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A great article came out in the Arab news a few days ago that will make this clear that Arabs have been lied to about israel and the jews

Boarding a plane home tonite. Will post it later.

Never hard feelings vamp. Just surprised when someone seeking the truth doesn't find it. Yes, politicians are almost all corrupt but that doesn't mean their policies are always based on lies every time like our dictator does

...YOD... excellent to heart back from you ... thank you very much ...very pleased that you are on your way back safely. I look forward to more info and conversation. It is amazing when one thinks of the "developments" that have transpired since your departure. I am certain that you return more determined than ever in your purpose and I salute you for this.

Yes it does seem that everyone's governments and the parasitic political filth that uses such governments as hosts now lie to the common people as a matter of course. Iran has not ever been immune to this and it's "leaders" masterful handling of certain "proxy" wars in the past further illustrates this I feel. Such simplistic choices are always presented to the masses ... enemy or friend. And the masses buy ??? much like the US does except the greatest and most powerful country in the world does it with much more gloss and hypocrisy.

I hope that one day you will write a book and that I will be fortunate enough to read it. I think that society/civilization has degenerated morally now to such an extent that even if a "policy" be in essence good, by the time the political filth (of any country) touch it and taint it with their lies ... such policy's values are negated through the "process" of passing through the political filth's orifice during which it becomes rotten, devoid of any virtue and wholly diseased in essence.

The Black Messiah has "signed" yet another of his treasured executive orders which specifically is designed to further make the common Iranian people suffer with yet further sanctions. Just think of the children and babies and old people who will die and suffer as a result ... very satisfying if you like that sort of thing. This is a "result" of his latest meeting with Netanyahu and their "agreement" to help one another in re-election and destroying Iran. We will see further steps now in addition to executive order, declaration of early election and so on and so forth.

The lastest Act of War committed by Turkey re the airlines clearly demonstrates that they have the UN and US firmly behind them and that Turkey is being "used" to now force the Atrocity of Humanitarian Destructive Democracy upon Syria.

I look very much forward to hearing your thoughts and words.

Welcome Back Live Well Die Well

...For quite sometime I have believed that Iran does have a few Nuclear Bombs. There are many theories as to where they might have gotten them. Israel has had quite a few bombs as well and not declared them either. There are also a couple theories about where they first got theirs.

What has made me believe that Iran does possess some nukes aside from the obvious fact that you need not know how to or have the capacity to make them to in fact actually possess them ... is that for several years Israel has staged "surgical strikes " using conventional weapons against other countries without any hesitation ... except Iran.

I firmly believe that the reason up to now for Israel not striking Iran is that Israel knows full well that Iran has some nukes and also the means of delivering them ...this is why for years we have heard the rhetoric of Netanyahu and others going on and on about the "danger".

Israel knows that should they strike Iran then Iran would not hesitate to nuke them and wipe Israel off the map. Now however this has changed somewhat ....since Netanyahu had his little meeting with the Black Messiah. Before Israel would never strike Iran because they would be obliterated and did not have the ok by the US to do so ... but now they obviously do so this has emboldened Netanyahu to think that he can get away with it since he has the UN/US behind him and this is percieved as an effective deterent which will prevent Iran from nuking Israel when the "joint" forces of the US and Israel strike Iran.

This is why I believe right after the meeting Netanyahu calls for early election and another executive order against Iran was immediately signed. Also Turkey became even more aggressive and provocative with Syria. Russian troops are at this moment fighting US troops on the Syrian Border and the entire situation is escalating by design.

The desperation for re-election amidst failing popularity has motivated each "hero" to deal with the other and initiate just one of several "wargame" plans or scenarios which are constantly maintained and updated in accordance with situation reports and conditions.

I could well be mistaken and I sincerely hope I am but fear I am not. One thing is certain ... we shall know shortly. What the US did to Iran was nothing compared to what they have planned for Iran ... total obliteration with or without nukes.

