General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Mike,,,, Vamp is right,,,,

This is accelerating at a faster and faster pace.

The confusion being created from all directions is astonishing.

The average person doesn't stand a chance to understand what is happening.

I don't even want to say any more, because if start to extrapolate from the information available, the direction always seems to lead in a very bad direction.


This is going to BE INTERESTING.

Good luck Mike.

Zeebig says:

Another threat, less overt but no less basic, confronts liberal democracy. More directly linked to the impact of technology, it involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled and directed society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific knowhow. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control (Between Two Ages, pp.252-253).
- Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, 1970- by Zbigniew Brzezinski

"In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason."

- Between Two Ages : America's Role in the Technetronic Era - 1970- by Zbigniew Brzezinski

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"Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power to cause a potentially important shift in the international distribution of power and to decipher the central external goals of their respective political elites and the likely consequences of their seeking to attain them;... second, to formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or control the above..." (p. 40)

"To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." (p.40)

“Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization."

"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor." (pp 24-5)

- The Grand Chessboard, American Primacy And It's Geostrategic Imperatives - 1997 - by Zbigniew Brzezinski
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"This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept." --- Zbigniew Brzezinski

"Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." ... "Imperial mobilization is inimical to democracy."

Obviously this is not a war, or neither have any comprehension of what war is.
I don't know when war became became so civil.
In war all civilians should be considered support for combatants and eliminated. That includes women children and babies. That is war and it is UGLY.

Too many times we have allowed our soldiers to be killed because we tried to separate "civilians" from combatants. Yet there will still be that one mother with a baby in arms and a bomb strapped to herself, allowed to penetrate the defenses of compassion.

58 thousand Americans died in Vietnam because we protected the civilian populations. Even if we had a valid reason for that war, it is just proof that our leaders have NO CONCEPT of war.

Sorry if that was to graphic.

You're right.
We carpet bombed and fire bombed cities in Europe. We dropped nukes on cities in Japan.
We were victorious. War ended.

Glenn

Sorry to sound so strident. Those people (as Gen Lee used to call them) are driving me a little nuts.

Plus I have a rough case of Bronchitus - picture me full of steriods - i should be locked in a closet some where!

best
Talbot

BM ALERT!

PLEASE READ
VAMPIER's Thread is about to break a world record at the thresh-hold of 100 postings.


I would like to start a contest:

Post a single joke from here on out. The funniest Joke, that is closest to or on 100 will be declared "The poster who posted the funniest joke near or on 100"

Ready, set ...Here's mine:

"I programmed my DVD box to record "The Biggest Loser" and It filled my drive up with Oakland Raiders games..."

BM ALERT!


"I programmed my DVD box to record "The Biggest Loser" and It filled my drive up with Oakland Raiders games..."

http://youtu.be/g04aCp3ej-I

Just trying to lighten it up a bit

Make your 16 bar piece a 4 bar piece, that's as light as YOU can go..

(kicks it while on the ground) (ugnhh) lololol

(Oooh it that your "come back and kick me whistle") lol

I dreamed last night that I ate a giant marshmellow!

When I woke up - my pillow was gone!

Talbot

Hey. Did you hear the one about the liberal who trusted this government?

...I always loved this joke. Three prisoners escape from a prison and are being hotly pursued by the guards. They know that they will not be able to outdistance them so when they go over a ridge and are out of sight briefly they saw to one another ... "We must hide" Looking around they discern very few possibilities. One sees a tree so he climbs up into the tree. The guards are almost upon them and a second escaped prisoner spies a bush so he immediately leaps into it. Now the guards are almost ready to come into view so the third prisoner desperate sees only a potatoe field so he scrunches down into a furrow and makes himself as small as possible. The guards top the ridge and say w"Where can they have gotten to ?" One of the guards sees the tree so shakes it and the prisoner hiding within goes "Tweet Tweet". The guard says "Oh there is nothing here but a bird." Another guard takes his billy club and rattles the bush. The prisoner hiding within says "Meooow" and the guard says "Oh there is only a cat here." The guards wondering where the three prisoners could possibly be look around and see the third prisoner in the furrow lying there. THE PRISONER LOOKS AT THE GUARDS AND SAYS "POTATOOOOE"


TA LIVE WELL DIE WELL

.... ok that was just dumb enough to be funny..

I need a drink to enjoy that type of humor, Vamp.

Vamp - that was so bad you have forced me to share my favorite joke:

Guy walks into a bar - orders a draft beer and a shot. Drinks the beer, pours the shot into the breast pocket of his coat.

Orders another round. Same deal.

The bartender comes to see if he wants a third round and asks, "Excuse me pal - but why exactly are you pouring that drink in your pocket?"

The guy nails the bartender with a hard right to the jaw! Then a little mouse peaks out of his pocket and extends it's middle finger: "Yeah! And Phuck your cat too!"

Talbot

...Scott and Mike ... I know it was bad but I like it ... admittedly with a brew or two.

Here is another ....A man walks into a bar... it is empty excepting the bartender. The man orders a drink and sits there. The bartender goes into the storage room for a couple minutes. While he is gone the man suddenly hears "Nice Shirt". He looks around and can see no one even though the voice sounded quite near. The bartender returns and washes a couple glasses and asks the man if he wants another so he says yes and gets another drink. The Bartender asks the man to tell any one who may come in to wait a moment as the bartender needs to take a slash. The man agrees and the Bartender leaves to the toilet. Then the man hears the same voice "Nice shoes" he looks about yet still can see no one . The Bartender returns and thanks the man for keeping an eye out. The man then asks the Batender where is this voice from ? He relates the "Nice shirt" and "Nice shoes" remarks. The Bartender laughs and says "Oh, that is the peanuts (pointing to the dish of peanuts on the bar) They are complimentary"


Ta Live Well Die Well

a little boy was visiting Santa Claus at the mall and while on Santa's lap , Santa Asked him what he wanted for Christmas, in which the little boy replied, "all I want is a little brother for Christmas, to keep me company, in which Santa replied, go get your mother..