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seems like the problem here is that people are breaking laws.

Keep treating symptoms and you will never resolve the cause.

There you go with the rose colored glasses again. Your never going to stop crime NEVER! If you think you can your CRAZY! All I want is the right to defend my family. IMO you want to take that right away because in your mamby pamby world everything should be fair and crime won't exist! Go get yourself a gun train yourself how to use and man up ya JACKWAGON!

lol, living in fear is "manning up"? Heh. I'd rather not have to rely on a .357 to live my life. It's really sad that you feel it empowers you.

Anyways, I'm done, you ain't convincin me and I ain't convincin you. This topic is pointless. You posted a video that basically told me that someone just like you, or any other gun lover in america can and probably will go nuts and shoot up public places, and that taking the guns away from nuts wont solve the problem. I disagree. So be it.

Have fun living your life in fear.

seems like the problem here is that people are breaking laws.

Keep treating symptoms and you will never resolve the cause.

There you go with the rose colored glasses again. Your never going to stop crime NEVER! If you think you can your CRAZY! All I want is the right to defend my family. IMO you want to take that right away because in your mamby pamby world everything should be fair and crime won't exist! Go get yourself a gun train yourself how to use and man up ya JACKWAGON!

Well, I dunno how feasible stopping ALL crime is.
As long as there is freewill and f ucked up people, f ucked up people will do f ucked up stuff to other people.
But, a LOT of crime would disappear if it were simply legal to do it.
When prohibition ended the gangs were put out of the bootlegging business.
Another source of crime is money.
If money were eliminated, and you could live without it, there would be little point in doing illegal stuff to get it.
I know it seems silly that I make references to Star Trek.
But, that is part of the reason why crime doesn't exist on Earth in their future.
No money, no problem.
Although it isn't established exactly how this was accomplished, I'm betting replicator technology had a lot to do with it.
Or at least some technological advancement made the issuing of money obsolete and unnecessary.

seems like the problem here is that people are breaking laws.

Keep treating symptoms and you will never resolve the cause.

There you go with the rose colored glasses again. Your never going to stop crime NEVER! If you think you can your CRAZY! All I want is the right to defend my family. IMO you want to take that right away because in your mamby pamby world everything should be fair and crime won't exist! Go get yourself a gun train yourself how to use and man up ya JACKWAGON!

lol, living in fear is "manning up"? Heh. I'd rather not have to rely on a .357 to live my life. It's really sad that you feel it empowers you.

Anyways, I'm done, you ain't convincin me and I ain't convincin you. This topic is pointless. You posted a video that basically told me that someone just like you, or any other gun lover in america can and probably will go nuts and shoot up public places, and that taking the guns away from nuts wont solve the problem. I disagree. So be it.

Have fun living your life in fear.

First of all I don't live in fear because I AM ARMED YA JACKWAGON! Second I know a gun can save lives because I SAVED ONE WITH MY GUN! 3rdly I have owned guns my whole life and I haven't shot anyone yet! 4th I am not trying to convince you as you are a hopeless case and I am wasting my breath trying to do that! I hope you don't ever find yourself in the position of the lady addressing lawmakers telling the same story in the video! I also hope you and your family are able to live an AWESOME existence without guns. I don't want to live without guns I LIKE THEM! I am not heavily armed. Just a NORMAL, AVERAGE RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER! Not a FLAMING LIBERAL nutcase like some people (cough cough) Jimmy, Kramer!

and yet you refuse to even discuss the elephants in the room that gun control works in every other country it was implemented in, and that almost every mass shooting / massacre was done using registered, legally purchased guns.

Your arguments about "criminals" being the problem are backwards and remove any real solutions, other than arming everyone and upping the gun related deaths per year.

You ignore all of that, and yet, call me names? Grow up. learn to debate.

Start talking about the issue and stop barking the same propaganda over and over and there might be a decent discussion to be had. Of everything I've typed, your only response has been personal insults, and you've not addressed a single issue with more than a one-liner.

I said in the other thread, these arguments are hopeless.

and yet you refuse to even discuss the elephants in the room that gun control works in every other country it was implemented in, and that almost every mass shooting / massacre was done using registered, legally purchased guns.

Your arguments about "criminals" being the problem are backwards and remove any real solutions, other than arming everyone and upping the gun related deaths per year.

You ignore all of that, and yet, call me names? Grow up. learn to debate.

Start talking about the issue and stop barking the same propaganda over and over and there might be a decent discussion to be had. Of everything I've typed, your only response has been personal insults, and you've not addressed a single issue with more than a one-liner.

I said in the other thread, these arguments are hopeless.

I am BORED TO TEARS trying to talk common sense to you by stating the OBVIOUS! Duh! If you take guns away from people OF COURSE gun violence is going to fall. As already stated by someone here. The cats already out of the bag and again I say its illegal to own a gun of any kind in Mexico how do you think that working out! The hypocrite in the whitehouse cares, he allowed guns to go to that country, lied about it and covered it up with an "executive order" You can't stop violence YA JACKWAGON! If people want to kill they are going to kill damn it KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL (excerpt from Alice's Restraunt)

Obummer doesn't want to waste a perfectly good crisis by not getting some EXTRA MILAGE out of it to futher socialize the former free U.S.

In China, 22 students and one adult attacked by knife-wielding man. None died.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/15 ... d-20121215

In China, 22 students and one adult attacked by knife-wielding man. None died.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/15 ... d-20121215

Yep, but to my knowledge China has almost always been a communist country that never let the perverbial "cat out of the bag" So whats your point? Could your point be you can compare apples to oranges and win a debate?

If you can't even see the simple point being made, then my time is even more wasted than I thought. Ah well.

If you can't even see the simple point being made, then my time is even more wasted than I thought. Ah well.

Back at ya!

What she said about clips is spot on...

In fact, you could more reliably shoot something up with multiple low capacity clips. If you get a failure to feed or something, you can just drop the clip, slam a new one in, rack the slide, and go

kramerguy.. should air rifles be outlawed too? what about .177 co2 pellet guns?

Gun control works? Kramer...use your head.

It worked in Nazi Germany.

It worked in STalin's Russia

It worked in Communist China.

Making death by goverment very common.

Today it is almost impossible to buy weapons or ammo - while Nazi Pelosi and her band of communist traitors are plotting to disarm us, we are activiely arming up. The biggest gun store in GA will not even take phone calls today - simply too busy.

Those idiots want us to believe the best way to protect children is to turn in our guns. They really show their contempt for us in this nonsense.

I was at the doctor's yesterday. The nurse, an old friend, told me her son who is a county cop advised her to carry her weapon and 100 rounds at all times. Something is up, something bad.

We are not rolling over. The govt has turned this country into a violent hog pen. Many of us are simply not going to stand for it and we are going to protect our families and our neighborhoods.

This is not fear. We are not afraid. Those who would take our freedoms? They need to be really really afraid. They have trashed our country, and now want us to trust them and disarm? Ridiculous. This is not Cambodia. We are not suckers. And we are getting very very angry.

Talbot

I didn't wanna start yet another thread, so...
Some things my daddy said about carrying a gun:

The edge you have from carrying a gun is them not knowing that you are carrying a gun.
It's not to threaten with, it's not to show. If it needs to come out of the holster then you better use it

when they outlaw guns, the only people that will have them are the outlaws!!!