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#190634 by Kramerguy
Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:01 pm
apparently you need to get a BJ in the white house to be impeached.

I agree with everyone else.

Man have we (as a nation) set the standards low. Forced healthcare at extreme prices, 10,000 wall street crimes unpunished, goldman sachs monopolizing their industry and then stealing the federal reserve to use as a personal piggy bank.. and nobody , NOT ONE person even arrested or investigated, with exception to madoff, who had zero to do with the meltdown (but still guilty of ripping off millions from ppl).

#190636 by PaperDog
Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:08 pm
jw123 wrote:My parents went on Medicare when they hit 65, my dad thought it would actually save them money, he told me the other day that he is paying twice as much for Medicare as he was for his own policy.

Obamacare will be the same, anything the government takes over, over time it becomes more and more expensive, except now, if you dont buy it, then you owe a tax.

My father was reading up on Obamacare, and in there somewhere, at his age if he had to have some serious surgery, a committee will have to meet before it can be performed. WTF, what if he needs something immediately! Say on a friday night? When do you think they will have a meeting to determine if he should have the surgery?

I just dont think the governement should have thier hands in health care.

Just my 2 cents


The reality is that the govt has its hands on the money that pays out for health care. Obama care is an EPIC FAIL, because it does not address the real problem, which is that aspirins cost 60 dollars a pill, to pay the salaries of Hosp Admins.

You were referring to Death Panels. Its very real. The government will ultimately decide the fate of patients, and its all driven solely by money resources. If resources are spread thin, the younger, stronger patients make the short list for support. Its an ugly truth that nobody faces until they arrive there. Its also been that way long before the term "Death Panels" came about.

#190637 by J-HALEY
Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:11 pm
Kramerguy wrote:apparently you need to get a BJ in the white house to be impeached.

I agree with everyone else.

Man have we (as a nation) set the standards low. Forced healthcare at extreme prices, 10,000 wall street crimes unpunished, goldman sachs monopolizing their industry and then stealing the federal reserve to use as a personal piggy bank.. and nobody , NOT ONE person even arrested or investigated, with exception to madoff, who had zero to do with the meltdown (but still guilty of ripping off millions from ppl).


Don't forget we prosecuted R. Allen Stanford. He got a 110 year sentence! He STOLE billions from investors. Some of his former investors are probably eating dogfood!
#190638 by PaperDog
Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:11 pm
fisherman bob wrote:Here I am once again breaking my promise not to bring up political issues, but there's an item that hasn't been explained in these Presidential debates that I'm completely mystified, both for Romney not bringing it up, or Obama defending his actions. I'm talking about the nearly trillion dollar Stimulus package. Why on Earth is Romney ignoring it in his political discourse and Obama not defending it. A trillion damned dollars. Where did the money go? How many jobs were created? Which states got how much money? If it was a waste of money why doesn't Romney talk about it? If it did the country some good why doesn't Obama defend it? I don't get it.
Also neither party is saying much about Obamacare except "repeal" or "keep" it. I want to know the exact reason to repeal or exact reason to keep it. Platitudes doesn't cut it with me. Give me DATA, charts, accounting sheets, something I can grasp facts with. I'm not an idiot and neither are most Americans. This entire debate cycle has been carried on with a "dumbed down" audience in mind. We're not stupid. Dems and Repubs are pathetic, out of touch parties. Neither has the real interests of the American people in mind. I'm fed up.


Bob , you keep breaking your promise cause you know deep down in your heart...you can trust us BandMixers :D :lol:

Trillion Dollar package... They arent talking about it because it implies promises, which they both know they cant (or in the case of obama, couldnt ...keep).

We have no money for such a lofty package. In fact we have no money , period
#190641 by J-HALEY
Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:22 pm
PaperDog wrote:
fisherman bob wrote:Here I am once again breaking my promise not to bring up political issues, but there's an item that hasn't been explained in these Presidential debates that I'm completely mystified, both for Romney not bringing it up, or Obama defending his actions. I'm talking about the nearly trillion dollar Stimulus package. Why on Earth is Romney ignoring it in his political discourse and Obama not defending it. A trillion damned dollars. Where did the money go? How many jobs were created? Which states got how much money? If it was a waste of money why doesn't Romney talk about it? If it did the country some good why doesn't Obama defend it? I don't get it.
Also neither party is saying much about Obamacare except "repeal" or "keep" it. I want to know the exact reason to repeal or exact reason to keep it. Platitudes doesn't cut it with me. Give me DATA, charts, accounting sheets, something I can grasp facts with. I'm not an idiot and neither are most Americans. This entire debate cycle has been carried on with a "dumbed down" audience in mind. We're not stupid. Dems and Repubs are pathetic, out of touch parties. Neither has the real interests of the American people in mind. I'm fed up.


