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Touched by an Atheist
http://youtu.be/y3EAOydjHYc

I used to be an atheist. Die hard. It's a cold and empty philosophy with no guidance but human frailty all men are subject to. The fact is, atheists do have a god. It is Self.

Yod,

James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Why is "religion" a dirty word to believers when it is in Scripture and carries serious weight of principle with it?

Dude, the bible is entirely made up, MAYBE based on a few people who really existed.

Really? If you feel that way aren't you at the least happy that this Republic was founded on Biblical principles? It is through these principles that you are allowed to believe what you desire to believe, to express what you believe, and to own what you have worked to acquire. These principles both enable you to have a free life and protect you from all who wish to take that which belongs to you. From where, other than the Bible, do these freedoms come?

(ESV) "'And you shall not covet your neighbor's wife. And you shall not desire your neighbor's house, his field, or his male servant, or his female servant, his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's.'

On the other hand you have this regimes Marxist views which allow you to have charge of nothing in your own life. Marxism, Socialism, and Communism believe you to be as an animal to do with as they please. The sanctity of life is not held in high esteem by such as these. Neither are your personal values.

So rally as you shall against religion, it brought you the freedom that you have in America. Those who do not approve of America as it was founded should not attempt to change it. For if they do change it, it shall not be for the better of the individual, and the freedom lost shall not be restored. Rather they should move to a Marxist totalitarian regime and enjoy that lifestyle instead. For if they do that they, at the least, shall have a chance to change their minds and return to freedom some day.

What I write is not for those who can not see or hear. So your opinion is moot. What can you say to the close minded that would matter anyway?

The Constitution is based almost entirely on the Magna Carta. There are references to God in this document, but no mention of the Bible.

I used to be an atheist. Die hard. It's a cold and empty philosophy with no guidance but human frailty all men are subject to. The fact is, atheists do have a god. It is Self.

Speak for yourself.
Just because you were cold and empty doesn't make ALL atheists so.
If you need a book to tell you how to live that is your problem, not mine.

What can you say to the close minded that would matter anyway?

Oh, so true, he who cannot see.

Psa 14:1 (CEV) (A psalm by David for the music leader.) Only a fool would say, "There is no God!" People like that are worthless; they are heartless and cruel and never do right.

Is that from the Quran?

Is that from the Quran?

The Quran is just the bible being badly plagiarized by an Arab sheepherder eating magic mushrooms in a cave.

I used to be an atheist. Die hard. It's a cold and empty philosophy with no guidance but human frailty all men are subject to. The fact is, atheists do have a god. It is Self.

Yod,

James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Why is "religion" a dirty word to believers when it is in Scripture and carries serious weight of principle with it?

Look at those verses. Where do you see religion defined as being submitted and controlled by someone because they went to a seminary?

If you're talking about caring for widows and orphans, then I absolutely support that kind of "religion"

There are many good pastors but I'd say there are more who don't really care about anything but building their own kingdom and using the saints as free labor and funding.

Yeshua's version of authority is based on service and humility. If you have a Pastor who is willing to lay his own life down in service to the people in your community, then you have a biblical model. If your Pastor is looking for ways to help you, as opposed to ways you can help him, then it's a biblical model.

Anything else and you've got "other".

that latest excavation reveals POSSIBLY Jesus had a wife.. that would suck if they had to re-write the Bible again.. St.James knew it was a laborious task to make it fit to modern man's (philosophies(

Yawn. Nothing new. They've tried to prove that forever. It hasn't been and won't be.


But fools will believe whatever lets them off the hook. Oh how they love their lies more than the truth, and it won't be taken from them.

if Jesus was not married, was he not breaking God's Commandment to leave the father and mother to choose a wife and become as one flesh?l

that latest excavation reveals POSSIBLY Jesus had a wife.. that would suck if they had to re-write the Bible again.. St.James knew it was a laborious task to make it fit to modern man's (philosophies(

Yawn. Nothing new. They've tried to prove that forever. It hasn't been and won't be.


But fools will believe whatever lets them off the hook. Oh how they love their lies more than the truth, and it won't be taken from them.

if Jesus was not married, was he not breaking God's Commandment to leave the father and mother to choose a wife and become as one flesh?l

marriage is not a requirement under mosaic law, the verse you quote is describing the state of marriage not a command to undertake marriage.

that latest excavation reveals POSSIBLY Jesus had a wife.. that would suck if they had to re-write the Bible again.. St.James knew it was a laborious task to make it fit to modern man's (philosophies(

Yawn. Nothing new. They've tried to prove that forever. It hasn't been and won't be.


But fools will believe whatever lets them off the hook. Oh how they love their lies more than the truth, and it won't be taken from them.

if Jesus was not married, was he not breaking God's Commandment to leave the father and mother to choose a wife and become as one flesh?l

marriage is not a requirement under mosaic law, the verse you quote is describing the state of marriage not a command to undertake marriage.

Christ modified that later did he not?

"Look at those verses. Where do you see religion defined as being submitted and controlled by someone because they went to a seminary?" Yod

I didn't say I did. One of the reasons I do not currently fellowship with an organized body of believers of any kind, and have not for years now, is because of corruption such as you mention. I got tired of it.

Nonetheless I have also frequently seen the word "religion" tossed about in negative ways by Christians for a couple decades, but the word in Scripture carries no negative connotation.

Mike, I did not say atheists were cold and empty. I said atheism is cold and empty, based solely on the faulty human mind, and does have a god ... Self.

There is no evidence, or logical reason that random chemicals should mutate into creatures who love, who sacrifice, who have and show mercy, let alone develop tear ducts which work in harmony with emotions and incredibly complex mechanics.

If you want to be angry and bitter as you are, that is your choice. Claiming atheism is a superior way of life rather than trusting the information in a book which has survived ages, and you, and shall continue to survive and thrive for people who see its wisdom and power, is man-made reasoning of epic proportions.