General Music Chat

I am only so far through the very first video and Mr. Braxton is quite a trip.

At 2:23 you can tell that they had to cut out part of the interview because he replied in a negative manner. (I love that stuff. F that stupid interviewer.)

Otherwise this guy just leaves me with my jaw dragging the floor and a "drunk dog" stare. wow.

see if you can exercise the patients it takes to examine the craftsmanship in this
maybe you will learn something about art.



http://youtu.be/i2uYb6bMKyI

your just a load of arrogant posers, using someone eles's work to make your self feel important.

We have already examined Mozart's creations since long time ago, he made wonderful music.

see if you can exercise the patients it takes to examine the craftsmanship in this
maybe you will learn something about art.



http://youtu.be/i2uYb6bMKyI

Whatever.
It is apples and oranges, dude.
Yes, Mozart is great art.
But, he's not the be-all-end-all you'd like to believe.

Personally, I find this to be more emotionally moving anyway:
Geeshie Wiley - Last Kind Words Blues
http://youtu.be/qIsbDzMRTf0

work is never apples and oranges
and that's 1/2 decent delta.
but you missed the point.

mainly because you forgot the question posed by the thread.

Why? Are You Getting Annoyed or Hostile Hearing Music You Do Not Understand?

How difficult a piece is to create is beside the point anyway.
There are thousands of guitarists who could play circles around most of the old blues players.
But, when those same "virtuosos" try playing the blues they often fall flat on their face.
They often have no soul.

YEAH!!! ... even if they are shredding Mozart licks!

Anthony Braxton on Chess, Math & Music
http://youtu.be/jgn1gdvgYQo

playing alto sax
http://youtu.be/0o0AYFRFX7g

Ghost Trance Music ..
http://youtu.be/-8OWAFbFGbA

Yep real great stuff. Music Noveltie at best.

This is the kind of stuff that is really simple to understand. Some ECCENTRIC musician plays some ECCENTRIC music that always gets buried in the back ground in some boring PBS Documentary.

I think I will go out and record scraping a comb on different kinds of pavement. I will be a smash.

I think Peter Gabriel did that while collecting sound for his Fairlight sampler to use on his album "Security" 1982

Damn those ECCENTRIC musicians!

(oh, I just saw your page, classic rock covers and tributes ... no wonder .. such overflowing imagination. )

see if you can exercise the patients it takes to examine the craftsmanship in this
maybe you will learn something about art.



http://youtu.be/i2uYb6bMKyI

your just a load of arrogant posers, using someone eles's work to make your self feel important.

We have already examined Mozart's creations since long time ago, he made wonderful music.

have you got a mouse in your pocket?


this certainly has to be the funniest thing you have ever said.

very funny,
but somehow I would have thought your photoshop would have been of a better quality.

Now I did vote no, but the question in itself can be misleading-

Do You Get Annoyed or Hostile When Hearing Music You Do Not Understand?

I don't understand jazz and a lot of world music, but I still can enjoy it. I don't understand country, rap, and hip-hop.. meaning I don't understand how people can possibly like it, but I do respect that people do, so it doesn't make me hostile or anything.

But when it comes to stuff like that Haters group, yeah it does sort of anger me because it's not music. One can argue that it might be art, but it lacks enough rhythmic definition for me personally to categorize it as music. I don't think it's a big deal that others do, but I don't care for being told I'm wrong for having such beliefs about it.

Now I did vote no, but the question in itself can be misleading-

Do You Get Annoyed or Hostile When Hearing Music You Do Not Understand?

I don't understand jazz and a lot of world music, but I still can enjoy it. I don't understand country, rap, and hip-hop.. meaning I don't understand how people can possibly like it, but I do respect that people do, so it doesn't make me hostile or anything.

But when it comes to stuff like that Haters group, yeah it does sort of anger me because it's not music. One can argue that it might be art, but it lacks enough rhythmic definition for me personally to categorize it as music. I don't think it's a big deal that others do, but I don't care for being told I'm wrong for having such beliefs about it.

Well, in all fairness, The Haters don't really consider themselves to be musicians at all.
They're performance artists.
The visual aspect is an integral part of what they do.
A lot of noise artists would probably be more accurately described that way.
But, The Residents don't consider themselves to be musicians either and they clearly compose and perform music.
It's all just art to me.
The rest is just hair-splitting over categorization.
Even hair-splitting over the difference between "art" and "entertainment" is kinda pointless IMO.

Anthony Braxton on Chess, Math & Music
http://youtu.be/jgn1gdvgYQo

some cool analogies re. chess/math/music and thinking ahead.

playing alto sax
http://youtu.be/0o0AYFRFX7g

yeah baby! that's some of the most 'inside' playing i've heard from A.B.

as i said before....i have a much easier time accepting outside stuff from players who prove they CAN play inside and make the changes. everybody in that band sounds great but dejohnette on drums......wow, that guy is just ridiculous.

Ghost Trance Music ..
http://youtu.be/-8OWAFbFGbA

this did little for me.

i don't mind some tension in music but i need SOME resolution at some point. otherwise.....nah, no thanks. i don't turn to music as a sleep powder or tranquilizer, but on the other hand.....life has enough tension in it already w/o looking for it in music.

Anthony Braxton on Chess, Math & Music
http://youtu.be/jgn1gdvgYQo

some cool analogies re. chess/math/music and thinking ahead.

playing alto sax
http://youtu.be/0o0AYFRFX7g

yeah baby! that's some of the most 'inside' playing i've heard from A.B.

as i said before....i have a much easier time accepting outside stuff from players who prove they CAN play inside and make the changes. everybody in that band sounds great but dejohnette on drums......wow, that guy is just ridiculous.

There was a longer clip of the backstage gathering of AB, Corea, and a few others from that festival including Lee Konitz. Braxton wins a $5 (or maybe it was only a nickle) bet with Konitz by singing to him the solo note for note from "All The Things You Are" that Konitz had recorded.

Ghost Trance Music ..
http://youtu.be/-8OWAFbFGbA

this did little for me.

i don't mind some tension in music but i need SOME resolution at some point. otherwise.....nah, no thanks. i don't turn to music as a sleep powder or tranquilizer, but on the other hand.....life has enough tension in it already w/o looking for it in music.

A person from a musical culture based on natural or just intonation might share this exact sentiment upon hearing a major third played on a "properly" tuned piano.

I think Braxton and some others are exploring and developing sensitivities to new, different, paradigms of balancing tension and release.

X - The Unheard Music

http://youtu.be/oyg-0xpPT7g

BTW, that's Ray Manzarek of The Doors on keys.
He was also the producer.

Wow cool sound It's like some cross between Mamma’s and Poppas style and maybe early Floyd, Arnold Lane, Julia Dream sort of tones. Great stuff.