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#193234 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:48 pm
To bash the gays is to say they are dirty filthy worthless, short of human worth-yada yada. I have not said anything like that. To put their lifestyle on the pedistal and everyone to vote saying Yes, it is ok, is as immoral as the deed itself. If morality is "gay bashing", I am openly guilty as charged.

#193236 by DainNobody
Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:54 pm
as long as you do not become pre-occupied with the thought of gays, and their place in this world, then you will probably not go crazy.. if you dwell on them enough you will only become more confused .. they are a part of reality, and you should accept reality as God intended for you to accept.. your time is short here on earth so don't come up with a conclusion you know might be erroneous..

#193237 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:56 pm
First time I've seen that. I don't see the Trinity that way. Only those that have shed the Holy Spirit from their souls see it as a golden idol.

#193238 by DainNobody
Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:01 pm
the concept of the Christian Holy Trinity was "borrowed" from an older idea about the Holy Trinity.. who knows what's correct? .. the more theories about the meaning of existence and the reason why we are here, you can study the more opportunity you will have to "put it all together"

#193239 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:01 pm
I would rather become crazy than a pillar of salt. My uncle was crazy. I don't bash crazy people.

#193241 by DainNobody
Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:04 pm
if you ever get a chance, read Carl Jung's "Man And His Symbols".. Dane Ellis Allen is now signng off ... 73's..

#193242 by crunchysoundbite
Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:10 pm
I remember someone here had accused someone else as being retarded. The accused replied saying they had a retarded family member. It was instantly recognizable of the accusers way. Some how, gay is ok, and crazy is ok to use in name calling. By the same that say they don't hate any group.

#193259 by jimmydanger
Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:33 pm
Since morality is different for different people one group's morals cannot be forced on any other group. Even within a particular group morals are dynamic and change over time. Just because your religion teaches that homosexuality or abortion is wrong you have no right to dictate what I believe. This is the primary reason this country was founded - freedom. If you don't like freedom you are in the wrong country.

#193272 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:20 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Since morality is different for different people one group's morals cannot be forced on any other group. Even within a particular group morals are dynamic and change over time. Just because your religion teaches that homosexuality or abortion is wrong you have no right to dictate what I believe. This is the primary reason this country was founded - freedom. If you don't like freedom you are in the wrong country.


That has to be one of your BEST posts EVER! Allow me to simplify it and give it a bigger kick.
TOLERANCE and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

#193273 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:22 pm
If I have to explain that,,,,
YOU DON'T DESERVE,,,,,

FREEDOM!!!!!!

#193275 by Planetguy
Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:26 pm
GLENNY J wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Since morality is different for different people one group's morals cannot be forced on any other group. Even within a particular group morals are dynamic and change over time. Just because your religion teaches that homosexuality or abortion is wrong you have no right to dictate what I believe. This is the primary reason this country was founded - freedom. If you don't like freedom you are in the wrong country.


That has to be one of your BEST posts EVER! Allow me to simplify it and give it a bigger kick.
TOLERANCE and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.



damn...i hate agreeing w glenn (though i bet we could go more than a few rounds defining "personal responsibility") :wink:

#193283 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:40 pm
Thats easy,,,, The moment you hit me, fire on me, you have crossed the point of doing something I would not do to you,,,, Except in this case where you have shown extreme intolerance to me, I would have to believe it was due to something more important than your personal responsibility to me.

Let's say CONTROL.
Let's say CONTROL , again.

Let's say that would go against the value of FREEDOM. 8)

#193323 by PaperDog
Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:57 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Since morality is different for different people one group's morals cannot be forced on any other group. Even within a particular group morals are dynamic and change over time.


Murder is ammoral , so I am told. In this country, you are not allowed to 'murder' anybody. Thus you don't really have true freedom.



Just because your religion teaches that homosexuality or abortion is wrong you have no right to dictate what I believe.


We have the legal right to dictate what we want (except for things like murder) . You have the legal right to ignore them. In any case, I have a right to reject any bill that forces 'me' to pay for 'your' programs and likewise vice versa. That is, until such programs are forced into a tax structure...which seems to be the workaround these days.

The last guy I saw, who said "we should have a law that..." wound up falling off his bar-stool with two shiners...(and they werent Bochs). I was in the back...didnt know whether to laugh or cry for the guy.

#193328 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:12 am
AAHHH MAN,,,
Dawg YOU MISSED ALL MY POINTS. :(

#193334 by PaperDog
Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:30 am
GLENNY J wrote:AAHHH MAN,,,
Dawg YOU MISSED ALL MY POINTS. :(


Au Contrare Glenn I got your points...

But with Jimmy, one must explore the more obscure and precise definitions.

Being told that I should leave my country if I don't like paying money for someone else's moral definitions, should have been obvious to all who read this.

Indeed it is about control, as you said. The best way folks control other folks is to figure the way to get them to empty their pockets. take their resources. Its all the signs of socialism... if you ask me.

You have heard the saying 'death by a thousand cuts...Well, my friend, the knife that makes that happen is called 'Taxes'

SO you see, we do agree...

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