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#193806 by Mike Nobody
Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:31 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Atheism is as stupid as religion itself, so this means very little. The ugly truth is that none of us know anything about the truth.


"'The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing'...THAT'S US DUDE!" ~ Bill S. Preston. Esq. & "Ted" Theodore Logan
:lol:
#193831 by Vampier
Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:18 pm
...La"anot ... Anah

Yod ... I thank you for your Posts. Israel ... "founded by Jews" ... "for Jews" as you state. You are partially correct in this I feel.

Israel was bombed into existence by Zionists. Zionism is a Political System. Zionism equates a political "belief" with a race ... therefore Zionists are racists.

"Created to be and is a Jewish nation" ? ... almost Yod. I believe that this is the 64th year of Nakbe' (The Catastrophe of the Palestinian People) ... the 64th year of Daily Atrocities in the Middle Easts only colonized state. Zionism is a militaristic and dictatory movement. Israel is in defiance and violation of the four Geneva Conventions ... UN Resolutions 181, 194, 242, 338 and others like the Multilateral and International Human Rights Conventions including The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. "It exists in it's Jewish Homeland on Jewish property given to the Jews by God himself" ?? No Yod.

The government of Israel is not Jewish ... it is Zionist. It exists by the uprooting and exterminating the native peoples of Palestine, Muslim, Christian, Jew and Samaritan. "Singling Jews out to say that their Homeland is illegitimate is racism" ??? ... No Yod. The existing minority indigenous Jewish Community in Plaestine in 1948 was allied to the Palestinians and led by Rabbi Lamram Blau. In establishing the racially exclusive state of Israel in 1948 ... expelling the indigenous Palestinians from their land ... Zionists severed a relationship that peope had to the land for over 4,000 years uninterupted since before Abraham.

Zionists are revising history ... embracing the notion of racial superiority themselves whilst condemning others who criticize them of the very same thing. Zionism is selfpropagating itself as a "democratic" movement. Palestinians are continuously being expelled, ethinically cleansed and subjugated. When assimilated they are granted limited, if any, civil rights. How can Israel be a Democracy by only representing one community in a bi-national and tri-religious contiguous geographic area while constantly violating the most basic elements of International Law and Human Rights practices which are highlighted in reports issued by Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch ???? A Democracy can not exist for one people and not for another ... this is called Apartheid in countries like South Africa.

Zionism has claimed an independent and sovereign Jewish State in a land where there is no Jewish majority. Zionist Militias expelled Palestinians from their ancestral homes ... not allowing them to return ... then destroyed the homes and claimed the land ... in direct violation of Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights ... this was even admitted to in the memoirs of David-Ben-Gurion.

The world has every right to "call out Israel" and to condemn it ... it has done and continues to do this for very good reasons. "Anti-Semitism" ????? ... No Yod.

"Anti-Semitic to challenge the right of Israel to exist" ?????? ... the Right ? No Yod.

"A claim that has no rational or legal or historical merit" ??????? ... No Yod.

Gil Troy and Elie Wiesel portrayed all this as a "romantic movement" reclaiming the desert and making it bloom and building a model nation state. There was no desert in Palestine excepting the Negev in the South. This myth is easily rejected and exposed by economic data on agricultural exports to Europe from Palestine as far back as Medieval Times.

"There can be no discussion of a voluntary reconciliation between us and the Arabs ... Any native people ... view their country as their national home ... they will not voluntarily allow, not only a new Master, but even a new partner ... Colonization can have only one goal. For the Palestine Arabs this goal is inadmissible. This is the nature of things. To change that nature is impossible ... colonization can, therefore, continue and develop only under the protection of a force independent of the local population - an iron wall which the native population cannot break through. This is, in toto, our policy towards Arabs. To formulate it any other way would only be hypocrisy."
Vladamir Jobotinsky
Father of Revisionist Zionism

It is very interesting that he should mention an "iron wall which the native population cannot break through" ... in light of Gog and Magog.

