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How about that Agenda 21 stuff... great huh? Expect this regime to push it, no doubt.

http://www.globaltruth.net/agenda21.html

You doan need no stinking house........

http://occupycorporatism.com/agenda-21- ... ed-in-nyc/

Yeah. Go politicians go... Good stuff.

http://theatheistconservative.com/tag/p ... agenda-21/

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/a ... n-2866869/


In the last couple of years the omnipresent force known as Agenda 21 is meeting with increasing resistance worldwide. With the rise of the alternative media, the flow of decade-long propaganda efforts is finally being hindered. As a result of rocks thrown in the stream- the once steady water flow is now exposing itself at every turn as it’s forced to bend and twist its way forward. Ironically, the UN and its affiliate accomplices have themselves to thank for the counter-effort. The internet- as well as some pretty thorough archiving on the part of these transnational bureaucracies- have allowed researchers to withdraw information directly from the lion’s den. As a result of this development, we can display a plethora of documents, often written by UN personnel and ideologues, that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a concerted strategy in place to brainwash (there’s no other name for it) the human population of the planet into accepting Agenda 21 and its inherent depopulation proposals. Furthermore, this pool of document has revealed a plan to de-industrialize the west and to use the “green agenda” to do so. In the last few decades Agenda 21 has been UN policy, and all of its subdivisions were commanded to fall in line.

Nothing like that happening here under our Fuehrer.

How about that Agenda 21 stuff... great huh? Expect this regime to push it, no doubt.

http://www.globaltruth.net/agenda21.html

You doan need no stinking house........

http://occupycorporatism.com/agenda-21- ... ed-in-nyc/

Yeah. Go politicians go... Good stuff.

http://theatheistconservative.com/tag/p ... agenda-21/

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/a ... n-2866869/


In the last couple of years the omnipresent force known as Agenda 21 is meeting with increasing resistance worldwide. With the rise of the alternative media, the flow of decade-long propaganda efforts is finally being hindered. As a result of rocks thrown in the stream- the once steady water flow is now exposing itself at every turn as it’s forced to bend and twist its way forward. Ironically, the UN and its affiliate accomplices have themselves to thank for the counter-effort. The internet- as well as some pretty thorough archiving on the part of these transnational bureaucracies- have allowed researchers to withdraw information directly from the lion’s den. As a result of this development, we can display a plethora of documents, often written by UN personnel and ideologues, that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a concerted strategy in place to brainwash (there’s no other name for it) the human population of the planet into accepting Agenda 21 and its inherent depopulation proposals. Furthermore, this pool of document has revealed a plan to de-industrialize the west and to use the “green agenda” to do so. In the last few decades Agenda 21 has been UN policy, and all of its subdivisions were commanded to fall in line.

Nothing like that happening here under our Fuehrer.

Ya know... U.N. Tower... Boeing 727s.... You see where 'Im going with this, right ? Now here is the real kicker... We are beginning to realize the reach of the UN...But apparently, there were some assholes in Egypt who saw that first, and took out the cornerstone we knew as the twin towers. Just saying...Maybe that attack was so much more than just about America.

How about that Agenda 21 stuff... great huh? Expect this regime to push it, no doubt.

http://www.globaltruth.net/agenda21.html

You doan need no stinking house........

http://occupycorporatism.com/agenda-21- ... ed-in-nyc/

Yeah. Go politicians go... Good stuff.

http://theatheistconservative.com/tag/p ... agenda-21/

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/a ... n-2866869/


In the last couple of years the omnipresent force known as Agenda 21 is meeting with increasing resistance worldwide. With the rise of the alternative media, the flow of decade-long propaganda efforts is finally being hindered. As a result of rocks thrown in the stream- the once steady water flow is now exposing itself at every turn as it’s forced to bend and twist its way forward. Ironically, the UN and its affiliate accomplices have themselves to thank for the counter-effort. The internet- as well as some pretty thorough archiving on the part of these transnational bureaucracies- have allowed researchers to withdraw information directly from the lion’s den. As a result of this development, we can display a plethora of documents, often written by UN personnel and ideologues, that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a concerted strategy in place to brainwash (there’s no other name for it) the human population of the planet into accepting Agenda 21 and its inherent depopulation proposals. Furthermore, this pool of document has revealed a plan to de-industrialize the west and to use the “green agenda” to do so. In the last few decades Agenda 21 has been UN policy, and all of its subdivisions were commanded to fall in line.

