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#199283 by PaperDog
Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:26 pm
gtZip wrote:
PaperDog wrote:
MikeTalbot wrote:I do not hunt. Used to but a strange thing happened during the war. My lieutenant was angry with a villager who was blatently lying to us so rather than shoot the man (which I know he wanted to do) he shot the man's burro.

The poor little critter gave out a wheeze and expired. It bothered me a lot for some reason. I haven't shot at an animal since. Don't rule it out - if the kids get hungry hell I'll shoot a Dolphin if I must. But only if I must.

Tried to explain to my grandaughter why the deer in her neighbor's truck had an arrow sticking out of it. ("I think it is sick Pawpaw...") Yep, very.

But I don't object to other folks hunting. Just lost my desire to do it.

Talbot


I dont underdstand the need to kill animals (as sport). I saw a vid of some ass-holes, who cornered a cougar in a tree, and shot it with a cross bow. (5 yards up) . The poor animal crouched, blood poured out of him like a tap, , he fell out.

The whole thing makes me sick... I cant tell you how many times I want to absolutely beat the sh*t out of these amateur hunters...
I absolutely detest most adult humans...and there are days when I feel that their lives are worth less than the animals' lives. I really dont understand why I feel that way...but I do... and I think it has something to do with compassion and empathay for the underdogs of life.


Spoken like a true sociopath.
You love animals but have no empathy for fellow humans.
Shake yourself.


Nope, Look up the definition of a sociopath. They typically have NO, None, NADA, ZIP, compassion or feeling for anything , anyone or any life in general. To them, the world is just a stage to manipulate for their own survival and to suit their own needs... You would just be standing in their way.

Me on the other hand...I could just simply be a very disillusioned romantic about life, with an angst (and you simply have no idea how deep it runs...)... I am extremely passionate in many of my convictions. I love as much as I hate. I give the shirt off my back for my freinds, ..

.HOWEVER, I will concede...like a sociopath, I find there are too many people standing in the way of life itself. I feel many people are epic FAILS, in God's plan to promote the human race. If it were up to me, I'd annihilate the earth and start over...But everybody already knows that starting over would just be making the same mistake twice. Good thing I'm not God, I'd be too preoccupied electric-bolting the sh*t out of hunters.

#199285 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:44 pm
electro-bolting!?? LOL We need to call for legislation outlawing electricity because there might be more sociopaths like yerself!



My dad was a hunter who brought me hunting quite a lot. I hung out with all his hunter friends and never met a single one of them who didn't respect both guns and game.

Hunters have traditionally been the ones who protected wildlife more than any other group. They are the ones who set limits and keep each other accountable for the protection of the hunt.

Dad also thought it was unfair to hunt with a gun, so he took up the bow. He'd get his limit opening week and then stay on the deer lease with a video camera for the rest of the season.

He also provided venison for the entire extended family every year. Oh I miss him.






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#199289 by PaperDog
Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:33 pm
yod wrote:electro-bolting!?? LOL We need to call for legislation outlawing electricity because there might be more sociopaths like yerself!



My dad was a hunter who brought me hunting quite a lot. I hung out with all his hunter friends and never met a single one of them who didn't respect both guns and game.

Hunters have traditionally been the ones who protected wildlife more than any other group. They are the ones who set limits and keep each other accountable for the protection of the hunt.

Dad also thought it was unfair to hunt with a gun, so he took up the bow. He'd get his limit opening week and then stay on the deer lease with a video camera for the rest of the season.

He also provided venison for the entire extended family every year. Oh I miss him.


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In America, There is absolutely no need, whatsoever , in any shape of fashion or form to hunt for food. I don't care if your Uncle Jed in the booneys, or Walt whitman on a luxary safari... When people hunt in America, its a gratuitous activity, and its usually done, to feed a sense of 'sport' or trophy collection.

Not to take away from the bonding that your family experienced through hunting, but I can think of a dozen different ways to achieve that, without actually having to kill something.

Hunting is insidious, barbarous...and Here's a thought, If humans can dismiss the lives of lesser creatures than themselves, how on earth can they ever be trusted to handle lives of greater creatures, primarily themselves?

I look around me and notice that many folks 'live' at the expense of a lot of other lives. And we wonder why we have wars? Humans killing humans.

The only reason I advocate gun ownership, is exclusively and unequivocally to allow us to protect our selves from all manner and forms of hunters.

#199293 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:49 pm
Dawg,,, You might be surprised at how many people actually still hunt to feed themselves. You are right to complain about about any one killing just for the sake of killing. But a bunch of people love deer and moose and many other critters. You can't just go to the store and buy some moose meat.
Also many times you have people raising chickens and corn or some other crop that overly large deer herds can destroy or coyotes killing chickens,,,, ETC.
You are right, and you are wrong.
I knew a man that raised a pig for food,,, Then he found he had a pet,,, not food.
We are so far removed from the actual slaughter of feed animals that I can understand your angst,,,, I can also see the angst of a hunter that is hungry and needs to feed his family.

#199294 by gtZip
Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:34 pm
Paper, I wrote that just to poke a bear with a stick.
I don't care if you cry for the squirrels or not.

