General Music Chat

Mr. Haley

I'm a gun hater. I hate my mini-14 tactical that has an extraction problem - damn thing supposed work!

Talbot

Some guns just don't work well with aluminum or steel casings, or just foreign made ammo. Any of those? One shooter here had a Ruger .22 rimfire semi- auto here. Brand new. Kept jamming on re-load. No other gun has missfired, (miss-loaded), more than Rugers here. Glock .40s are next. My taurus hasn't miss-fired or miss-loaded yet. As a precaution, always keep your muzzle down range until completely clear or you may have another reason to hate your gun.

Obama needs a bigger rug to throw his dirt under. Bengazi is still under investigation, at least until, well, the election is over. Only thing left for investigation report to come out is wait until we forget and it doesn't matter. A news helicopter was shooting live as they pulled the "assault rifle" from the vehicle not used in the Sandyhook Massacre. The investigating Sheriff said 2 pistols were used and the assault weapon was not used. He could not say more until further investigations were done. Obama promised something would be done to protect our children. It was a senseless killing. Making sense of it is a pipe dream when it comes to trying to understand the mindset of a murderer. The only thing Obama could get a bandstand agreement on in the wake of this tragedy is to target "assault Weapons". The truth of the matter is this... If I were to leave the keys of my car in my ignition and someone stole my car, ran it through a crowded market -killing many- Who would be responsible? Let's ban cars! The first "assault weapon" was a musket. Without them, we would still be saying "Hail to the King!" It IS a constitutional right to bear arms so that our government does not forget it is there For the people, By the People. Counties without the right to bear arms are without recourse and are communistically governed.

The Coroner's report said the victims were shot with a .223 caliber. Anyone that has shot a .223 knows it will not stop in a body at close range to be found by a coroner to say what caliber it was. Hitler said if you told a lie often enough, people would believe. He started out as a chancellor/statesman. Obama's lie is that we the people ARE the danger.

Ballistics on a 223 are awesome... 4 inches 600 yards,, wow!

and yet you refuse to even discuss the elephants in the room that gun control works in every other country it was implemented in, and that almost every mass shooting / massacre was done using registered, legally purchased guns.

Your arguments about "criminals" being the problem are backwards and remove any real solutions, other than arming everyone and upping the gun related deaths per year.

You ignore all of that, and yet, call me names? Grow up. learn to debate.

Start talking about the issue and stop barking the same propaganda over and over and there might be a decent discussion to be had. Of everything I've typed, your only response has been personal insults, and you've not addressed a single issue with more than a one-liner.

I said in the other thread, these arguments are hopeless.

Give up jerk,, show the points in history were unarmed people were safe and protected by an attacking nation. My granduncle was part of the of the 6 Finnish sharpshooters that held off the whole russian army making a land grab during WW2.

With people like you there is no DECENT DISCUSSION!!!!!!

The shooter only entered 2 rooms in the school. Can you believe the Coroner's report. I would more readily believe the Sheriff pulled a bullet from a wooden cabinet or something. Why did the Sheriff's report change after Obama's address? Why no repeat of the news cast showing the .223 coming out of the car? Biggest conspiracy since the Kennedy assassination.

In other words KRAMER,,, You are stepping over the line. You can duck and cover,,, You keep pushing your crazy liberal agenda, some one is going to take it to far.
It won't be me, because I still have a tremendous love of all my sisters and brothers, I have a responsibility to make sure we all grow and succeed.

YOU DON'T GET THAT!
That makes you a very dangerous person!

Mr. Haley

I'm a gun hater. I hate my mini-14 tactical that has an extraction problem - damn thing supposed work!

Talbot

Some guns just don't work well with aluminum or steel casings, or just foreign made ammo. Any of those? One shooter here had a Ruger .22 rimfire semi- auto here. Brand new. Kept jamming on re-load. No other gun has missfired, (miss-loaded), more than Rugers here. Glock .40s are next. My taurus hasn't miss-fired or miss-loaded yet. As a precaution, always keep your muzzle down range until completely clear or you may have another reason to hate your gun.

Hogwash !
I don't deal with .40, but i think that I'd have to immerse my G26 in some swamp mud, then run over it with a truck to get it to malfunction.

The shooter only entered 2 rooms in the school. Can you believe the Coroner's report. I would more readily believe the Sheriff pulled a bullet from a wooden cabinet or something. Why did the Sheriff's report change after Obama's address? Why no repeat of the news cast showing the .223 coming out of the car? Biggest conspiracy since the Kennedy assassination.

I said that. Maybe in a different way.

Your cartoon is funny, but to be more realistic it would have to show heavily armed government officials trying to rip this man's protection from his grip, serving papers.

Mr. Haley

I'm a gun hater. I hate my mini-14 tactical that has an extraction problem - damn thing supposed work!

Talbot

Some guns just don't work well with aluminum or steel casings, or just foreign made ammo. Any of those? One shooter here had a Ruger .22 rimfire semi- auto here. Brand new. Kept jamming on re-load. No other gun has missfired, (miss-loaded), more than Rugers here. Glock .40s are next. My taurus hasn't miss-fired or miss-loaded yet. As a precaution, always keep your muzzle down range until completely clear or you may have another reason to hate your gun.

Hogwash !
I don't deal with .40, but i think that I'd have to immerse my G26 in some swamp mud, then run over it with a truck to get it to malfunction.

Your .26 may operate well. I think it is a more balanced round than the short and stubby casing of a .40. Some firearms, IMO, are not designed to be fed the exact same way as another. For example, the .22LR Ruger's round is too skinny for the magazine to hold them in staggered single file. During feeding, it wants to feed 2 rounds, stopping the action completely. Fine tuning may help but, that should have been done by the manufacturer before it goes into it's market box. >40's also have the flat top bullet which is horrendous for feed malfunction. for this reason, I would not buy any protective device that will fail in action by design. I don't care what ballistics show that a flat top bullet can do,(if it performs well), I want to know that upon drawing it, I'm not going to spend the last micro seconds trying to figure out what went wrong.

One more item. My .9mm rounds come in regular lead bullet and FMJ (Full Metal Jacket). There is more drag with a lead round than the FMJ. The FMJ' are recommended for target shooting, and the leads are recommended for full potential knock down. They say to practice with FMJs, and load with lead, non-jacketed. Why practice with one guitar, then get on stage with another? This suggests that a FMJ might not put down an offender. Just imagine the head ache from successful multiple shots.

Earlier, I made a statement I hoped would get challenged by thinkers. The first assault weapon was a musket. It was a fist. If they ban all assault weapons, just think of this nation without hands.

Earlier, I made a statement I hoped would get challenged by thinkers. The first assault weapon was a fist. If they ban all assault weapons, just think of this nation without hands.

They'd just kick each other in the ass.