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http://www.naturalnews.com/037548_stude ... hools.html

For all those who think government is the answer, joke about those who prize freedom, and think 1984 is not here.

That parents are not marching on the school and city hall is unbelievable commentary on where the Republic is at.

http://www.naturalnews.com/037548_students_micro-chipped_public_schools.html

For all those who think government is the answer, joke about those who prize freedom, and think 1984 is not here.

That parents are not marching on the school and city hall is unbelievable commentary on where the Republic is at.

Children first..... adults later.

Look what I found in a search for microchipping people. It's a section of
the new health (tax) care law. Gee. I suppose those socialist loving dems didn't know that when they passed the bill. Get ready folks. These good old days may be over soon.


http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/07/24 ... obamacare/

How do you know an implanted device is not meant to be a pacemaker?

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... Drums and Slacker, it is comforting somehow to read your Posts despite their depressive content. I thank you.

Lacorogue ..I have not had the pleasure of reading your words before ... may I compliment you on your very well stated Post. You have summed it up very well and I for one am in total agreement with everything you have said. Many thanks for your dose of sanity in this insane time for there are but a precious few here of like ilk but more than one might think I find.

Live Well Die Well Ta

Locorogue brings up industry leaving America. I am curious, maybe someone knows. Is the American military industrial complex still an American industry? I assume it is, but don't know.

I'm having a hard time with this one. And here's why.

Let's look back at school in the old days-

We were expected to show up on time, attend classes. If we weren't there, we had to be able to explain why, and usually have a parent sign off on it.
We weren't allowed to roam the halls between classes without some sort of hall pass
We weren't allowed to speak when the teacher told us to be quiet
Speaking / acting out in the classroom often got you sent to the office and later to detention
You weren't allowed to pass notes, engage in "secret" activity, smoke on school property, and many other things one might associate with constitutional rights.

In fact, as a kid, it was crystal clear that kids did not enjoy the same rights as adults, we lived under our parents (dictators) and the "system" which included school, library, after school events such as dances, sports, etc.. all that had what would be considered draconian rules if applied to adults in any society.

Outside of teachers and school officials, they also had truancy officers, narcs (what we called them, adults who walked around the campus like undercover cops and nailed students for any rule violations), and even student undercovers who reported rule violations directly to the principal.


So these RFID chips...
are not being implanted inside our kids, they are just required to wear them (an ID badge) on themselves. Something I was required to do also when I worked on a large corporate campus.

So everyone here is up in arms about how this is 1984 and total violation of our rights..

But that's a flawed argument- You are attacking the method of finding rulebreakers and citing the rules as the reason. The rules always existed, the only difference here is the method of detection.

Instead of having teachers and narcs in the hallways physically monitoring the kids, they are letting technology do it for them. There's really no difference in what is being done other than the methodology.

NOW, if they wanted to implant, then yeah, we have a problem.. To me that's no different than forced healthcare, which I couldn't be MORE against.

So in our constitutional adult world, why aren't we all so up in arms over there being cameras on every street corner, in every business? Why aren't we up in arms over government spying on americans at will, without warrant? Why are we not storming the capital over the constitution-wrecking patriot act and NDAA? This RFID issue is small potatoes in comparison.

Look what I found in a search for microchipping people. It's a section of
the new health (tax) care law. Gee. I suppose those socialist loving dems didn't know that when they passed the bill. Get ready folks. These good old days may be over soon.


http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/07/24 ... obamacare/

Oh, puh-lease! that website is a bunch of hype that some guy has to promote sales of his books.

The phrasing of the bill, right from that site:
"The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

It does not say everyone has to have a "device". It says that any devices are that used in or on a patient - including pacemakers, hearing aids, testing devices, etc have to be registered. Read the CFR from the FDA on these devices here: http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Devic ... 051530.htm

I just found that under micro chipping. I found it interesting, even if not to be completely correct, at least I found it to be an example of what is on the Horizon.

It starts with the school kids, then the patients, first locator's to protect, then medical implants for history. Then for everyone to protect our country? I can see the progression, can you? Even if that is not totally accurate, how do you know what information is contained in the chip? Drums, Glen, Vamp and others are aware of what is coming. And others see it but do not see how near that day can be.

Did you know that quantum dot memory and spinning nucleus memory hold a great deal of information that could be stored in a very small space?

I read in EET years ago that through Quantum Dot memory techniques 300 full length feature movies could be stored in the space of a postage stamp. That was the assessment at the time. Given, there have been setbacks, but now both technologies are making rather good progress. EET reported that it was a possibility to store the complete library of congress in a single electron years ago. However that manner of storage proved to be unstable over time. However, by spinning the nucleus of an atom is proving to have some retention success, and could be extended through refreshing the spin, much like refreshing the mem in your computer. Things will improve as knowledge is gained in both processes.

How long, after we are able to store the complete history of a person through internet and public records, do you imagine someone will be finding a reason to implant that information contained within a chip within the person?

The governments of this world will take little time to capitalize on these opportunities to have full knowledge of anyone passing by a reader when the technology becomes available.

Disagree?

If so, I guess you do not yet realize the inherent evil in the governments if this world in this age. Anyone who trusts government has some real problems. Anyone failing to see how low they will sink to get what they want hasn't been listening to the trends.

Paranoid much? The original article posted above spelled out details - the chips are in ID cards, not implanted in anyone. Like Kramerguy pointed out, the rules are not really any different than when we were young, the 'powers' are just getting technology to help them enforce those rules (glad I'm not a school kid anymore!) The article mentions 'predators' being able to track kids via these RFID cards - but the fact is RFID readers need to be within 50 feet (much less for portable readers) of the RFID chip, and then you need to have the software to interpret the information on it (it's not like a book, stored in English). I worked for a manufacturer of the first generations of these.

Worried about what can be stored in the 'memory of the future' is really pointless. Technology has progressed in 50 years - the first computers took up whole rooms, used spinning tape machines for bare kilobytes of memory storage, now we can store 64 Gigabytes of memory in a little USB stick that is 3" long. So what? Worried that YOUR information can be stored on a small device, rather than in a big government installation somewhere? With communications the way they are now, does it matter if someone needs to access data 1000 miles away, or stored locally? (no)

Government taking over, no doubt, but its a slow thing and in my lifetime I'm not worried about it.

Paranoid much?

hi mike. welcome to Bandmix. are you enjoying your first day here so far?

and speaking of paranoia...has anyone seen locorogue and vampier together at the same time, same place????

hmmmmmmmmmm. i wonder?

Loco is better looking in his profile pic! Or is that Fabio?

Government taking over, no doubt, but its a slow thing and in my lifetime I'm not worried about it.

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