The Turks have always historically been known for their bloodthirsty hatred for other cultures from the Greeks to the Arabs. They are easily manipulated and that is what we are now witnessing. Israel's primary goal has never changed ...simple survival amidst and surrounded by countries that hate them. The UN/US are doing the bidding of their AntiHuman Masters...the Puppeteers. The Generals have told the "Commander and Chief" many times that it is a bad idea to attack Iran but ...

The strangling of Syria will only worsen until they provoked and desperate become aggressive themselves. The "October Surprise" may well surprise both it' perpetrators and victims. The AntiHumans care not if Russia and Iran respond or not ... either way they get what they desire.

Ta Live Well Die Well

Vamp, I don't think Israel has the logistical ability to strike Iran on any thing less than a one way strike.
The problem with that is loss of valuable military resource.
Yes, Israel does have nuclear weaponry. Use of that would bring international condemnation.
No, Iran does not have any nuclear weapons yet. Proof,,,, They haven't used any and the don't give a damn about being part of any international community. The moment Iran does have them, they will be launched and the whole middle east will be turned into a glass pile.
Oil prices, food prices and world stability will be,,,, destabilized. The Peaceful religion of muhammad just killed 4 Americans in Libya. Muhammad can suck my toilet clean.

This should be interesting.

Vamp, I don't think Israel has the logistical ability to strike Iran on any thing less than a one way strike.
The problem with that is loss of valuable military resource.
Yes, Israel does have nuclear weaponry. Use of that would bring international condemnation.
No, Iran does not have any nuclear weapons yet. Proof,,,, They haven't used any and the don't give a damn about being part of any international community. The moment Iran does have them, they will be launched and the whole middle east will be turned into a glass pile.
Oil prices, food prices and world stability will be,,,, destabilized. The Peaceful religion of muhammad just killed 4 Americans in Libya. Muhammad can suck my toilet clean.

This should be interesting.

did they ever find those suitcase nukes missing from the Russian arsenal? just sayin'...

Yeah, I walked right past the TSA, and I have them stored in a secret compartment of an oil truck.

They can either be used on the road, or launched with a 16 inch mortar I saved from the 4th of july.


MORONS!

you probably liked getting frisked by the TSA.

you probably liked getting frisked by the TSA.

Yea I got this cute little girl cause I insisted,,,, When I told her I had a loaded gun and it was between my legs she never even checked. Boy was I insulted. She should have been FIRED for incompetence.

Oh well, thank goodness for wives,,, later she declared it illegal and discharged the weapon.

LAUGHING MY AASS OFF YOU MORON!!!!

come on, you know you want to insult me, is that the best you got?

makes you feel better bullying somebody doesn't it?

...Dane ...normally I thank you for your Posts. In this case I entreat you to refrain from posting one or two liners aimed specifically at goading and insulting, in this case Glenn. If you wish to engage in such childishness then start your own thread. I admit that Glenn is often abrasive but if one keeps control and does not resort to insult but continues to hammer their point intelligently then Glenn does not counter and escalate. So I am asking you to remain at least on this thread somewhat on subject ... please.

Everyone has their own opinions and how these are expressed clearly shows the degree of sophistication and intellect involved. Nothing constructive or good can possibly come from such detrimental degenerative diatribe I feel ... except possibly personal embarrassment. I respect your opinions and welcome them. If someone disagrees then think about it, discuss it with your pillow if you are feeling angry and then make your statement. Anger must be tempered with skill.

Glenn, Yod and many others here do not always agree with myself nor one another but that is the purpose of the Forum in this respect. You have no reason to feel challenged in what you say or ego wise ... here you are accepted the same as any who may try to incite you. How you react shows how you are and insulting, goading and anger is not the way to go ... I feel. I hope that you agree or at least think about it and respect my request re this thread.

You often speak of the "suitcase Bombs" I have heard of them but know little in the way of details ... how many went missing, how many megatons, are they dirty, do they have timers or is it strictly a suicide thing, have any turned up and been disarmed, what does Russia say about them?