Denial of the Palestinian Right of Return for Palestinian refugees driven out and displaced when Israel was "created"... this was done in order that Israel would not lose it's new found "Jewish Majority". The Zionists required that Palestinians as non-Jews, be made to leave in 1948 and never allowed to return to their ancestoral homes. This has been a "dirty little secret" and is blatant racism.

I believe that for there to be real and just peace then Zionism must be not only recognized but labeled as the racist political philosophy that it is. The blind acceptance of Zionism as a "noble ideology" undermines itself with it's own hypocrisy. Israel's drive to seize and maintain dominion over the occupied Palestinian territories is obvious ... just look at the maps from 1948 up to the present. 750,000 Palestinians (Non-Jews) were forced under "duress" to leave their homeland.

Because of the Nazi Holocaust, Zionism and the "Lobby" in Washington ... Israel has come to be regarded as the perpetual innocent ... not aggressive, not racist and desirous of nothing more than peace.

Israel has inserted itself into the occupied territories with Israeli settlers, Israeli settlements, Israeli only roads and the building of Israeli infrastructure while destroying that of the Palestinians and taking over more and more territory, building walls and barriers and enforcing isolation. This is now so ridiculously obvious that all along the Zionist intended to assert exclusive Jewish Control, squeezing and forcing the remaining Palestinians to leave altogether the "occupied" West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

Jewish Settlements built upon lands confiscated from Palestinians where now Palestinians may not live.Does this really sound like "God's Chosen People" ???????? There are even growing numbers of Jews who do not think so.

Israeli Government Authorities even allocate the water in the occupied territories now ... Israeli Settlers are allocated 5 times the amount per capita as are Palestinians. In times of drought Palestinians must stand in line for drinking water while the Israeli settlements have gardens and swimming pools ?

Bulldozers flatten Palestinian houses, olive groves and fig orchards ... destroy Palestinian wells ... "making way" for Israeli settlements and seperation walls.

ICAHD ... Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions was formed by Jewish citizens of Israel in response to the Zionist policy of "Delivering the Message" by the steady destruction of existing homes. In the first 6 years of Israeli existence 418 Palestinian villages of which 85% existed prior to 1948, were systematically razed to the ground. Since "occupation" began in1967 over 30,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished. 95% of these have nothing to do whatsoever with Hamas or terrorism. Perhaps this may be one of the reasons Jimmy Carter is upset as he volunteers building homes for the poor in the US ?

In the Eastern Sector of Jerusalem zoning plans prevent the growth of Palestinian populations, preventing expansion since 1967 ... expropriating Palestinian owned lands, confiscating the "Jerusalem Residency Permits" of any Palestinian who fails in Israeli eyes to prove that Jerusalem is his "centre of life. Services have been severely limited to Palestinian areas, any development strictly limited and the refusal of residential building Permits to Palestinians as well as demolishing any home built without one. None of these restrictions are imposed on Jews ? Some Democracy.

The Bedouins are "treated" the same as the Palestinians. The Bedouin population has been forcibly relocated and squeezed into small areas in the Negev, again trying to force an exodus. Half of the approx. 140,000 Bedouins live in villages the Israeli Government does not "recognize". This means no services provided ... every "unrecognized" home is slated for demolition and all homes with the presence of Bedouin in them are officially illegal. Could this be a racist policy ?

Israel has instituted favoritism toward Jews by Law ... as a Zionist State, Israel has always identified itself as "the state of the Jews" ... not a state of it's Jewish and Palestinian citizens but "a state of all Jews everywhere in the world." The Zionist Law of Return gives automatic citizenship to Jews from anywhere in the world but to no other people. Over 93% of the land of Israel is State land.

Zionists have spoken of "spiriting" the Palestinian out and have discussed "Transfer" since the 1930's up to the present. Zionism tries always to justify it's racism as a matter of Jewish self-preservation. Most centrist and leftist Zionists deny the reality of Zionism's racism by trying to portray Zionism as a democracratic system and manufacturing enemies in order to be able to sustain the inherent contradiction.

