General Music Chat

I'll be at our casa in Mexico on Jan 15th and the wife comes down Feb 15th .. and we leave March 28th.

I'm flying a piano down this time, to leave there .. got a bunch of old blues players in the neighbourhood that have played with international artists so we'll have some great jammin going on ... drop by if you are in the area .. we have a spare bed.

Prevost...I tried to fly a piano once...It was disastrous! (Not to mention my playing during the flight)

Dick's Sporting Goods has just stopped selling certain semi-automatic rifles.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/money/Wal ... index.html

The company that makes the Bushmaster just put that product line up for sale. WalMart has pulled its ads.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/18/news/ce ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Stock prices of major gun makers have slumped.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/18/news/co ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Republican govenor of Michigan to veto concealed weapons bill.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Mich ... index.html

Things are changing. Just wait and see.

I have to wonder if those shops were earnest, or operating under a threat of violence by fringe groups?

Maybe it didn't deter them, but it sure would stop them in their tracks. No amount of security and no amount of preparedness can stop a well prepared monster. They have the surprise factor in their favor. The thing is to minimize the damage.


Hmmmmmmmm pointing. Maybe there's something to that. But they'll just have to add another box to that cartoon and move on to "pulling"

Can you imagine the SWAT guy when he confronted the killer? I'd love to see a cartoon with the SWAT guy standing over the bad guy asking "Have you seen my bullets?"

There is NO HOPE for you in the area of common sense Jimmy! Anything to push your FLAMING LIBERAL agenda. Anyone with a half a brain knows the mother was shot 4 times in the head as SHE LAY SLEEPING! You and Michael Moore are a couple of (bite's tongue) Doh DUMBASS'S!

Jeff, I think that was MM/Jimmy's point.. owning guns didn't save her, and only enabled the shooter.

Contrary to your beliefs, you would be surprised to find that I'm actually on the fence with gun ownership. I personally want a couple of guns, and used to own 2 rifles and one pistol. I got rid of them for personal reasons, but it was always the other "gun nuts" who worried me.

Upon thinking more into it, I came up with the idea of the armory- a way that I can own guns, yet keep them safe.

When I speak of keeping guns safe, that encompasses more than just locking them in a gun safe and using trigger locks. A smart kid can find a way around both. Just like this guy shot his mom in the head while sleeping, nothing could stop him as much as nothing could stop a child from taking your keys while you are sleeping.

Keeping guns safe means keeping them out of the hands of irresponsible people. This massacre wasn't caused by stolen or illegally obtained guns (well, sort of), but was committed using a legally owned firearm that was owned by someone who was not considered a threat.

Do you suggest that we now do a psych evaluation on everyone in the household of the gun owner? What about visitors? Should all household visitors have to register at the local gun shop for a permit to be in the same house?

I'm making the sarcastic point that more regulation cannot stop a crazy person from obtaining guns and mowing down children. We need to get the guns off the streets. We need stronger laws to get them off the streets. We need a workable and local system to store and distribute guns based on individual needs.

Let's face some facts- anything can be made into a weapon. Among the things mentioned are hammers, shovels, toothbrushes, fertilizer and jet fuel (good luck buying those without going onto an FBI watch list), etc..

The stark difference is that all of those items are built to serve a specific purpose, they are essentially tools. A gun however, is built with only one single purpose- to eject a bullet that will destroy whatever is in it's path, whether it's a paper target, a beer can, or a child.. it's purpose is only destruction. It CAN be used as a tool, for instance, making real hunting (hunting for food) easier; but in most cases it's used for recreation, sport (including the non-real hunting), and killing.

Guns may occasionally save lives, but they also take them.

Thinking more about it.... There's a large pit bull in my neighborhood.. it's owners aren't bad people and the dog isn't mistreated. I still cannot for the life of me understand WHY in the hell they have a pit bull. The dog is dangerous. Many dog breeds have commonalities to them.. cocker spaniels tend to piss all over the place; great danes tend to go mad at middle-old ages, and pit bulls tend to fly off the handle and attack without warning.

...And so do people. I compare the pit bull to the gun and it's owner alike. Arming society is such a bad idea on every level. Get into an argument, and it may be the last argument you ever have. Conflict resolution breaks down to who feels more threatened and draws first. Can't you see the madness?

Armories resolve almost all of my issues, while I can still maintain my right to own and use a gun, and places it's responsibility solely on me, and affords me the restriction of not always having it as a go-to solution when I'm having a bad day, or feel threatened by a pack of skittles or loud music from a car...