Nothing like that happening here under our Fuehrer.

is The Agenda 21 a government within a government? and if so, where is their headquarters?

Agenda 21 = attempt to manage overpopulation rather than address the root directly.

It goes almost without saying that agenda 21 is a bad idea, bad policy, and will ultimately hurt the common man while enriching the wealthy man.

I do however believe that overpopulation is really the root of almost all of the world's problems, and needs to be addressed.

As socially liberal as I am, I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that the ONLY way to address it would be to enact restrictions on reproducing rights. Japan actually has (or had? it's been a few years since I read about it) a very good policy on it- Your first two kids, you get to take advantage of all social programs (like public school), but any additional kids YOU have to pay for everything, including paying full admission price for schools and other social services.

That still won't stop people like the Duggars who think 18 kids is not enough... I think two kids per family is more than adequate, and should be strictly enforced (additional kids go to adoption to families who cant have kids maybe?); and through accidental deaths, etc, the population would slowly and controllably be decreased over time.

Nobody on earth will agree, and I wouldn't expect anyone to, but theres the solution to what might be the largest threat to mankind. There may be other solutions and I'm all ears, but would they be nearly as effective?

...Agenda 21 = Evil ...Excellent thread Slacker .... Scum Villages in Amsterdam ...S/F and N/Y and L/A for starters ....only the largest population centres to start with. Reference Agenda 21 Maps ...forcing people into urban slums where they can not grow food etc but are dependent upon the Government for the engineered swill and vaccines. "ReWilding" huge areas of vacated lands and establishing huge estates (Fiefdoms) for the Filth ... reducing the world population by culling and slow kill ... experimenting and "creating" a subhuman species (morlocks) to do the slave labour ... the demented dreams of a few inbreds and a nightmare for the livestock. It has begun in earnest. The Last Hope is Texas and there is no hope whatsoever if the livestock let their guns be taken.

Ta Live Well Die Well

I rescind my post cause I think Agenda 21 is a bunch of hogwash like UFOs and Sasquatches

I thought the agenda 21 is the brain child of the U.N. ? They are showing up in Texas on Nov. 6th 2012 to interrupt an election for the first time in history or at least I have never heard of it before! It is crazy how this country is being assaulted from every angle constitutionally, spiritually, economically, physically, terroristically, financially, scientifically, morally, religiously, personally, technically, governmentally, immigrationally, with contraband, drugs, human smuggling, drug smuggling, contraband smuggling, exploitation of our economy, manipulation of our currency, theft of our technology, exportation of jobs, theft of jobs on our own soil, murder of our citizens. The only way we are NOT being assaulted is militarily and frankly I'm waiting for that shoe to drop! All this being overlooked and in fact being blessed by YOU! I guess when the citizens of a country HATE the soil they were born on, despise the government, constitution, ethics and opportunity they have. That reminds me of a bunch of spoiled kids with no direction!

I guess when the citizens of a country HATE the soil they were born on, despise the government, constitution, ethics and opportunity they have. That reminds me of a bunch of spoiled kids with no direction!

Uh WHO is?

Haley,

People don't hate the soil or constitution. It's a simple matter of greed.. people aren't bad, hell.. even their motives aren't bad from their points of view.

The problem is greed. They want a little of this and a little of that, with no regard for the outcome. It's not much different that a guy who cheats on his wife.. he wants some young thang here, and another one there, only thinking about his needs, meanwhile not realizing that he just gave his wife the clap, and now wrecked his household. He may not be a bad man per se.. but he could effectively wreck an entire household, and negatively affect many peoples lives.

This is the same as the tycoons .. they get so blinded by their own greed that they just become totally disconnected from the suffering it causes, they only see inwards. This is one of several inherent flaws in capitalism, as it rewards such behavior.