Ta Live Well Die Well

fair enough vamp, I know you respect GLENNY , and you have your reasons, but some here do not find his offensive mouth amusing..
here is a video about suitcase nukes.. debate it, hate it, you decide..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR2IarjjmxE

...Dane ... I am grateful and appreciate your restaint. I and Glenn went head to head for quite a while after I first came here...until we came to an understanding and now I do consider him a friend. He was without a doubt in a class all his own. You have my respect, appreciation and friendship Dane.

I thank you for your video link ...wow. Very informative and I shall address this later. I now understand why you bring this up often. It is yet another factor to add to the grand total of things that weigh heavily upon one's faith in Mankind.

This Winter is going to be hard and I wish you all the best in surviving it comfortably and healthy. We must all make our "music" as we never have. Ta Live Well Die Well

Glenn...I thank you for you Post re Israel/Iran.

I have heard all sorts re the logistical capabilities of Israel to stage a "surgical strike" against the nuclear facilities in Iran. No doubt you are correct in this regard. I assume that without "help" Israel is at best severely hampered to do this as "completely" as they might desire. This certainly been a factor I agree.

This on it's own does not however disprove my "theory" but merely adds another obstacle to staging a strike. We agree as do many others that Israel has nukes and their failure to ever have disclosed this even now works very much against them I believe. This renders any argument they have nuke-wise against Iran invalid and hypocritical. This invalidates anything they profess in the "political arena" as lies ... I feel. Further if Israel ever feels sufficiently "backed up" or threatened then any possible "International Condemnation" will not matter to them... I believe. They have on several occasions shown their "respect" for International Condemnation regarding their actions in Gaza, Palestine and stopping "international" aid to the point of using unneccesary murder.

I understand your reasoning regarding Iran not having nukes and it is as sound as any and not baseless. The argument could be used in regard to Israel and their nukes drawing the same assumption ..." they do not have any because they have not used them".My point is that I do recognize that they may not in much the same way as I recognize that they may have them. After all of the many countries in the world who do possess them , no one has used them excepting the US.

Regarding Iran not giving a damn about being part of the "International Community" I can only point out that this so-called "International Community" is the same one that invaded Iraq with little justification ... twice ...decimating it. They have invaded Afghanistan, destroyed Libya and are strangling Syria while "imposing"both "humanitarian atrocity and murder ...Democracy ... and constant unrelenting sanctions aimed at the common people of Iran. Also using such dubious organizations as the UN, Friends of Syria, the United Arab Emirates and several terrorist organizations it misnames as freedom fighters ... seriously is it any wonder there is a "reluctance" to join those who clearly desire to destroy you ? The latest stupidity the Nobel Peace Prize to the EU ???? only exposes the sham that the "International Community" really is.

I do not believe that Iran desires to turn the entire Middle East into a glass pile but I do firmly believe they literally "hate" Israel and have no intention of negotiation ...only total destruction. This is terrible and does in fact present the distinct possibility of blowing up the Middle East, so your point is nevertheless very valid ... I admit.

More coming Ta

...Glenn ...I obviously disagree with you regarding "the moment Iran has them, they will use them". Once again everyone else that does have them and admits it ...have yet to use them, even the US in recent history as well as during the "cold war". I would say at this point in my diatribe that Iran is most definately not stupid, at least not any more so than any other country ... ours included. I believe that any "stupid" thing they may do (and they may) will be done because of their religion ... further I believe that this applies across the board and to the "International Community" as well. At this moment the majority of "stupid" things done by anyone are due to religion {hatred}, greed (control) or anger (frustration). Very soon fear will be added to this list. If one wishes to blame religion for death then the Catholic Church wins hands down ... at the moment.

As I have stated I hope I am mistaken and will gladly admit it if I am. News from the "Syrian" front has not been forthcoming recently and this demonstrates to me that it is in fact utterly controlled and manipulated and that "something" is most definately going on there of a subversive nature. I totally agree with you Glenn regarding ...Oil and Food Prices and World Stability. Regarding religion ... Zen Buddhism states that "if you see Buddha on the street ... kill him".

It will be interesting.

Ta Live Well Die Well