The troubling thing to me is, some here will rattle something like that off and wholeheartedly believe themselves.

#199295 by gbheil
Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:35 pm
Not a clue . . . shame.

Whom kills what you eat?

Oh for shame the poor carrots.

#199298 by gtZip
Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:41 pm
To be non sarcastic for a moment - it probably is worth it to consider by what means your food supply becomes food.
I agree with the philosophy of all life is precious.

#199300 by gbheil
Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:44 pm
gtZip wrote:To be non sarcastic for a moment - it probably is worth it to consider by what means your food supply becomes food.
I agree with the philosophy of all life is precious.


Absolutely . . . and we have been given dominion over it by the Creator of all life.
Stewardship.
It's not just a funny sounding word.

#199303 by PaperDog
Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:30 pm
sanshouheil wrote:
gtZip wrote:To be non sarcastic for a moment - it probably is worth it to consider by what means your food supply becomes food.
I agree with the philosophy of all life is precious.


Absolutely . . . and we have been given dominion over it by the Creator of all life.
Stewardship.
It's not just a funny sounding word.


Judging by the manner of our stewerdship, I'd say I'm still surrounded by a bunch of fukin cavemen... (Not you personally bro) ...

I dont reject the idea of killing to feed our families...But I am whole hertedly saying that its entirely unnecessary to hunt for food in America. There is enough systematic slaughtering to feed this entire nation 20 fold over. Like I said... If you hunt in America, you do it gratuitously... period!

#199304 by gtZip
Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:35 pm
I wonder what reinforces the sanctity of life more though... Getting your own hands dirty, or reducing it to common knowledge and a concept (the others at the factory) ?

#199305 by PaperDog
Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:38 pm
gtZip wrote:Paper, I wrote that just to poke a bear with a stick.
I don't care if you cry for the squirrels or not.

The troubling thing to me is, some here will rattle something like that off and wholeheartedly believe themselves.


Its cruel to poke bears GT! :shock: I do believ everything I stated. There really are moments when I feel utter contempt for humanity, becuse quite frankly, were such a fkd up species... Its a fkn waste that we have capacity for rationale, and we spend that by killing each other... You have no idea how that disgusts me...

I actually understand what Jimmy was saying aboutthe kids in Connecticut: "Look at their faces" . It kills me that we cultivate and become such monsters, that children and animals have to suffer for that.

What a fukin shitpile this planet is! We exist, and have to sustain, by taking life from something and /or someone else. It saturates our entire being. Its political, its social, its economic... and yet we call ourselves civilized? FUK whoever started that idea... Were fukin cavemen...STILL!

I believ my bear just got a groove on
:P

#199306 by gtZip
Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:02 pm
And the strangest thing just happened.
In between checking this thread, I grabbed the acoustic to entertain my kid with and sh*t out a whole song skeleton.

Just... BAM.
It's basic rock but it's all there.

Weird

#199307 by PaperDog
Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:10 pm
gtZip wrote:And the strangest thing just happened.
In between checking this thread, I grabbed the acoustic to entertain my kid with and sh*t out a whole song skeleton.

Just... BAM.
It's basic rock but it's all there.

Weird

Most hearty Congrats...You have proved that variation on topics can indeed invoke the creativeness of these members... :)

rock On!

#199311 by Slacker G
Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:26 pm
Take that "We" We're" stuff and shove it.

I had nothing to do with raising the murderer or the killings. You corporate responsibility people make me wanna puke.

That is such a twisted socialist f**k up mentality. It's Socialism at its best. It is written that every man is responsible for his own actions and he alone shall bear the punishment for his deeds.

One of the big problems with society are the leftist thinking jerks who want to adopt responsibility for what someone else has done because it makes them feel noble and allows them to portray themselves as deep thinkers. But it isn't only them, other people without reasoning skills or the ability to clearly see things also spout out that leftist socialist crap. BUT Hey dudes. We are a nation of INDIVIDUALS and not some corporate body of ameba's.

If that isn't bad enough they have to go on and tell everyone else they are also responsible. That is such a sick twisted or distorted outlook.

Everyone takes the blame, and the one with the guilt agrees. It wasn't my fault, it was those other sick f**k that are taking responsibility for my actions because it's really their fault.. They are the ones that made me do it.... then we agree and let them out to roam the streets looking for their prey again. Why? Well, because it really wasn't their fault. It was the corporate failure of the Utopian mind that should bear the guilt.

It was grandmas fault because her dad was a hunter and he fired guns at animals and ate them.

Why not accept that it is the fault of the universe and quit accusing your fellow man of wrong doing and calling him guilty when he has done nothing but lead his own life the best as he can. Just blame the universe and let it go at that.

That is if you have to find someone else to blame other than the guilty person

#199318 by jimmydanger
Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:01 am
I don't hunt myself, never have, but I know plenty of hunters. Today I stopped by one of the few friends I have left from high school, big time hunter. He showed me a nine-point buck that his son shot down in Ohio over the weekend. They use bows only, never guns. The son downed it cleanly with one arrow. They will eat the meat and mount the head. I don't really have much of a point except to say the deer population can get out of control because there aren't many natural predators around. They are practicing conservation, getting food and having fun with their sport. Got to give them props for that.

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