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All religions are just an adaptation of what came previously. "god" is not what you want it to be. Jesus existed as much as Osiris existed. Look to the Zodiac ages to find the correlations with Polytheism, Judaism, Christianity...etc. The belief just mirrors the passing age.

We are entering a new age, the age of Aquarius, now. It's time for all our ancient fairy tales to die....

Just sayin'

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

...typical, funny. You are only right about one thing. The institution part...an institution of delusional, zealot, bigots that have perpetuated the hate, greed and ignorance that plagues this world. Christianity is the greatest lie ever told. Plain and simple. No offense, it serves a purpose, but it is not truth. It has caused more pain and suffering than any institution on the planet, from the beginning of time. It's not the so-called "teachings" of Jesus, that are the problem, it's the mere interpretation of the entire philosophy.

In the Ptolemaic Period, the cult of Serapis was reinvented based on the myth of Osiris
Early Christians in Egypt identified Christ with Serapis, renamed their god to Jesus, and continued their worship as usual
Osiris before death was titled " The Good Shepherd", and Jesus Christ is a shepherd to his followers
Both Osiris and Jesus were killed by treachery from close relationships, Seth and Judas respectively
Osiris and Jesus both suffered a painful death, with sacrifices that were gloomy, solemn, and mournful
The symbol of Osiris was the Djed, which resembles a cruciform form similar to the Cross of Jesus
Both Osiris and Jesus Christ were briefly resurrected, Jesus resurrected after three days of his death and Osiris by the magical spell of Isis
Osiris' and Jesus resurrections served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.
After their respective deaths, both gods became kings in the afterlife, Osiris being the "Lord of the Underworld" and Jesus Christ the "King of Heaven"
They both perform the final judgment of the dead, to decide who should join their Kingdoms and be granted eternal life.
In 350 A.D., Pope Julius 1 decreed that the birth of Jesus would be celebrated on the same date as all of the other solstice sun gods – December 25.
Other major birthdays celebrated December 25 included those of the gods:
Marduk… Osiris… Horus… Isis… Mithra… Saturn… Sol… Apollo… Serapis and Huitzilopochtli.

I understand you can not argue with an Atheist (which I am not), nor can you argue with an over zealous christian...however, I can continue if you'd like??

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

...typical, funny. You are only right about one thing. The institution part...an institution of delusional, zealot, bigots that have perpetuated the hate, greed and ignorance that plagues this world. Christianity is the greatest lie ever told. Plain and simple. No offense, it serves a purpose, but it is not truth. It has caused more pain and suffering than any institution on the planet, from the beginning of time. It's not the so-called "teachings" of Jesus, that are the problem, it's the mere interpretation of the entire philosophy.

In the Ptolemaic Period, the cult of Serapis was reinvented based on the myth of Osiris
Early Christians in Egypt identified Christ with Serapis, renamed their god to Jesus, and continued their worship as usual
Osiris before death was titled " The Good Shepherd", and Jesus Christ is a shepherd to his followers
Both Osiris and Jesus were killed by treachery from close relationships, Seth and Judas respectively
Osiris and Jesus both suffered a painful death, with sacrifices that were gloomy, solemn, and mournful
The symbol of Osiris was the Djed, which resembles a cruciform form similar to the Cross of Jesus
Both Osiris and Jesus Christ were briefly resurrected, Jesus resurrected after three days of his death and Osiris by the magical spell of Isis
Osiris' and Jesus resurrections served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.
After their respective deaths, both gods became kings in the afterlife, Osiris being the "Lord of the Underworld" and Jesus Christ the "King of Heaven"
They both perform the final judgment of the dead, to decide who should join their Kingdoms and be granted eternal life.
In 350 A.D., Pope Julius 1 decreed that the birth of Jesus would be celebrated on the same date as all of the other solstice sun gods – December 25.
Other major birthdays celebrated December 25 included those of the gods:
Marduk… Osiris… Horus… Isis… Mithra… Saturn… Sol… Apollo… Serapis and Huitzilopochtli.