Zionism masquerades as democratic and being the same as "Jewish" but it requires an enemy in order to survive and when an enemy does not already exist ... it creates one. In order to keep its own population in order and to prevent the humane from objecting to their own Governments repressive and rasict policies then fear has to be instilled in the population ... fear of "the other" ... fear of "the terrorist" ... fear of "the Jew-hater". By making believe that they are always "preyed upon" the Zionists justify forcing their "enemies" to leave, doscriminating against those who remain, denying democratic rights to those who they place under Israel's control in the occupied territories. This is classic NWO.

Needing an enemy Zionists create Myths painting first Palestinians, then all Arabs as hostile and intransigent. Another example ... the Myths that there is no such thing as a Palestinian or that Palestinians in modern times all immigrated from other Arab countries or that Jordan is Palestine.

Israel rejected the most conciliatory gesture by the PLO in 1988 where they agreed to recognize Israel's existence, relinquish Palestinian claims to the 3/4's of Palestine lying inside Israel's pre-1967 borders even "recognizing" Israel's right to exist there.

Are there other racist systems worse than Zionism ? Yes of course but this does not relieve Zionism of culpability. Yod you accuse myself and others of "singling out Israel" but not also leveling criticism of oppressive regimes elsewhere ...Chinese ...Japanese ... Americans ... Saxons ... saying we are racist , anti-Semite or how we have a special hatred for Jews ...all standard Zionist Propaganda Yod.

You seem to ignore several obvious factors which do give us every right to criticize Israel and Zionists and not some other country. The US Government supports Zionism and it's racist policies on a continuing basis. The US props up Zionism's military machine with massive amounts of military aid. The US "overlooks" the huge undeclared nuclear arsenal of WMD's that the Zionists have while they whine about the "possibility" of others geting nuclear power . It is wholly appropriate for any American to criticize Israel whenever they wish rather than to criticize for instance North Korea. The US does not assist North Korea's atrocities but it does underwrite Zionism's brutality.

Zionism advertises itself and congratulates itself as a unique moral system that is a "Light Unto Nations" pretending it is the embodiment of values that many Americans hold dear. US endorsement of Zionism puts our country at great risk for terroris on a massive scale. Muslim terorism does not arise from "hated of our liberties" as Baby bush has stated but from hatred of our oppressive killing policies throughout the Arab and Muslim worlds and from our "support" of Israel's severe oppression of the Palestinians.

"Israel's atrocities have now intensified to an extent unimaginable in previous decades. Land confiscation, curfew, the gradual pushing of Palestinians from areas designated for Jews have accompanied the occupation all along, but the level of oppression now is quite another story. This is an eliminationist policy on the verge of genocide."
Ran HaCohen
Israeli Commentator

It is time to move past "Jewish Victimhood" and think how best to address the future as fairly as possible. Zionism needs to be put to an end. AIPAC and it's intemperate charges of anti-Semitism should be silenced. The US complacent support for everything Israel does also needs to stop.

Killing hundreds of civilians from another ethnic group ... Confiscating their land ... Building settlements on that land for exclusive use ... Building roads on that land for exclusive use ... Preventing any expansion of existing neighbourhoods and towns ... Demolition of houses on a massive scale ... Preventing Population Growth ...all trying to induce "voluntary" vacation ... Imprisoning using checkpoints, road blocks, ditches, razorwire, electronic fences and concrete walls ... squeezing people into smaller disconnected parcels of land ... crippling productive capabilities ... Destroying agrocultural Land ... Destroying and confiscating wells, Preventing Industrial Expansion ... Destroying Businesses ...imprisoning leadership ... Threatening to expel or assassinate ... Destroying domestic security forces and infrastructue ... Destroying entire population's census records, Land Registry Records, School Records ... Vandalizing Cultural centres, Houses of Worship ... Urinating ... Defecating ... Drawing Graffitti ... Destroying religious and cultural artifacts ..................Conclusion ?????????????????????

