General Music Chat

I have a pair of Intel 80 gig sSD (3G) drives. I also bought several SATA III (6g) drives for storage. I have 6g SATA ports in my system. I know that SATA III (6G) seldom run at that "Alice in Wonderland" transfer rate.

If I use my sSd (3G) for the OS, and my SATA III (6G) drives for storage, do you suppose that the system would run relatively as fast with the sSD II and a SATA III as it would using two SATA III(6G) drives?

I understand that SATA III speeds are seldom utilized except under certain conditions. So if my SATA III is slowed down by the 3 gig transfer rate of the sSD , how much noticeable would my system suffer speed wise?

Slacker, Im inclined to believe that the speeds are only as good as the busses allow. In fact I bet the Drives have historically been underutilized for that very reason.

If I'm not mistaken, SETAS just meand the NTFS (or SETA) as opposed to FAT 32 formatting. Am I wrong?

Both Gigabyte boards have SATA III (6Gig )transfer rate. I asked a tech that runs a computer store what the loss would be. He said using the sSD II and a SATA III I would get about 20% less speed than using the two SATA III drives.

I was hoping it would be better since the speed of a solid state drive is quite fast. But I have decided to go for the speed and use two SATA III drives.

I like the sSd drive because it is extremely fast when loading Win7. Two to three times faster than my 7200 rpm drive can load. Solid State Drives do speed up a system noticeably. I'll just save my sSD's for laptops.

I might be wrong, but I believe it will move at the speed of the slowest drive.

If you have your o/s on a slow drive, you're cooked.

Even worse, in order to avoid the slow data transfer rate, you have to be using the serial ata cables as well, WITHOUT an ata connector.

I.e. Hook up fast drives, by the correct cable or pay the price.
Make sure board is compatible with transfer rate, use correct cables and lose the slow drives.

You deviate from any of that and it will happily go slowly.

40GB drives are considered small these days. Might I suggest you get a couple of them, look for 10,000 rpm drives, set them up in raid 0, use the correct sata cables and if you mb is capable, you'll be good to go.

You can never have your o/s on a slow drive, just like you never want to use basic ata cables.

I might be wrong, but I believe it will move at the speed of the slowest drive.

You are correct. The system always reverts to the slower drive or read write functions would jam up if one wrote at a 300 rate and the other a 150. I was hoping that with a sSD It would be more forgiving knowing how much faster the read and write functions are on a sSD. BUT NOT

I was wondering what the loss in transfer rate would be if I had to use a 2G with a 3G. 20% isn't that bad, and I am using i5 quads in the two systems. I just decided that if I am going to use video with it I may as well go with two of WD's AAKX series drives. The heads never touch the platter with those drives. I also have a WD Black that cost an arm and a leg. But it is supposed to be a quite a cut above.

I tried using Parkdale to check my Hdd speed. The sSD clocked in at twice the speed of the SATA as expected, but made no difference when I installed the slower drive. Maybe Parkdale has a way of isolating the drives when tested. The system does support a 3g buss, SATA II.

I'm just going to use my SATA II stuff on my slower boards that are more than sufficient for a DAW.

(2) WD 10,000 rpm raptors in 36GB is my recommendation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Digital_Raptor

Get 2 of the fastest and best you can afford, raid 0 for performance and then you're on to the next item.

(2) WD 10,000 rpm raptors in 36GB is my recommendation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Digital_Raptor

Get 2 of the fastest and best you can afford, raid 0 for performance and then you're on to the next item.

The drives I ordered have good specs and run far more quiet. The other advantage is there can be no wear on the heads as the heads never touch the platters. I did lookup stuff on the VelociRaptors. Most of it was good other than the higher price, and the fact that there are less expensive drives out there that perform as well.

Here are a couple of clips from one in depth review. Bottom line, some other less expensive drives perform as well, Raptors are noisy, expensive. On the other hand, I prefer WD drives and always go with them as I have had very little trouble with WD.

Alongside that is the move to the more modern 'Advanced Format' for storage, which increases the minimum block size on each platter from 512bytes to 4Kb. The minimum block size is the smallest amount of data that can be written to the hard drive's surface.

It means that if you only want to save a file of, say, 12bytes in size you need to use up a whole 512byte block to do so. Raising this size increases the potential for wasted space on the drive - any file smaller than 4Kb will now have room to chill out in - but it also means fewer operations to transfer large amounts of data, making the drive more efficient overall.

There is one drawback to the VelociRaptors, which might just push things the way of the SSD/slow drive combination. The platters inside the VelociRaptor spin quickly and, as a result, they also make a lot of noise. It's like adding at least one fairly gusty case fan to your system.

For us, it's the deciding factor that leaves us sticking with an SSD boot/HDD storage combo for our storage solution of choice, but the VelociRaptors are a valid alternative if you fancy something a bit more unusual.

I use 4 wd raptors and they don't make any noise I can actually hear unless you count the extra fans i use to keep the system cool.

You'll forgive me but I about fell out of my chair when I read that horseshit.

I never yet had a drive that made too much noise, that's the dumbest thing I read today. (and I've been reading some really dumb crap today.)

Jimmy would probably know better than I would, or Keith.

You guys ever heard of a drive that made too much noise?

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Never had one so I just pasted the reviewers remarks in the conclusion.

My sSD is fast, but I would rather have had an sSD / SATA hybred drive. Laptops are out now that use those drives. They take so little power in standby that you don't have to even turn your laptop off. Just close the lid and when you open it the program starts where you left off in two seconds. I think that is the wave of the near future.hybreds. At least untill sSd's come into their own.Meanwhile I like the drives that I have.

After having "0" trouble recording 8+ tracks on a Pentium 450 with a ata 66 hdd, I don't think I'll have any bottlenecks with the new drives on a 4 cpu i5.

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