Bob , you keep breaking your promise cause you know deep down in your heart...you can trust us BandMixers :D :lol:

Trillion Dollar package... They arent talking about it because it implies promises, which they both know they cant (or in the case of obama, couldnt ...keep).

We have no money for such a lofty package. In fact we have no money , period


The way I see it you just can't throw your hands up and not try. In the beginning I was ready to give Obama a chance even though I didn't vote for him. Then after seeing how ineffective, divisive, and unwilling to lead ALL THE PEOPLE I started to dispise the man. Now I am ready to give someone else a chance (Romney) if he doesn't do the job he promised and I expect him to do I'll vote for someone else and he'll be out on his @ss! :wink:

#190645 by jw123
Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:02 pm
One thing about Romney is that he doesnt even need the job, he looks at it as challenge in a way that someone like Obama could never look at it.

Im with Haley, Obama has had his time and I cant see anything is really any better, and things hes put in place will cost us out the ass if kept in place. Didnt he promise 6% unemployment and a balanced budget?

With the condition of the country these days, Im suprised anyone wants the job of president anymore.

#190654 by Slacker G
Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:39 pm
Another thing that is just being reported is the MASSIVE voter fraud taking place in early voting. Everything from hundreds of dead, illegals and even voting machines that cast the vote for "fearless Leader" when you vote for Romney.

From the early reports that I have been hearing on the radio it's widespread.

So now we can understand why some object so vigorously when Voter Identification comes up. But then, why else would anyone object to proving who you are when you vote?

I think it would be great if the whole cast of the video "Thriller" showed up in costume and full makeup to vote.

Vote early and vote often. That's the Chicago way.

#190657 by JCP61
Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:44 pm
fisherman bob wrote:
JCP61 wrote:seriously,
this can't possibly be mystifying.
. The Stimulus ad Obamacare being bad for America isn't mystifying. What is mystifying is the lack of a logical explanation coming out of the mouths of leaders.


and why is that mystifying?

#190659 by Planetguy
Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:57 pm
Slacker G wrote: Everything from hundreds of dead, illegals and even voting machines that cast the vote for "fearless Leader" when you vote for Romney.

From the early reports that I have been hearing on the radio it's widespread.



really? you "heard it on the radio"...lemme guess rush windbag, no, no...glen beck....or savage nation...or NPR...yeah, prolly NOT NPR.

for crying out loud are ya gonna believe any and every spew those propagandists hand out?

voting machines that change a vote for romney to a vote for obama??? you REALLY believe that utter nonsense? where's the proof? 'cos some right wing nut w a radio show said it....you actually swallow that crap?

wow? and you're the guy who ends every obama bashing post w a slam about lib's intelligence, brainwashing, and gullibility??????

sorry, slacker...that sheet is side splitting funny. or it would be if folks weren't so brainwashed and so quick to buy into any BS no matter how far fetched it might be if it supports the neocon aggenda.

#190662 by gbheil
Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:29 pm
" The government " does not produce revenue.

How the hell can we expect them to "pay" for stuff for us.

It cannot be done.

#190663 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:40 pm
sanshouheil wrote:" The government " does not produce revenue.

How the hell can we expect them to "pay" for stuff for us.

It cannot be done.


That is one of the most intelligent statements that nobody is saying nationally and most of the the stupid people that just want a FREE 'BAMA PHONE will never understand.

I am not running for a political position, I can say this without fear of losing my "JOB"

God save us,,, These people are crazy.

#190664 by PaperDog
Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:42 pm
All I know is that:

The USA been runnin like rent- to- lease
Run by igoranant social police
No sign that its about to cease...
Took the gold and gave us fleece...
Gave us war and took our peace
Ticks be fallin off this beast!...
We be starvin, while dey feast...
Aint no picnic here , to say the least...
All the pressure just increased
Now they want my Christmas Eve
Raise my kids with Adam and Steve
Heidi hi Ho-Ho-Heidi Hi Heave
I be Outta here bitches ..Gots ta leave ...

peace yall!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#190669 by JCP61
Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:00 am
sanshouheil wrote:" The government " does not produce revenue.


nope
it collects it.

#190671 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:24 am
PaperDog wrote:All I know is that:

The USA been runnin like rent- to- lease
Run by igoranant social police
No sign that its about to cease...
Took the gold and gave us fleece...
Gave us war and took our peace
Ticks be fallin off this beast!...
We be starvin, while dey feast...
Aint no picnic here , to say the least...
All the pressure just increased
Now they want my Christmas Eve
Raise my kids with Adam and Steve
Heidi hi Ho-Ho-Heidi Hi Heave
I be Outta here bitches ..Gots ta leave ...

peace yall!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You just write that?

Very good except for the last line,,, it should BE....

YOU BE OUTTA HERE BITCHES, I AINT LEAVING!!!!

#190672 by JCP61
Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:47 am
OMG

the sitar rapper
:shock:

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