Ethnic Cleansing
Racism
Repression
Atrocity
Provocation
Genocide or Holocaust ?
Ethnicide
Existential Threat ?

Every week there is another instance that demonstrates the continued "policies" of Zionist Israel...now they have fired missiles into Syria (in response)...they have cut off the water supply to Jerusalem's Holy Sepulchre (for nonpayment to an Israeli Water Company)...and since it is Palestine's Olive Harvest ....everything that can be done to prevent this continues to be done (to protect Israeli citizens from terrorism)

800,000 Olive Trees have been uprooted since 1967
Settlements,outposts,bypass roads,military bases,73 barrier gates
Costant intimidation

All the above have caused a loss of 55 million dollars to the Palestinian Economy

The UN says 40% of the West Bank is now encumbered by the Israeli Military and is restricted or "off limits" making effective maintaintence and harvest impossible.

Combine all this with the blockade and seizure of Foreign Humanitarian Aid that is attempted to be shipped in ... which has resulted in attacks and murder by Israeli Military .... what is next ? We do not have long to wait.

The Nation here in imminent danger of eliminattion is Palestine not Israel Yod.

The UN has designated Jerusalem as a seperate International Entity not under the Sovereignty of any Nation ... Like The City of London, Washington D.C. and The Vatican...NWO Centres.

Yod you seem to be obsessed by constantly using the Zionist Propaganda.

You "pass judgement on lies versus truth" ... No Yod you do not.

"I used to live a philosophy of lies" ? ... You still do Yod.

Let us agree that we do not agree and leave it at that, shall we ?

The near future will clearly demonstrate the true nature of Zionism, Netanyahu and their relationship to the Evil that is the NWO ... or not ? We merely have to wait.

If I am mistaken then I will be overjoyed and relieved beyond belief to readily admit it to you Yod.

Ta Live Well Die Well

#193874 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:52 am
Let us agree that we do not agree and leave it at that, shall we ?



I'd rather the truth prevail. Choose lies if you wish.


If I am mistaken then I will be overjoyed and relieved beyond belief to readily admit it to you Yod.



you can start right now because that was another boatload of it; almost every single sentence taken directly from a Hamas handbook on "How to Present Anti-Semitic Libel as if it were True". If I had a few days to go through it line-by-line, it would be easy to show why....but I've already shown you several times and you still you cling to this irrational fear. So, ok, keep it if it means that much to you.



Since you have bought into delusion, this video is for anyone with an open mind interested in knowing the truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... _HiV1OD8vc









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#193897 by Vampier
Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:38 pm
... fear ? ... irrational fear ? None of anything I have posted indicates any fear on my part whatsoever Yod. Israel lives in constant fear and has done so since it's conception... because of the illegitimacy of the manner it was formed and what it has done and what it continues to do. I have shown this quite clearly in my posts and it is backed up by those who are more expert and experienced than you will ever be by your visits...firsthand experience all in a general consensus regarding the continued atrocity which is Zionism.

You consistently show your failure to see the difference between Zionist and Jew. There are plenty of Jews living in Israel who would be pleased to tell you. I am not against the Jewish people ... I am against the Zionists and the NWO most of which are not really Jewish.

You show by the nature of your words a desperate defense ... "another boatload of it" etc. I do not have to resort to such. Neither do I need to quote propaganda ... Hamas or any other as the FACTS speak for themselves...the MAPS ... the POPULATION DENSITIES ... the VIOLATONS OF LAWS ... the ATROCITIES.

You do show me Zionist propaganda each time you cry anti-semitism and all it's tired sundry... that is all you have shown me ... and insulting words ... and your own delusions. Yes the Truth will prevail despite the desperate fear and paranoia that Israel shows constantly on every level fueled by guilt for atrocity and hypocrisy. The Truth will prevail despite what you or I think ot say. The biggest difference here is that I do not insult you or condemn you or scold and falsely pass judgements upon you...I listen ... and learn.

