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How very un-Christian of you to challenge someone else's religion. How stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Oba ... y_theories

I must be missing something here. I have never heard him claim to be a Christian. I have heard him allude to something not quite like that when he said If I were a Christian on a clip.

well then, i guess if i don't "claim to be" a jew......it must mean i'm a devout muslim!

really now, what other proof do naive, stupid, gullible, heads in the sand sheep (phew...did i miss any other disparaging characterizations?) need to wake up and see the TRUTH! can i git an AMEN?????

now, y'all repeat it 20x ("planetguy IS a devout muslim") and then we'll all know it must be true!

And the carp chime in against all reason and reality.

And the carp chime in against all reason and reality.

"reason and reality"????? more like chiming in against all lack of reason and reality! not to mention a lack of fully functioning brain cells

oh, damn..there's that pesky perspective thingie again.


"carp"...DAMN, i knew i was forgetting one!

Its fun to cast a line out in the Bandmix Lagoon...never know what kinda fish will bite

Its fun to cast a line out in the Bandmix Lagoon...never know what kinda fish will bite

me...i'm a catch and release kinda guy.

Nowhere did I challenge his religion. I merely listed just a few of his deeds and then quoted a passage in Christian scripture. Scripture requires a believer to evaluate someone through their deeds. (Fruit)

But it is obvious to those who can see what he is.

well then, i guess if i don't "claim to be" a jew......it must mean i'm a devout muslim!

No stupid. I said nothing about his faith, I simply listed some of his deeds. It is as I have quoted. By their fruit you shall know them.

For you illiterate carp. Fruit equals deeds. And I didn't say it, I only quoted it.

You and jimmy should take some reading comprehension courses. But on the other hand it is written that the carnal man cannot understand the things of the spirit. So go in peaceful ignorance.

My reading comprehension is excellent. So good, in fact, that I can see you edited your original post to add all that fruit crap. You will have to do much better than that.

i guess my comprehension skills are pretty good too, jimmy... since i notice that original post was edited TWICE.

I must be missing something here. I have never heard him claim to be a Christian. I have heard him allude to something not quite like that when he said If I were a Christian on a clip.

no doubt you obviously ARE missing something here. since all you have is obama's 'claim' that he's christian......you call it's voracity into questuion. and therefore decide he MUST be a secret devout muslim.

ergo....my mere "claim" that i'm jewish should arouse the same suspicion from you that w only my mere "claim" of being jewish....well there ya go.....i MUST be secret devout muslim.

reading comprehension and following a chain of thought thru to it's logical conclusion don't seem to be YOUR strong suit.

people that live in glass houses shold dress in the basement.

and all this talk about fruit and checking another man's fruit....hmmm.

Jimmy, calling myself a Christian does not make me one, that is correct.

As far as Obama on a Muslim prayer rug, he underwent Muslim religious training when he lived in Indonesia. Be rather limiting common sense to think he never knelt and prayed on a rug as is practiced by Muslims.

Personally I do not believe Obama is anything of any spiritual conviction. I just can observe, based on simple biblical principles, which is my rule of faith and practice, he is not a follower of Jesus Christ.

how does that go...oh, yeah, "judge not lest ye be judged"

Actually, the passage goes like this:

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

And this can be added, as well:

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

In other words, do your homework before you speak.

As far as Obama on a Muslim prayer rug, he underwent Muslim religious training when he lived in Indonesia. Be rather limiting common sense to think he never knelt and prayed on a rug as is practiced by Muslims.

claims that he attended a madrassa there have all been debunked. while his parents lived in Indonesia he did in fact attend a school that was predominately attended my muslims.

but somehow that gets perverted and spun into "he underwent Muslim religious training"

..and round and round the lies and misinformation flies from the right.

Actually, the passage goes like this:

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

And this can be added, as well:

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

In other words, do your homework before you speak.

thanks for the bible lesson. that has imortance and relevance to you. to me...not so much so.


but the point was easily understood, no?

judge not.

Your point is misapplied. We ARE to judge. Not a man's character or motives, which only God can change and know, but as Slacker pointed out, deeds are to be judged. Otherwise you would not have negative things to say about others on this forum if you did not judge their words.