#19797 by Craig Maxim
Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:27 pm
Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:27 pm
Steve Myke wrote:You better not be comparing me to a neo nazi!,and don't be offended by facts,its not healthy,arts not my thing.
Dali was an anarchist, not a nazi.
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Steve Myke wrote:You better not be comparing me to a neo nazi!,and don't be offended by facts,its not healthy,arts not my thing.
neanderpaul wrote:... at that point you decide what moods are invoked by a style of music, but everybody gets different emotions from different styles of music. This reminds me of a time in high school when I walked by a door that read "music theory" in my my uneducated position I thought. Well that means theories on the different moods that might be invoked when a person listens to different chord progressions, musical styles etc. Now that would be a theory. Instead of course it was about scales and modes that go with different keys and chord progressions. To me those are not theories they are facts. To me deciding what mood goes with what music is largely personal. Much like tastes in food are personal and vary widely. As far as Martin Luther saying being a rebel was being an enemy of God. He was a rebel when he nailed his message of the 99 or 100 things wrong with the catholic church on the door of the catholic church. And have you seen the bumper sticker that reads"Jesus was a liberal"? Isn't that a being a rebel?
Steve Myke wrote:the link said "'the real neo" before it popped up,lol,the tv kind of anarchy or the drive for natural freedom without levels of order kind?
irish anthony wrote:i wasnt being hateful paul far from it amigo
Steve Myke wrote:lol,now theres a guy i wanna smoke one with,leather rhino and all.But anarchy isn't about desruction or chaos,its about Natural Freedom,Not the pretend kind,you know?
Irminsul wrote: You may get variations of whether people like the agitation or not, but the basic energy is irrefutable. No one will see it as a sleep aid.
Irminsul wrote:
This really has little to do with music theory. It has to do with aural-sonic fact. The way you manipulate sound causes different effects in people. And when you couple that sonic energy with a message that is mismatched (which I still believe, regarding the linkage of Christianity and metal/thrash/punk) you will get dissonance. Dissonance decreases or obliterates the chance that the message will be both heard and absorbed.
Craig Maxim wrote:
My objection would be to screamer christian music, but not necessarily other forms. As you noted, the message, one would think, should be able to be understood.
However, Christianity is broader than "turn the other cheek" passivism. Jesus himself, was a figure that elicited violence as well as peace. He overthrew the money changer's tables in anger, and on many occassions hurled remarks that were so vitriolic, that the recipients would immediately seek to stone him.
Irminsul wrote:
"I bring not peace but a sword".."I set brother against brother.." etc. That was a metaphor to illustrating that he was upseting the old social order, not that he wanted to jam a sword into anyone who crossed his path.
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