I think to achieve any solutions, we need to better understand the causes of our problems and stop reacting to the symptoms.

Most citizens don't hate america, they just no longer connect the dots.

Haley,

People don't hate the soil or constitution. It's a simple matter of greed.. people aren't bad, hell.. even their motives aren't bad from their points of view.

The problem is greed. They want a little of this and a little of that, with no regard for the outcome. It's not much different that a guy who cheats on his wife.. he wants some young thang here, and another one there, only thinking about his needs, meanwhile not realizing that he just gave his wife the clap, and now wrecked his household. He may not be a bad man per se.. but he could effectively wreck an entire household, and negatively affect many peoples lives.

This is the same as the tycoons .. they get so blinded by their own greed that they just become totally disconnected from the suffering it causes, they only see inwards. This is one of several inherent flaws in capitalism, as it rewards such behavior.

I think to achieve any solutions, we need to better understand the causes of our problems and stop reacting to the symptoms.

Most citizens don't hate america, they just no longer connect the dots.

That is your opinion Kramer. From my point of veiw YOUR way of thinking is exactly the problem in this country! I hate to break the news to you guy but LIFE AIN'T FAIR BROTHER! No one in this world is going to give you SQUAT! You have to go out there and EARN what you get! The liberal way of thinking is we will just REGULATE FAIRNESS! Thats called SOCIALISM dude! WHO WILL WATCH THE REGULATERS? Once they take away your freedom or in your case you GIVE IT TO THEM, you will have NO CONTROL over the folks regulating FAIRNESS!

Haley,

People don't hate the soil or constitution. It's a simple matter of greed.. people aren't bad, hell.. even their motives aren't bad from their points of view.

The problem is greed. They want a little of this and a little of that, with no regard for the outcome. It's not much different that a guy who cheats on his wife.. he wants some young thang here, and another one there, only thinking about his needs, meanwhile not realizing that he just gave his wife the clap, and now wrecked his household. He may not be a bad man per se.. but he could effectively wreck an entire household, and negatively affect many peoples lives.

This is the same as the tycoons .. they get so blinded by their own greed that they just become totally disconnected from the suffering it causes, they only see inwards. This is one of several inherent flaws in capitalism, as it rewards such behavior.

I think to achieve any solutions, we need to better understand the causes of our problems and stop reacting to the symptoms.

Most citizens don't hate america, they just no longer connect the dots.

That is your opinion Kramer. From my point of veiw YOUR way of thinking is exactly the problem in this country! I hate to break the news to you guy but LIFE AIN'T FAIR BROTHER! No one in this world is going to give you SQUAT! You have to go out there and EARN what you get! The liberal way of thinking is we will just REGULATE FAIRNESS! Thats called SOCIALISM dude! WHO WILL WATCH THE REGULATERS? Once they take away your freedom or in your case you GIVE IT TO THEM, you will have NO CONTROL over the folks regulating FAIRNESS!

Dude, you're watching WAY too much FOX NOISE.

America is a Democratic Republic.
If you want absolute anarchism, go to Somalia.

Haley,

People don't hate the soil or constitution. It's a simple matter of greed.. people aren't bad, hell.. even their motives aren't bad from their points of view.

The problem is greed. They want a little of this and a little of that, with no regard for the outcome. It's not much different that a guy who cheats on his wife.. he wants some young thang here, and another one there, only thinking about his needs, meanwhile not realizing that he just gave his wife the clap, and now wrecked his household. He may not be a bad man per se.. but he could effectively wreck an entire household, and negatively affect many peoples lives.

This is the same as the tycoons .. they get so blinded by their own greed that they just become totally disconnected from the suffering it causes, they only see inwards. This is one of several inherent flaws in capitalism, as it rewards such behavior.

I think to achieve any solutions, we need to better understand the causes of our problems and stop reacting to the symptoms.

Most citizens don't hate america, they just no longer connect the dots.

