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#202636 by Deadguitars
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:01 pm
jw123 wrote:If some of you guys put in as much effort trying to better your lives as you do trying to one up the next guy on here, you might be doing better.

Sadly the pay isnt that good dissing other people.

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#202639 by DainNobody
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:37 pm
my nerves are frayed, and I need to get away from this board before I go "dylan" on somebody that does not deserve it... buh bye!

#202641 by PaperDog
Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:00 pm
Nobody here is successful, until you all realize that your possessions are meaningless, and that putting them before the only thing that really matters is a futile endeavor leading to a pointless life and even a less profound death.

Mike N, Please read this very carefully and open your mind: 8)

You are probably the only guy on this forum who is actually prepared, capable and equipped to survive destitution, and real adversity. I'm quite certain the rest of the peanut gallery would cry like a bunch of divas on a cycle...if everything they had today was taken away from them... and they had to endure what you have been through.

You are actually within reach of being the biggest winner of them all, Mike..if you would just allow yourself the luxary...

For the record, we were made to be prosperous, somehow, some way...each of us... (That ryhmes, you know) . I get that from that lil book you detest so much...:D But, frankly, its workin for me... You should know, there was time in my life, when I did live out of car. It was brief...Lets just say I was compelled to change my situation...and so, I did.

#202651 by Mike Nobody
Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:31 pm
PaperDog wrote:Nobody here is successful, until you all realize that your possessions are meaningless, and that putting them before the only thing that really matters is a futile endeavor leading to a pointless life and even a less profound death.

Mike N, Please read this very carefully and open your mind: 8)

You are probably the only guy on this forum who is actually prepared, capable and equipped to survive destitution, and real adversity. I'm quite certain the rest of the peanut gallery would cry like a bunch of divas on a cycle...if everything they had today was taken away from them... and they had to endure what you have been through.

You are actually within reach of being the biggest winner of them all, Mike..if you would just allow yourself the luxary...

For the record, we were made to be prosperous, somehow, some way...each of us... (That ryhmes, you know) . I get that from that lil book you detest so much...:D But, frankly, its workin for me... You should know, there was time in my life, when I did live out of car. It was brief...Lets just say I was compelled to change my situation...and so, I did.


Hopefully, you were still in Texas when you lived in your car.
Michigan winters are a bitch!
My girlfriend & I have both done it.

Yes, we've had to liquidate all of our possessions before.
When life really knocks you on your ass, it is often very hard to get back up.
A lot of the homeless die from exposure, malnutrition, or disease if they can't fix their situation.
It's a sad shame too.
Many of them are nice, intelligent, people.

I'd like to think that I can still accomplish what I want to do in this life.
With some work and a little luck, maybe I will.
Time will only tell.

#202655 by jimmydanger
Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:38 pm
Happiness is the only real measure of success. As long as you're happy it doesn't matter if you have any possessions at all.

#202671 by Cajundaddy
Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:09 pm
Unhappiness is a choice and essentially self-inflicted. We choose to be happy/unhappy but this is not intuitive and misunderstood by many.

Paul understood this while imprisoned in the Roman dungeons.

This guy understands it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G31YW1ecX0

Choose wisely.

#202672 by Mike Nobody
Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:17 pm
Thejohnny7band wrote:Unhappiness is a choice and essentially self-inflicted. We choose to be happy/unhappy but this is not intuitive and misunderstood by many.

Paul understood this while imprisoned in the Roman dungeons.

This guy understands it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G31YW1ecX0

Choose wisely.


The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
[a man puts a body on the cart]
Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one.
The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: What?
Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not.
The Dead Collector: He isn't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm getting better.
Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I don't want to go on the cart.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby.
The Dead Collector: I can't take him.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel fine.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor.
The Dead Collector: I can't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round?
The Dead Collector: Thursday.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I think I'll go for a walk.
Large Man with Dead Body: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel happy. I feel happy.
[the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club]
Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much.
The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
Large Man with Dead Body: Right.

#202735 by Kramerguy
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:29 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Happiness is the only real measure of success. As long as you're happy it doesn't matter if you have any possessions at all.


I consider the ability to provide a basic living as being successful- a home of some sort (at least a rented room or some form of roof over your head), electricity, food, healthcare, some form of communication and transportation (public or private, whatever is available).. which comes down to "means" to provide these things for yourself/family. This boils down to money.