You want to see violence.

Just keep screwing with the constitution.


I have been armed all my life.

I have never initiated conflict with my weapons.

I have in several instances, avoided, and or ended criminal intent before it began.

As with most things in life. If you have no personal experience from which to draw.
You should shut the f**k up.

Jeff, I think that was MM/Jimmy's point.. owning guns didn't save her, and only enabled the shooter.

Contrary to your beliefs, you would be surprised to find that I'm actually on the fence with gun ownership. I personally want a couple of guns, and used to own 2 rifles and one pistol. I got rid of them for personal reasons, but it was always the other "gun nuts" who worried me.

Upon thinking more into it, I came up with the idea of the armory- a way that I can own guns, yet keep them safe.

When I speak of keeping guns safe, that encompasses more than just locking them in a gun safe and using trigger locks. A smart kid can find a way around both. Just like this guy shot his mom in the head while sleeping, nothing could stop him as much as nothing could stop a child from taking your keys while you are sleeping.

Keeping guns safe means keeping them out of the hands of irresponsible people. This massacre wasn't caused by stolen or illegally obtained guns (well, sort of), but was committed using a legally owned firearm that was owned by someone who was not considered a threat.

Do you suggest that we now do a psych evaluation on everyone in the household of the gun owner? What about visitors? Should all household visitors have to register at the local gun shop for a permit to be in the same house?

I'm making the sarcastic point that more regulation cannot stop a crazy person from obtaining guns and mowing down children. We need to get the guns off the streets. We need stronger laws to get them off the streets. We need a workable and local system to store and distribute guns based on individual needs.

Let's face some facts- anything can be made into a weapon. Among the things mentioned are hammers, shovels, toothbrushes, fertilizer and jet fuel (good luck buying those without going onto an FBI watch list), etc..

The stark difference is that all of those items are built to serve a specific purpose, they are essentially tools. A gun however, is built with only one single purpose- to eject a bullet that will destroy whatever is in it's path, whether it's a paper target, a beer can, or a child.. it's purpose is only destruction. It CAN be used as a tool, for instance, making real hunting (hunting for food) easier; but in most cases it's used for recreation, sport (including the non-real hunting), and killing.

Guns may occasionally save lives, but they also take them.

Thinking more about it.... There's a large pit bull in my neighborhood.. it's owners aren't bad people and the dog isn't mistreated. I still cannot for the life of me understand WHY in the hell they have a pit bull. The dog is dangerous. Many dog breeds have commonalities to them.. cocker spaniels tend to piss all over the place; great danes tend to go mad at middle-old ages, and pit bulls tend to fly off the handle and attack without warning.

...And so do people. I compare the pit bull to the gun and it's owner alike. Arming society is such a bad idea on every level. Get into an argument, and it may be the last argument you ever have. Conflict resolution breaks down to who feels more threatened and draws first. Can't you see the madness?

Armories resolve almost all of my issues, while I can still maintain my right to own and use a gun, and places it's responsibility solely on me, and affords me the restriction of not always having it as a go-to solution when I'm having a bad day, or feel threatened by a pack of skittles or loud music from a car...

Kramer, how in the HELL can being a gun owner help her if she is asleep? Jesus Christ people GET REAL!

You want to see violence.

Just keep screwing with the constitution.


I have been armed all my life.

I have never initiated conflict with my weapons.

I have in several instances, avoided, and or ended criminal intent before it began.

As with most things in life. If you have no personal experience from which to draw.
You should shut the f**k up.

George these folks with degree's think they KNOW EVERYTHING! I know you probably have a degree because you are a Nurse and I mean no disrespect to you. My Dad was in the same category as Jimmy and Kramer highly educated and degree'd but lacking any common sense!

Intelligence and common sense are 2 different animals, not of the same color stripes.

Just because you may have one does not mean you have the other as well.

This is the TRUTH about gun control.
She knows she was there.
She did not see it in some lame assed film.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=41 ... =2&theater

Careful, that facebook link just dropped my computer to it's knees like you kicked it in it's junk.

The Meek Shall Inherit The Earth.

This is the TRUTH about gun control.
She knows she was there.
She did not see it in some lame assed film.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=41 ... =2&theater

She just about says it all. Any one that wants to dispute it is just a mass murderer waiting in the wings,,,, Like King OBAMA.


The right to own guns, shall not be infringed.

All you stupid fucckking liberals have the biggest problem because you also don't believe THOU SHALT NOT STEAL. Every FREE MAN has the right to property and life. Good Lord, This is going to prove how patient sane people are.