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#195953 by Slacker G
Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:33 pm
fisherman bob wrote:No, we're about to head in a big way to a more profitable country. I have optimism, not pessimism.


Right on Bob. :roll:

Businesses are closing as fast as flies dropping during the first hard freeze in this town. I can smell the prosperity in the air. :)

#196005 by Kramerguy
Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:02 pm
Slacker G wrote:I was listening to ABC news and a demoncrat congresswoman was addressing the topic. Not a republicrap spew.

Link: Turn on your TV or radio once in a while and hear what leaks out from the liberal news media.

She said that the 401K contributions should be reduced to and shared with people who can't afford them. In other words, same old - same old demoncrat spew about how we need to share the wealth.

I did look up some interesting aspects of 401's for people too stupid to Google it on their own. Never waste a crisis comes to mind. No disaster speak on most of these but you will find out how401's are secretly being bled on charges and fees. But why worry? By the time you can cash in the whole amount it might not even buy a loaf of bread. :)


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/ ... KA20121126

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/10-thi ... genumber=1

http://www.policyshop.net/home/2012/11/ ... -401k.html


Well I'm more than aware of the fees and bleeding 401k's. That's a far cry from money specifically being taken out of mine solely or specifically to fund a 401k for someone who doesn't have one.

It's not that I don't watch CNN, or pay attention to the news, it's that I refuse to buy into our sensationalist media's claims of sky is falling every single day-

So anyways...
I went to the trouble to try and find the root of this story. It's repeated on only a few blogs that I found on a quick scan, but one of them provided a cite to an article written on the nationalseniorcouncil website. NSC's site is equatable to any other think-tank-activism site, the ARP, or even the NRA, in that it chooses political sides and supports them blindly. NSC in this case has not waivered from thier political affiliation, which is fine - everyone is biased. But when you a site allows it's bias to cloud their judgment, expect me to step in and correct that. For instance, I've commented many times on alternet when the liberal bias of an author becomes obvious and counter to the truth. I hold everyone responsible for the truth, not just one side (if only we ALL did, eh?).

But upon reading the article, I realized that none of this was based on facts, other than a meeting happened. After that, it was entirely speculation. Here's an excerpt:

"This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could," explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, "However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up."
A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a "government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation)." She proclaimed that even "private annuities are problematic."


http://www.nationalseniorscouncil.org/i ... &Itemid=62

Robert Crone goes on to say it was a meeting solely about why americans aren't saveing retirement funds, which could mean a lot of things, but then goes on to choose ONE thing that he thinks it means and speculates on it, so of those two sentences, the only facts that exist are that our government is worried about a negative trend and met to discuss it.

So this rebecca davis even gets quoted offering that they could be discussing reforms to a system that is fairly corrupt and needs to be regulated (to which I agree), and then the article drones on about the impending doomsday, based on one sentence of speculation.

I deem this issue a non-issue. The sky is not falling.

#196019 by Starfish Scott
Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:24 pm
Slacker G wrote:
fisherman bob wrote:No, we're about to head in a big way to a more profitable country. I have optimism, not pessimism.


Right on Bob. :roll:

Businesses are closing as fast as flies dropping during the first hard freeze in this town. I can smell the prosperity in the air. :)


That prosperity you smell is the break in the sewer line outside.. lol

#196063 by Slacker G
Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:42 pm
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:
Slacker G wrote:
fisherman bob wrote:No, we're about to head in a big way to a more profitable country. I have optimism, not pessimism.


Right on Bob. :roll:

Businesses are closing as fast as flies dropping during the first hard freeze in this town. I can smell the prosperity in the air. :)


That prosperity you smell is the break in the sewer line outside.. lol


Oh. Then I guess the sewer repair dept is prospering after all. :)

#196069 by JCP61
Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:27 pm
when they stop fixing the sewers

you will move.

#196071 by gtZip
Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:36 pm
JCP61 wrote:when they stop fixing the sewers

you will move.


Well we won't have to move. We know you.
We can just put you to work in exchange for some alone time with planet guy.

#196074 by JCP61
Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:03 am
:lol: :lol:

looks like you're gonna be covered in sh*t

#196075 by Mike Nobody
Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:10 am
JCP61 wrote::lol: :lol:

looks like you're gonna be covered in sh*t


http://youtu.be/2cV_q-mVAAA

:lol: :lol: :lol:

#196076 by JCP61
Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:16 am
:lol: :lol: :lol:

well that explains that!

#196079 by Starfish Scott
Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:51 am
Bravo..that was awful and yet funny.

I had forgotten that movie, I wish I hadn't remembered it either. lol

#196165 by MikeTalbot
Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:42 pm
FBob

You write as if optimism were somehow morally superior to pessimism. When I see a giant lizard coming over the hill acting hungry I get pessimistic. It's about an objective view.

Why I find optimism unrealistic:

This week Warren Buffet - a great stinking liar and thief was paraded by the govt pigs as a wise man because he is in favor of higher taxes for the 'rich.' That crook is nine years behind on his own taxes. The 'rich' is a code word for middle class who just barely supports the poor and the wealthy. Not for much longer.

A democratic congress bitch suggested ammending the constituion to restrict speech that attacks govt. Great idea...

A republican pig wants to overhaul TSA - not because it is a stinking pack of fascist nincompoops playing at gestapo - but because in his view, they are not 'efficient' enough. (true - they have never NEVER found a terrorist) But that is not their job - their job is breaking us to the lash.

So pessimism is pretty much the same as realism. We are in serious trouble and until God in His mercy drops a big rock on Washington - it ain't gonna get better.

Talbot

#196166 by Mike Nobody
Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:46 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:FBob

You write as if optimism were somehow morally superior to pessimism. When I see a giant lizard coming over the hill acting hungry I get pessimistic. It's about an objective view.

Why I find optimism unrealistic:

This week Warren Buffet - a great stinking liar and thief was paraded by the govt pigs as a wise man because he is in favor of higher taxes for the 'rich.' That crook is nine years behind on his own taxes. The 'rich' is a code word for middle class who just barely supports the poor and the wealthy. Not for much longer.

A democratic congress bitch suggested ammending the constituion to restrict speech that attacks govt. Great idea...

A republican pig wants to overhaul TSA - not because it is a stinking pack of fascist nincompoops playing at gestapo - but because in his view, they are not 'efficient' enough. (true - they have never NEVER found a terrorist) But that is not their job - their job is breaking us to the lash.

So pessimism is pretty much the same as realism. We are in serious trouble and until God in His mercy drops a big rock on Washington - it ain't gonna get better.

Talbot


Some see the glass half full.
Some see the glass half empty.
I say it's just half a glass...
...and who's been pissing in my glass?

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