There are many videos on Y-tube but there is only one Truth. The video you linked was self incriminating and tragically comical and utter propaganda. I urge everyone to watch it.

I do continue to admire and respect what you do Yod as you truly live by your words. By this alone I will never condemn you nor allow others to. I find you an inspiration despite any difference we may have ... these are only a small matter in the grand scheme after all.


Ta Live Well and Die Well

#193907 by Starfish Scott
Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:05 pm
Hamas Handbook?

LOL Another great band name/song title..

And next we have the companion band, "How to build a better bomb", let's all give them a big hand, but not too big lest they detonate to-night.. don't forget your waiters and waitresses, they need monetary love too".
#193918 by Vampier
Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:51 pm
...Scott ... good one ....would that mean the band's music would be anti-semitic ?
Ta Live Well Die Well
#193921 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:21 pm
Vampier wrote:... fear ? ... irrational fear ? None of anything I have posted indicates any fear on my part whatsoever Yod.



The FACT that you keep perpetrating lies says otherwise, brother.


Israel lives in constant fear and has done so since it's conception... because of the illegitimacy of the manner it was formed


LIE which has been showed to be libel already.

No matter what the opinion of muslims/Nazis/anti-semites/NWO and the current dictators in the United Nations is, Israel is a nation as legitimate as any other. That is the TRUTH.





and what it has done and what it continues to do.


LIES that have been shown to be libel already.

To act as if defending one's citizens is an aggressive act of war done in a vacuum is libel.

Where is your condemnation for the 150+ indiscriminate missiles launched from Gaza by Hamas into civilian areas containing jews AND arabs only this week? How about missiles launched last week or the week before that or the week before that going back forever?

Don't be so hypocritical and we'll have nothing to disagree about.


I have shown this quite clearly in my posts and it is backed up by those who are more expert and experienced than you will ever be by your visits...firsthand experience all in a general consensus regarding the continued atrocity which is Zionism.


you have only shown that you are willing to keep repeating lies that have been discredited by facts on the ground.



You consistently show your failure to see the difference between Zionist and Jew. There are plenty of Jews living in Israel who would be pleased to tell you. I am not against the Jewish people ... I am against the Zionists and the NWO most of which are not really Jewish.


I realize that you think you're doing God's work, but it's quite the opposite...

Zionism (the hope of a home in their own land) and NWO (masonic control of the world) are not related, though you try hard to make the link








You show by the nature of your words a desperate defense ... "another boatload of it" etc.



And what do you call a boatload of sh*t? I don't think there is a nicer term that makes it smell better.




Neither do I need to quote propaganda ... Hamas or any other as the FACTS speak for themselves...the MAPS ... the POPULATION DENSITIES ... the VIOLATONS OF LAWS ... the ATROCITIES.


And I've shown several times already that you ARE using Islamic propoganda sources for your so-called "facts".

They have misled you and you have swallowed hook, line, & sinker.

When someone begins spreading lies, whether in knowledge or in ignorance, they have become a helper of lies. When these lies rise to the level of libel, then it's dangerous and needs to be confronted, even when it comes from a friend.








The Truth will prevail despite what you or I think ot say. The biggest difference here is that I do not insult you or condemn you or scold and falsely pass judgements upon you...I listen ... and learn.



No, the difference is my words protect life and you are condoning lies which promote the murder of an entire race of people.




There are many videos on Y-tube but there is only one Truth. The video you linked was self incriminating and tragically comical and utter propaganda. I urge everyone to watch it.


It explains why the apartheid accusation is a boatload of crap from anti-semite liars.

You've avoided the content of what he says and do exactly what you claim you aren't doing....dismissing the messenger without addressing the message.

Can you prove that he lied even once in that video? He simply proves that so many of the paranoid delusions about Israel are lies coming from liars. Why do you choose to avoid and ignore the truth?






I do continue to admire and respect what you do Yod as you truly live by your words. By this alone I will never condemn you nor allow others to. I find you an inspiration despite any difference we may have ... these are only a small matter in the grand scheme after all.



