#201047 by jimmydanger
Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:35 pm
Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:35 pm
Jimmy Danger's First Rule For A Happy Life: Avoid all 'isms'. You don't need to belong to a chess club just to play chess.
This is a MUSIC forum. Irrelevant or disrespectful posts/topics will be removed by Admin. Please report any forum spam or inappropriate posts HERE.
Moderators: bandmixmod1, jimmy990, spikedace
Kramerguy wrote:I personally think religion is a crutch. religions people seem to feel that they cannot get thru life without a higher purpose and authority to answer to.
That's fine with me, I really don't care if someone wants to get on their knees, whisper to to wind, drink wine, etc.. Some great moral fabricss come out of religion, so really, I have no issue with it.
UNTIL.. people are made to suffer in the name of it. Until people shovel it down my throat, accuse me of being a bad person.. because I'm not THEIR religion.
I hate that christians view muslims the way they do- muslim religion is no more violent and intolerant than Christianity. The spanish inquisition more or less proves it, if not the crusades. Modern day is no different, just less bloodshed with god's name attached- now we call it "spreading democracy".
PaperDog wrote:Kramerguy wrote:I personally think religion is a crutch. religions people seem to feel that they cannot get thru life without a higher purpose and authority to answer to.
That's fine with me, I really don't care if someone wants to get on their knees, whisper to to wind, drink wine, etc.. Some great moral fabricss come out of religion, so really, I have no issue with it.
UNTIL.. people are made to suffer in the name of it. Until people shovel it down my throat, accuse me of being a bad person.. because I'm not THEIR religion.
I hate that christians view muslims the way they do- muslim religion is no more violent and intolerant than Christianity. The spanish inquisition more or less proves it, if not the crusades. Modern day is no different, just less bloodshed with god's name attached- now we call it "spreading democracy".
Kramer, I think you are confusing Religion, and Culture.
Christianity does not condone, support or foster the behaviors that the Spanish inquisitors and Crusaders practiced (Regarding violence).
Christianity does not condemn races, cultures, societies on earth (But some of the Judeo factions did..i.e Old Testament was replete with God Sponsored decimation.
Likewise, Islam in and of itself does not condone, support or foster tthe behaviors of the 911 rat-pack.
However, I will say the primary difference is that ISLAM insists that its children die for Allah, whereas Christ insists on dying for the children.
You can tear up Christians all you want if that makes you feel superior... But I think your perception about modern world (and old world) is extremely limited. Just saying...
J-HALEY wrote:No matter how much logic you talk to them they will find a loophole Grant! Like he said "Religon is a crutch" what an empty existence!
J-HALEY wrote:PaperDog wrote:Kramerguy wrote:I personally think religion is a crutch. religions people seem to feel that they cannot get thru life without a higher purpose and authority to answer to.
That's fine with me, I really don't care if someone wants to get on their knees, whisper to to wind, drink wine, etc.. Some great moral fabricss come out of religion, so really, I have no issue with it.
UNTIL.. people are made to suffer in the name of it. Until people shovel it down my throat, accuse me of being a bad person.. because I'm not THEIR religion.
I hate that christians view muslims the way they do- muslim religion is no more violent and intolerant than Christianity. The spanish inquisition more or less proves it, if not the crusades. Modern day is no different, just less bloodshed with god's name attached- now we call it "spreading democracy".
Kramer, I think you are confusing Religion, and Culture.
Christianity does not condone, support or foster the behaviors that the Spanish inquisitors and Crusaders practiced (Regarding violence).
Christianity does not condemn races, cultures, societies on earth (But some of the Judeo factions did..i.e Old Testament was replete with God Sponsored decimation.
Likewise, Islam in and of itself does not condone, support or foster tthe behaviors of the 911 rat-pack.
However, I will say the primary difference is that ISLAM insists that its children die for Allah, whereas Christ insists on dying for the children.
You can tear up Christians all you want if that makes you feel superior... But I think your perception about modern world (and old world) is extremely limited. Just saying...
No matter how much logic you talk to them they will find a loophole Grant! Like he said "Religon is a crutch" what an empty existence!
MikeTalbot wrote:A lot of Christians are only semi-literate in their own theolody which drives me nearly crazy.
Telling unbelievers they are sinners is a losers game. A lady told me once she figured I'd become a Christian becuase I didn't want to go to hell. What she didn't get was that before I became a Believer I didn't believe any of it.
And it is not our gig to fuss with unbelievers. I'm was surprised to find that I am accused of 'hating muslims.' Why would I? Their religion is essentially a slighty twisted version of early Talmudic Judaism. i think it is a mess but i also reckon it's not my business. I can't hate people very easily - Christ died for all.
For unvarnished 'basic' Christianity. I recommend my own Wisconsin Synod Lutherans. We really home on the fundamentals and we certainly don't advertise as the 'church that is against' the 'sin du jour.' We are simply a church that is 'For Christ.'
Jesus even loves Mike Nobody!![]()
Talbot
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest