General Music Chat

Vinny, that Mtume/Crouch clip was interesting.

The Brian Jones clip, as others asked, just what IS that background sound? Sounds like children singing to me.

To a great degree, if Miles is to be credited with the foundations of Fusion (jazz rock) as a genre, certainly African styles come into play for a lot of it, and I hear it in all the other clips of "free form."

The term Free Form seems to have a number of meanings for people that colors the discussion. Some see it as simply jamming, but as Mtume pointed out that was not the case with Mile's music of the 70s. It isn't the meaning for me, either. It is more than that.

Because we take a trip with no particular destination does not mean we can drive erratically and not obey rules of the road. That would be more my meaning for the music I am currently working with. We follow parameters, but the destination is wherever the road takes us.

Vinny, that Mtume/Crouch clip was interesting.

The Brian Jones clip, as others asked, just what IS that background sound? Sounds like children singing to me.

To a great degree, if Miles is to be credited with the foundations of Fusion (jazz rock) as a genre, certainly African styles come into play for a lot of it, and I hear it in all the other clips of "free form."

The term Free Form seems to have a number of meanings for people that colors the discussion. Some see it as simply jamming, but as Mtume pointed out that was not the case with Mile's music of the 70s. It isn't the meaning for me, either. It is more than that.

Because we take a trip with no particular destination does not mean we can drive erratically and not obey rules of the road. That would be more my meaning for the music I am currently working with. We follow parameters, but the destination is wherever the road takes us.

Thanks!

Besides the 40 or so guys playing the rhaitas and a few on drums, the background sound is the sound of the village's women singing on a hill top nearby, the sound wafting in and out with the wind ... it is a recording of a 3 day ritual celebrating Boujeloud aka Pan.

I think all of the artists that I have mentioned are concerned with form in their music, the freedom is in opening up to forms that may not have traditional recognition or popular understanding.

Here is some cool African music form ... http://youtu.be/RVwJTXz7j98

Cool stuff. Man, those guys were chopping some wood.

And that looked like a sponge over a vase, for bass notes. Far out.

well I would be much more impressed if you were a sophisticated composer instead of such a sophisticated audience.

and you'll be having much more success impressing planetguy with interesting anecdotes about dave brubeck than you will, looking them up on my behalf.

That was my response to Paperdog's observation regarding the wealth amassed by "Take Five".

You are apparently are too uninformed or dull witted to contribute much to any conversation on these topics.

Knowing that it would not impress you, I haven't mentioned that I have compositions that would seem to have been considered sophisticated enough to be used in dozens of TV shows and Films.

yep I'm on the internet,
too much!

Most people do not realize that Brubeck's "Rondo alla Turk" (and later Keith Emerson's "Rondo 69") is a send-up of Mozart's "Rondo alla Turca", one of the most famous piano pieces in classical music. As far as commercial intentions, I think every artist has ambitions of their music being heard by as many people as possible. Just because it is successful does not make the artist a 'sell-out'. Only when an artist intentionally changes their art to increase sales can they be considered a sell-out.

having looked that up lately I found this;

Brubeck heard the unusual "1-2/1-2/1-2/1-2-3" rhythm performed by Turkish musicians on the street. Upon asking the musicians where they got the rhythm, one replied "This rhythm is to us, what the blues is to you." Hence the title "Blue Rondo à la Turk."[1]

The piece is sometimes incorrectly assumed to be based on the Mozart composition "Rondo alla Turca." In 2003, during an interview, Dave Brubeck commented that "I should've just called it 'Blue Rondo', because the title just seemed to confuse people.

Thanks JC. Here's The Nice (Keith Emerson's old group) covering "Blue Rondo". Listen for the snipet of Bach at the beginning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6T1_-Y9KAs

that brings back memories.....
I was obsessed with ELP back in the day.
used to have an album with that on it, as well as five bridges suite, and dylans "my back pages"
some live, some studio
as well as a really nasty tune called "one of those people".

I think it was called "keith emerson and the nice."
god that was a hundred yrs ago.

Yeah I have a few The Nice Albums, one is called "The Five Bridges Suite". They were really cool but I liked ELP even more.