I understand you can not argue with an Atheist (which I am not), nor can you argue with an over zealous christian...however, I can continue if you'd like??

simple conjecture
God according to the word of google
how fashionable, how very modern
I love it when people try to do away with God without knowing if he was there in the 1st place.

simple conjecture
God according to the word of google
how fashionable, how very modern
I love it when people try to do away with God without knowing if he was there in the 1st place.

lol, "God according to Google" as opposed to God according to the Bible??
Actually, I studied Religion and Philosophy at a Catholic College. I have spent years practicing meditation, fasting and searching. I have conversed with Catholic Priests, that begin to question their faith, in their later years, based on empirical evidence. I have never tried to do away with god. I simply understand a different meaning of the word. When I hear or see others arguing a point of "who's right, who's wrong, my god over your god", I feel inclined to lend some insight.

and so you formed an opinion
but that's all it is an opinion.
not insight in any way.
you have no evidence that anyone used anyone else to establish new versions of The God in question, or if they were were were referring to each other when citing any supposed interaction with any deity.
you drew a few parallels based on thing that appear similar to you, and believe you have found some insight into anthropological phenomenon.
but it is pure conjecture based on a partial observation with many facts missing, most of which are not recoverable.
but like all faulty and false prophets, you decide to go ahead with the lesson.

I am a firm believer in creationism.
Man created God in his own image.

I am a firm believer in creationism.
Man created God in his own image.

good luck with that!

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

...typical, funny. You are only right about one thing. The institution part...an institution of delusional, zealot, bigots that have perpetuated the hate, greed and ignorance that plagues this world. Christianity is the greatest lie ever told. Plain and simple. No offense, it serves a purpose, but it is not truth. It has caused more pain and suffering than any institution on the planet, from the beginning of time. It's not the so-called "teachings" of Jesus, that are the problem, it's the mere interpretation of the entire philosophy.

In the Ptolemaic Period, the cult of Serapis was reinvented based on the myth of Osiris
Early Christians in Egypt identified Christ with Serapis, renamed their god to Jesus, and continued their worship as usual
Osiris before death was titled " The Good Shepherd", and Jesus Christ is a shepherd to his followers
Both Osiris and Jesus were killed by treachery from close relationships, Seth and Judas respectively
Osiris and Jesus both suffered a painful death, with sacrifices that were gloomy, solemn, and mournful
The symbol of Osiris was the Djed, which resembles a cruciform form similar to the Cross of Jesus
Both Osiris and Jesus Christ were briefly resurrected, Jesus resurrected after three days of his death and Osiris by the magical spell of Isis
Osiris' and Jesus resurrections served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.
After their respective deaths, both gods became kings in the afterlife, Osiris being the "Lord of the Underworld" and Jesus Christ the "King of Heaven"
They both perform the final judgment of the dead, to decide who should join their Kingdoms and be granted eternal life.
In 350 A.D., Pope Julius 1 decreed that the birth of Jesus would be celebrated on the same date as all of the other solstice sun gods – December 25.
Other major birthdays celebrated December 25 included those of the gods:
Marduk… Osiris… Horus… Isis… Mithra… Saturn… Sol… Apollo… Serapis and Huitzilopochtli.

I understand you can not argue with an Atheist (which I am not), nor can you argue with an over zealous christian...however, I can continue if you'd like??

Here is some more entertaining conjecture ... http://youtu.be/mOu9tV6uy2E

I am a firm believer in creationism.
Man created God in his own image.

Yes, that is what happens most of the time actually.

It's just so much easier to make uninformed comments of religious bigotry.

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

...typical, funny. You are only right about one thing. The institution part...an institution of delusional, zealot, bigots that have perpetuated the hate, greed and ignorance that plagues this world. Christianity is the greatest lie ever told. Plain and simple. No offense, it serves a purpose, but it is not truth. It has caused more pain and suffering than any institution on the planet, from the beginning of time. It's not the so-called "teachings" of Jesus, that are the problem, it's the mere interpretation of the entire philosophy.