That is your opinion Kramer. From my point of veiw YOUR way of thinking is exactly the problem in this country! I hate to break the news to you guy but LIFE AIN'T FAIR BROTHER! No one in this world is going to give you SQUAT! You have to go out there and EARN what you get! The liberal way of thinking is we will just REGULATE FAIRNESS! Thats called SOCIALISM dude! WHO WILL WATCH THE REGULATERS? Once they take away your freedom or in your case you GIVE IT TO THEM, you will have NO CONTROL over the folks regulating FAIRNESS!

Dude, you're watching WAY too much FOX NOISE.

America is a Democratic Republic.
If you want absolute anarchism, go to Somalia.

Like I said YOU are the problem with this country Mike! Giving away your freedom in trade for fairness from TYRANICAL government promises and forcing me to do the same! I don't believe you folks are bad people. You are just confused. I will NOT comment on this topic any further because I am wasting my time. I'll just kick back crack open a cold one after my days at work and wait for the BIG SHOW!

I love FOX for entertainment, but not for factual news.

They have some issues with "keeping it real".

Haley,

People don't hate the soil or constitution. It's a simple matter of greed.. people aren't bad, hell.. even their motives aren't bad from their points of view.

The problem is greed. They want a little of this and a little of that, with no regard for the outcome. It's not much different that a guy who cheats on his wife.. he wants some young thang here, and another one there, only thinking about his needs, meanwhile not realizing that he just gave his wife the clap, and now wrecked his household. He may not be a bad man per se.. but he could effectively wreck an entire household, and negatively affect many peoples lives.

This is the same as the tycoons .. they get so blinded by their own greed that they just become totally disconnected from the suffering it causes, they only see inwards. This is one of several inherent flaws in capitalism, as it rewards such behavior.

I think to achieve any solutions, we need to better understand the causes of our problems and stop reacting to the symptoms.

Most citizens don't hate america, they just no longer connect the dots.

That is your opinion Kramer. From my point of veiw YOUR way of thinking is exactly the problem in this country! I hate to break the news to you guy but LIFE AIN'T FAIR BROTHER! No one in this world is going to give you SQUAT! You have to go out there and EARN what you get! The liberal way of thinking is we will just REGULATE FAIRNESS! Thats called SOCIALISM dude! WHO WILL WATCH THE REGULATERS? Once they take away your freedom or in your case you GIVE IT TO THEM, you will have NO CONTROL over the folks regulating FAIRNESS!

As smart as I am, I cannot for the life of me figure out how you came up with ^^that^^ as a response to what I wrote. You are basically saying it's okay for someone to completely F the system, lie, cheat, and steal, and then put down and keep down the masses as they enrich themselves, all because "life isn't fair", which really has almost nothing to do with what I wrote.

But let's break it down one step. You are aware that the police department is socialist? The fire dept too. So are schools, school boards, neighborhood associations (possibly fascist), as well as NASA, the EPA, the FDA, the roads, bridges, and just about every other jolly thing you take for granted. PUBLIC water, sewer, etc..

Take all that away and you have anarchy. Add capitalism and you have the bastard child of wild west and medieval brittish monarchy.

the only thing that has kept the ultra-wealthy from enslaving us all is simply FEAR. Regulations existed because of past abuses (rockefellers...) and the wall st crash of 1929 was a great example of what happens when you let bankers run wild.

What I find the most amazing is how amazingly loyal you are to your corporate masters. You defend them at every turn- and for what? To keep what little you have? You could have so much more. You work your whole life to enrich others- why don't they treat you better? Do you even want to be treated better, or are you convinced that you just don't deserve it? Or that you haven't worked hard enough?

Unions, socialist policies, and keeping the wealthy on a short leash provided us with the strongest middle class this country has ever seen.

Let me ask you one simple question, that requires a SIMPLE and non-toxic answer.

What 10-year period in american history would you say was economically the greatest, for the greatest number of people, businesses, everything. What were the best 10 years this country ever had? (same question asked two different ways)

Kramer, as much as "conservatives" fetishized the fifties, they seem to have a memory hole when it comes to just how "socialist" the fifties were compared to today.
I wouldn't expect one to make the connections between public policy and private economic well-being.
Every question has to be given a dumbed-down Ayn Randian answer; Da guv'mint is bad!