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hmm they say reality has a liberal bias. But really- the fact that fact-check sites are MISSING conservatives could be argued as the very proof that conservatives just aren't interested in actual truth.

Let's be real though, if these sites are SO liberal, how do you explain the fact that they point out the incriminating lies from BOTH parties pretty much equally? The right wing does tend to lie more, so you can't claim a 55/45 slant is really bias if it's the truth, unless of course you want to accuse the truth itself of having a liberal bias...

Perhaps you should get your facts from an unbiased source Kramer!

Well honestly, I kinda checked out of this and many other conversations many days ago. You want unbiased fact-checking, but as I stated, reality itself has a bias, so you are asking for an alternate reality. In all fairness, you state a lot of things as fact, yet come up with nothing but propaganda and fox news, which we all know won the right to lie and call it news in a federal court.

So politifact and factcheck are considered by most experts to be the most substantial and least biased fact sites on the internet, and you dismiss it as biased, even though I believe factcheck has more zingers on obama than romney.. but that matters not, as the only 'facts' you are interested in are the ones that support your positions, regardless if they are technically "facts" because in order to be a "fact", they would actually have to be the truth.

So yeah, the bigger picture in this country is not this puny election between tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum; not immigration, abortion, or gun rights. Those are diversions to make you believe there's any difference at all between these two idiots running for POTUS.

There's a revolution coming. It's inevitable at this point.

hard to get sheep to revolt ...

indeed

If even some of the stuff I have seen that this tyrant has planned for his next term happens there will be no problem getting a good many sheep to revolt.

it takes 2 to tango

Yes it does.... I don't think Obama is the reason. I think he is just the tool.

I think we have some far worse people using an unelected power and accumulated wealth to gain control that has never before been precedented.

I can't explain it. I can't give you facts. I can't point a finger at it. I can't even tell you how, where , when or, why.

I do know something is very, very, wrong.

PLEASE WAKE UP!

Yes it does.... I don't think Obama is the reason. I think he is just the tool.

I think we have some far worse people using an unelected power and accumulated wealth to gain control that has never before been precedented.

I can't explain it. I can't give you facts. I can't point a finger at it. I can't even tell you how, where , when or, why.

I do know something is very, very, wrong.

PLEASE WAKE UP!

Glen, your instincts are correct.

We Americans (as a whole nation) are given over to cheap, shortcuts on everything in our lives. Our Kids cant do any math (and Its beginning to show, by the sheer lack of innovation from younger engineers) , Our kids think the correct way to end an intra-personal relationship is to text it. Kids are severely lacking in a certain modicum of work ethics.... They now believe the stupid notion that if they "will" it, then it MUST fall into place for them. They have been lied to and told they can be anything they want to be... (I want to be an Astronaut starting tomorrow... Just ignore my bad health and incompetence with aeronautics) Is this the fault of the kids? NO! ... It's the fault of their dumb-ass parents, who have failed miserably at initiating their kids the right way on matters of the world and living within it. Kids have not been taught. Parents have Dropped that ball. Sooooo Guess what... America is ripe for predation by rogue fringe groups and even foreign governments

Now I am really disgusted,,, This debate proved that neither of these men are qualified to protect the free world. On top of that Obama, twisted so much that,,,, JUST PLAIN FUUCKING LIES.
Romney,,, JUST A PLAIN WEAK KNEED CANDIDATE.

ARE THERE ANY REAL MEN OUT THERE?

Now Glen, it seems to me you didn't have to watch the debate to come to that conclusion.

I believe the reason real patriots do not run for office is because few have totally clean closets and they know if it is there the cut throat media will find it and use it, even if decades old.

America will never see a real patriot elected to POTUS again. He/she would have to have nerves of steel, and a life of sinlessness on top of it. The Dems can be the party of the KKK, union thuggery, Black panthers, serial sexual abuser rapist presidents, lying frauds like the current occupant, and all is well. But others with a few incidents in their lives which shows some ill-advised actions, be forewarned - your life is toast if you run for office.

Maybe an Allen West could pull it off, but even there who knows what could be dredged up?

Yes it does.... I don't think Obama is the reason. I think he is just the tool.

I think we have some far worse people using an unelected power and accumulated wealth to gain control that has never before been precedented.

I can't explain it. I can't give you facts. I can't point a finger at it. I can't even tell you how, where , when or, why.

I do know something is very, very, wrong.

PLEASE WAKE UP!

For the first time ever, I 100% agree with you.

I can put a finger on it, but you wouldn't want to, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

Go watch the movie about the Koch Brothers, it's labeled as liberal propaganda, but it's frankly non-partisan, and goes right at the plutocrat society and how / why they are ruining the country by infecting politics at every level.