty cool to watch.

I always had old hound dogs around the house, so I always had a pet, but it is different having those bunnies.



I Was gonna build a bunny hutch, But the Contractor was charging too much...and when the word got out That i couldnt afford it...all the girls I had lined up bailed on me...
:P

#202855 by Mike Nobody
Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:23 am
The Voluptuous Horror of Karen Black "Alaska"
http://youtu.be/JUrokD1Uggk

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