So being successful is to be able to make enough money to survive, by today's standards. If everyone was living in caves, hunting, and creating fire by smashing rocks together, it'd be a different measure, for sure.

#202738 by jimmydanger
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:52 pm
By possessions I mean things beyond a place to live. Technically you only need air, water and food to survive but you would live like an animal. There are people that have gone back to nature but you'll find even they have knives and other modern implements. Yes you need money to live even modestly well by our modern standards. But do I need 7 TVs, two of them 65" inch home theaters? Of course not but more stuff gives the illusion of happiness.

#202745 by J-HALEY
Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:21 pm
jimmydanger wrote:"You got to work hard, you got to work hard, if you want anything at all." - Depeche Mode

I'm sorry for you guys and anyone else who have worked hard but have not yet reaped your reward. If you give your all and work hard at your dream everyday you will succeed. But if you have not truly given your all I have no pity for you. Life is no picnic but it's better than the alternative.

All in all I believe I have succeeded in life because I worked my ass off. Nothing was given to me, I earned it all. I paid my own way through college, raised two great kids, have a beautiful house, drive a new car, buy whatever gear I need and record whenever I want. I'm in two excellent bands with guys I love like brothers. I had a lot of adversity in the last ten years; I got divorced, lost my job and then the economy crashed. But I get up everyday and go to work and things are starting to look very good again. My boss gave me a $3,000 bonus check and a $100 a week raise on Friday. All you have to do is try and the universe will provide.


Words of wisdom above! I agree 100% I have struggled like hell and within the last 10 years started to reach success!

It has always been a struggle even in this land of OPPORTUNITY! In the old days if you had medical it was almost unavailable. Babies were born at home and families lived together and RARELY traveled far. Times have changed but only because technology has advanced. You don't think there is opportunity here? Just ask someone who came from Hondures, China, Vietnam, mexico!
It seems like not long ago I was in the same state of depression over such a long struggle for success. My advise to those of you struggling is when you do achieve a measure of success it makes it SOooo much SWEETER! Hang in there that door of opportunity could open for you at any time and when it does you have to be mentally prepared to step thru it! :wink:

#202812 by Kramerguy
Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:21 pm
jimmydanger wrote:By possessions I mean things beyond a place to live. Technically you only need air, water and food to survive but you would live like an animal. There are people that have gone back to nature but you'll find even they have knives and other modern implements. Yes you need money to live even modestly well by our modern standards. But do I need 7 TVs, two of them 65" inch home theaters? Of course not but more stuff gives the illusion of happiness.


I wouldn't know.. the only tv I own is an old tube lol. I don't watch anything on it EXCEPT the walking dead (FTW!), but yeah.. my guitar gear and computer are the only luxuries I own. I have little in the area of possessions, much less than our countless neighborhood welfare dwellers...

But anyways.. I need the PC for work, and technically even that belongs to the company. My old crappy XP machine died a year ago.

#202818 by jimmydanger
Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:27 pm
My old XP machine is still running, I have it setup as my vinyl ripping station. My new PC has Windows 8 on it.

I only watch movies, science shows and the occasional Wings game. There is a TV in every room except the bathrooms!

#202825 by jw123
Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:46 pm
LOL, Jimmy my drummer was in Chicago this past weekend, for a work convention, and he sent this picture from his hotel, it had a tv in the bathroom mirror.

I had never heard or seen anything like that.

#202830 by J-HALEY
Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:05 pm
jw123 wrote:LOL, Jimmy my drummer was in Chicago this past weekend, for a work convention, and he sent this picture from his hotel, it had a tv in the bathroom mirror.

I had never heard or seen anything like that.


I still have a pic. in my phone of that resort we played a year ago in vegas. It is a picture of me taking a picture of the mirror in the room I had. There was a freakin tv inside the mirror! DAYUM thats almost as new fangled as Jed and Ellie Mae's cement pond! :lol:

#202833 by jw123
Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:12 pm
Haley it just proves us guys from the T states are Redneck! LOL!

I watch a lot of those home renovation shows, but I never saw them mention the tv in the mirror! My uncle has flat screens in all of his bathrooms, but in the mirror.

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