I respect you as an artist and a friend in dialogue, but I have no respect for lies that lead to murder. Sorry, it's just not in my character to act like there are no consequences for spreading this tired libel.


I don't think that perpetrating the lies that have constantly caused persecution and death of the Jewish people to be a "small matter in the grand scheme" at all. In the bigger picture, it will be the deciding factor for all nations.



Joel 3: 3 “For behold, in those days and at that time, When I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will gather all the nations And bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. Then I will enter into judgment with them there On behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; And they have divided up My land.
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#193935 by Starfish Scott
Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:45 pm
Vampier wrote:...Scott ... good one ....would that mean the band's music would be anti-semitic ?
Ta Live Well Die Well


LOL It's just a name or a title to attract attention, not to promote anti-anything or racism or whatever ism you are attracted to no matter where anyone's allegiances lie.

#193951 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:06 pm
The word "hamas" means "violence"



Maybe "Violence Handbook" would work better for a band name?

#193953 by Starfish Scott
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:09 pm
Yeah, I like that too..

"Violin-ce Handbook" if Vinny was bringing a violin. LOL

#193964 by Mike Nobody
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:17 pm
The world could always use more sax & violins. :D

#193966 by Starfish Scott
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:19 pm
Kenny G's new album.. (More Great Sax) LOL

Bring your own brass and/or condoms. (or both)
#194152 by Vampier
Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:11 am
...the simple Truth is that you parrot the same thing over and over and over ...Lies ... Libel ... Antisemitism ...Boatload of whatever ...Hamas Handbook ... squak, squak.

Fear ? Once again I repeat ... I have no fear regarding any of what we have spoken about ... although now and in light of the idiotic actions that Netanyahu is taking which puts the entire world at risk ... well I have a little fear about that. Irrational ??? That suitably describes the actions being taken.

I simply disagree with you and am not intimidated by your standard-speak defence of Zionism. I do not know if there exists a handbook but I do know that the Bible is not one for them. You retort and continue to insult and put forth accusations that I fear ... that I Lie ... that I am anti-semitic ?

Taking selectd statements from my Post and calling them Lies only futher illustrates your desperation.

Israel is as paranoid and insecure as they come and for good reasons. They were bombed into existence ... founded illegitimately ... and continue to extend their not so hidden agenda and intention by yet more bombing. They have done nothing but make enemies using the Bible ... using America ...using "defense" ...using "terrorism" as the justification for their sordid deeds.

You accuse me of lies while I suggest you may be a victim of propaganda. The sources I use were "on the ground" for decades in positions of responsibility in Israel and did experience things firsthand yet you call them Liars as well as I ? "on the ground" ? sorry but this reeks of Fox News and HillarySpeak. The only thing on the ground in what is left of Palestine is the blood of men, women and children who have been murdered.

"Missiles going back forever" ... how about going back only since the Zionists started orchestrating Israel ? Before than it was pretty peaceful.

I have only shown that I was prepared to agree that we disagree but you seem to prefer to continue your Zionist propaganda ... I do not look at this as a contest or who is right or wrong. I know that neither of us are able to be right or wrong as it is not as simple as that and my ego is not in peril.

Disregarding what I and much of the world have to say and labeling it as lies, libel and anti-semitic does not change the facts not the realities of such Yod. You accuse me of only repeating but compare the texts of the Posts and it is clear that it is actually yourself repeating your insults and accusations and anti-semitic whining. Who is the real hypocrite here ???

I do not think I am doing "God's Work" ... that is reserved it seems for you and the Zionists and Israelis. As I write this they are doing God's work in Gaza... murdering, maiming and destroying. After all Zionism is so much more than the standard propaganda statement "the hope of a home in their own land". I do not need to "try hard" to make the link as there are many others in many other countries who are doing a good job of that ... I do voice my suspicions however.

