JCP61 wrote:vin,
is a victim of his liberal political philosophy trainers he was enamored with in college.
these fantasy vendors still are hocking the 19th century, when dreams of world domination were alive and well all over europe and their intellectual elitist were on the run to america.
they lost track of the real implications of rising nationalism, believing wrongly that they knew the reasons.
trucking out old quotes by European financiers, long past their sell by date.
imagining the oh so secret conversations at the builderburg dinner.
the world went right past these guys at the end of WWII.
these douchbags at the ivory tower universities are even farther behind the curve than the once wealthy shipping magnates of the Mediterranean.
like their obsession with Schoenberg and the firebird suite, desperatly trying to convince newbies that this is still relevant somehow.
they should learn a new song.
JCP61 wrote:victim of his liberal political philosophy trainers
Heck yeah! She looked like Halle Berry in tight hot pants .. I gave in easy!
Paperdog mentions Schoenberg in a post a couple of months ago ... is that what you refer to? Anyways it was Stravinsky, not Schoenberg, who wrote the Firebird Suite. Maybe you are so flustered by all that modern music stuff and you have it all confused for Elliot Carter, (RIP) whom I did recently mention in a posting?
Thanks for the TV news eye view of history JCP61 .... or was that from Catholic Digest?
A man admired by Bill Clinton (who went to Oxford on a
Rhodes scholarship), and who spent over twenty years researching the subject, Carrol Quigley might be able to give us a more detailed picture, than say,
your local plumber?
From Wikipedia entry on Carrol Quigley:
"In 1966, Quigley published a one-volume history of the twentieth century entitled Tragedy And Hope. At several points in this book, the history of the Milner group is discussed. Moreover, Quigley states that he has recently been in direct contact with this organization, whose nature he contrasts to right-wing claims of a communist conspiracy:
This radical Right fairy tale, which is now an accepted folk myth in many groups in America, pictured the recent history of the United States, in regard to domestic reform and in foreign affairs, as a well-organized plot by extreme Left-wing elements.... This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the Radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.[6]:949-950
According to Quigley, the leaders of this group were Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner from 1891 until Rhodes’ death in 1902, Milner alone until his own death in 1925, Lionel Curtis from 1925 to 1955, Robert H. (Baron) Brand from 1955 to 1963, and Adam D. Marris from 1963 until the time Quigley wrote his book. This organization also functioned through certain loosely affiliated “front groups”, including the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Institute of Pacific Relations, and the Council on Foreign Relations.[6]:132, 950-952
In addition, other secret societies are briefly discussed in Tragedy and Hope, including a consortium of the leaders of the central banks of several countries, who formed the Bank for International Settlements.[6]:323-324"
