Thejohnny7band wrote:Clearly there is a rising epidemic of autism cases but before we form lynch mobs and hang scientists without a trial we need to find a clear scientific causal link between vaccines and autism. Currently we only have emotional rhetoric and no evidence. There may indeed be a multi-vaccine interaction issue but it is as yet undetected. The CDC must answer this question if they are to maintain the trust of the American people.
That's the rub though. The 'science' behind the current studies is questionable because they studies had been funded by the very people who are accused of hiding the truth. So far, only two independent studies have been done and both concluded that vaccines have a direct link to autism, and both allow for the environment to also play a role- which makes sense: Let's say mercury causes autism (for the sake of this argument), well, mercury is in the air, water, some foods, and vaccines. To say vaccines cause autism is really only half-true in that case.
But a child who didn't get vaccinated can see be environmentally afflicted.
Of those two independent studies, both were systematically assassinated in the press, with the press reaction measuring more reactionary than factual, but when has the lack of facts ever stopped the press?
What should be telling is that the government refuses to fund, adopt, or even acknowledge any concept of an independent study. So far we have the CDC and DHHS releasing "statements" and "reports" that THEIR research shows that vaccines are safe. Not just that they don't cause autism, but that they cause anything.
If that's the case, then why has the government been settling cases for autism related vaccine injuries? Why won't they do a PUBLIC study?
Sometimes the truth hides in the LACK of information.
It deserves repeating that I've never once supported abolishing vaccines (another media lie), myself and many parents all just wish to have "clean" vaccines without the chemical cocktail. We all understand that vaccines themselves are beneficial to society.
The governments (UK and USA) both deemed that both independent studies were bogus; one was a scientist from the UK, who was de-certified (medical license taken away) and run out of the country for publishing his findings, and a university study in the USA was deemed as compromised, since the research team leader has an autistic child. With both reports, none of the actual facts (and their conclusions) were proven false, but this is a propaganda war, not an honest approach or attempt to find the truth.
recent congressional hearings, a congressional panel asked THESE questions to the CDC:
Mercury is a toxin. Why has it never been tested?
If pregnant women are told not to eat fish with mercury, how can it be safe to inject it into the mom and/or the baby?
What is the cumulative effect of the mercury in all those shots?
The FDA has admitted that there’s no conclusive evidence that mercury causes neurological damage. Since that means there is some doubt, why not err on the side of safety and remove it from all vaccines?
Why is mercury still in multiple-vial shots? Why can’t single vials be used?
If mercury is so safe, why was it taken out of all but a few vaccines?
Why so many shots in one day? Sometimes 9 at a time. Kids used to get 3, if that. Why are there more than 40 now?
Why not spread out the shots, giving only one at a time, until more evidence is in?
Why not test the safety of giving multiple shots in the same day?
How about comparing families who have children with autism with families who don’t?
Where is the study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children?
Is anyone looking at the geographic disparities?
What about finding treatments that are effective?
Where’s the accountability for the autism epidemic?
What about the “integrity” of Dr. Poul Thorsen, who was involved in 21 of the CDC’s 24 vaccine studies?
Where did the law shielding vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits originate?
What will it take to develop a comprehensive national strategy to make things better?
What about improved coordination among federal agencies?
Why are things getting worse and worse in spite of everything that’s being done?
How do we effectively and efficiently use our energy and our passion to get something done? We’re looking into causes, etc., but the people in this room need help right now.
Why aren’t you listening to the families and focusing on what they are telling you and what they need? There is too much parental evidence of the same story over and over—my child was normal and healthy, then got vaccines and changed overnight.
Autism is a public health crisis. Why isn’t it on the front burner of the CDC every day?
The answers were approaching idiocy...
The two federal representatives—Coleen Boyle from the CDC and Alan Guttmacher from the NIH answered collectively with the following:
We’ve come a long way in the field of autism.
It’s a national health priority.
The numbers have increased due to better diagnosis and increased recognition.
There have been numerous studies—and there are others in progress—to determine what accounts for the increase.
Surveillance tracking has been done in 12 states.
A lot of money has been spent for things like early detection in babies as young as 6 months old.
We’re working on a 5-minute questionnaire that will diagnosis autism as early as 1 year of age.
No one knows the cause, although car emissions and the age of the mother when pregnant could be to blame.
More research is needed before, during, and after pregnancy.
We don’t know how to prevent it, so we should focus on a cure.
The IACC has tools in place to identify best practices and risk factors and improve the lives of those with autism.
Lives—not to mention money—have been saved because of vaccines.
Mercury was removed from all vaccines in 2001.
Since mercury is safe, we don’t know why it was removed from most shots, but we’ll look into it and get back to you.
We don’t know how many multi-vial vaccines still contain mercury.
The reason so many shots are given at the same time is to make sure all kids get them. They use the opportunity to make sure it happens.
Forty is a little high for the number of shots. I don’t think children get that many.
All the vaccines and the schedule have been perfectly thought out by experts.
There is a body of evidence that shows no relation between vaccines and autism.
Vaccines have been proven safe in study after study.
It’s a puzzle—we’re putting the pieces together.