The only thing you have and continue to show is a very limited and very closed mind. The only thing I swallow is my tongue and my pride. What is dangerous is Israel, Netanyahu and Zionism. They are proving it right now to the world. They are dangerous to America, the Middle East and the world. Spreading Lies is their specialty not mine ... from their "Lobby" in Congress to their intent to destroy Palestine and take over Jerusalem. They Lie about WMD's ... their own and others ... they Lie about motivation and intent ... their own and others. You are the one condoning Lies which promote murder on an entire race of people not I ... look at the news.

The video is a boatload of crap to use your own pisselegant words and the content is dated propaganda. "Lies that lead to Murder" ? Targeted assassination of Ahmed Jabari and the outright murder of his son .... Bombing Gaza killing 5 of which 3 were children (God's Work no doubt) ... Bombing today murdering a 7 year old girl... (Self Defense no doubt) Puke.

Lies ...that Hamas is responsible for all those that Israel is killing yesterday, today and tomorrow or Israel stating they need no justification for such wanton outright murder ? ... claiming they are doing God's work ? And the biggest Lie that the world is about to witness ... "Operation Pillar of Defense" which should be called "Operation Pillar of Death".

The play-acting sham od Obama and Netanyahu has now been dropped since the "election" was stolen and now the Zionist Warmonger can show his True Colours ... that of a murdering meglomaniac who "just wants his place in history". Well he shall have it will he not ? Calling up Israel's Reservists, repeated air stikes in Gaza for preparation, another illicit "operation" much worse that the 2008 "success". This one is truly supreme in it's Bad Timing and Recklessness. Netany ahu is playing with matches while sitting on a propane tank which is venting ... what an evil and irresponsible idiot... greed plus ego minus intelligence now threatens to possibly start WWIII... all part of the NWO plan perhaps ?

I think Netanyahu means "stupid and iresponsible violence". As I stated before we need only sit back and wait ... the real agenda and intent is now emerging ... I only wonder why it took him so long ? This goes well beyond "Defense" and being a "victim". I suggest that we both shut up and watch the show. There will be plenty of time afterwards to "play" Spot the Truth ... maybe.

Ta Live Well Die Well

#194155 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:23 am
Targeted assassination of Ahmed Jabari and the outright murder of his son


I won't mourn the death of Hamas' military head.

He was a coward who hid behind the skirts of women and children, putting their lives in danger. Only he is to blame for the death he brought upon anyone in Gaza by firing 120 missiles at civilians yesterday.

Good riddance.






Hamas is responsible for all those that Israel is killing yesterday, today and tomorrow



finally some truth, even if it has to be edited from your sentence.





"Operation Pillar of Defense" which should be called "Operation Pillar of Death".


That's right...and maybe this time they won't play nice like they have in the past. Hamas shouldn't dish it out if they can't take it.


Whatever. You want to support Hamas, who brutally murders their own people? Go ahead.

The defense rests.
#194162 by Vampier
Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:59 am
...Yod your Post is tragic in so many ways. You know that you should not judge or say the things you say and still call yourself a christian or Jew or whatever you claim to be. "Good Riddance" very Godlike.

Israel is responsible for those it kills and no amount of pathetic editing will ever change that Yod. The Truth here is that you twisted it ? Are you really that blatant and crass ?

"That's right ... and maybe this time they won't play nice like they have in the past. Hamas shouldn't dish it out if they can't take it." Just listen to yourself Yod ? You absolutely embarrass yourself.

I never said I ever supported Hammas. I never mentioned them until you added it to your accusations and diatribe. Israel is murdering the Palestinians ... do a reality check here ... you are way out of tune ... with the facts and with the Truth.

The "defense" will never rest until they have all the land of Palestine and Jerusalem and until they have constructed the 3rd Temple there for Satan/Dajal?the Antichrist/ NWO ... whichever you prefer. It most definately will not be God because of the way they have once again turned their back upon him.

Netanyahu is not the only one showing his true colours and faith. I am appalled at what you have said ...sad really.

I am truly sorry for you .

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