In the Ptolemaic Period, the cult of Serapis was reinvented based on the myth of Osiris
Early Christians in Egypt identified Christ with Serapis, renamed their god to Jesus, and continued their worship as usual
Osiris before death was titled " The Good Shepherd", and Jesus Christ is a shepherd to his followers
Both Osiris and Jesus were killed by treachery from close relationships, Seth and Judas respectively
Osiris and Jesus both suffered a painful death, with sacrifices that were gloomy, solemn, and mournful
The symbol of Osiris was the Djed, which resembles a cruciform form similar to the Cross of Jesus
Both Osiris and Jesus Christ were briefly resurrected, Jesus resurrected after three days of his death and Osiris by the magical spell of Isis
Osiris' and Jesus resurrections served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal.
After their respective deaths, both gods became kings in the afterlife, Osiris being the "Lord of the Underworld" and Jesus Christ the "King of Heaven"
They both perform the final judgment of the dead, to decide who should join their Kingdoms and be granted eternal life.
In 350 A.D., Pope Julius 1 decreed that the birth of Jesus would be celebrated on the same date as all of the other solstice sun gods – December 25.
Other major birthdays celebrated December 25 included those of the gods:
Marduk… Osiris… Horus… Isis… Mithra… Saturn… Sol… Apollo… Serapis and Huitzilopochtli.

I understand you can not argue with an Atheist (which I am not), nor can you argue with an over zealous christian...however, I can continue if you'd like??

First Off , You say "sorry , no offense" but that just comes off disingenuous .Please , no need to blow smoke up my ass. Yo have successfully offended me. Do you feel better now? But lets get past that, shall we. So, you think you are the master of dialectics here?

1) You will need to specify your definition of "Early" Christians. There were real Christians, and then there were "Offshoots" of Christianity or as you like to drop: "Cults" Its not important to me that you cant prove to me that Christianity is a cult. It is important to me that own a cell phone and read through the entire contract, obtaining a full command of your leverage on the deal, but also that you concede that the message of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) is completely lost on you.

Your turn

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

Here is some more entertaining conjecture ... http://youtu.be/mOu9tV6uy2E

I couldn't watch the entire vid, so not sure if you're pro or anti or what your saying exactly, but IMO there are huge correlations btwn religion/soul/God and psychedelics.

Lots to learn from the Fun Guy.

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

1) You will need to specify your definition of "Early" Christians. There were real Christians, and then there were "Offshoots" of Christianity or as you like to drop: "Cults" Its not important to me that you cant prove to me that Christianity is a cult. It is important to me that own a cell phone and read through the entire contract, obtaining a full command of your leverage on the deal, but also that you concede that the message of Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) is completely lost on you.

Your turn

You lost me a bit with that one, but Early Christians would be pre Catholic doctrine and rule (the Gnostics, etc...) Those that lived during the "time of christ". The gentiles worshiped the bull, the Jews hold the ram as sacred, jesus was a fisher of men and is commonly recognized by the sign of the fish......The last 3 astrological ages in succession were Taurus (the bull), Aries (the ram), and currently Pisces (the fish), (soon to be Aquarius). You see where I'm going with this?? My only point is that it's bigger than jesus or christians or jews or muslims or whatever. People get locked into these belief systems and deny themselves truth. There is more out there if your soul grows hungry with what you've been fed.

Again, I said there is nothing wrong with the message. It serves a purpose, it brings people together, it gives people hope, because the true message is LOVE. Do I feel there is a problem with the dogma, of course.

there is nothing wrong with the message. It serves a purpose, it brings people together, it gives people hope, because the true message is LOVE.

I perceive that you are not far from the Kingdom of God

I feel there is a problem with the dogma, of course.

Many christians have a problem with it too. One needs to separate dogma from reality, but reality always depends on perspective. If we stick only to what we know is true, then the truth will lead us into the best reality possible.

Biblically speaking, when one says they are a "christian" it means they trust as fact that a lowly religious teacher in a small village on the northern coast of the Galilee suffered the most horrible form of execution imaginable as a sin offering for all of mankind. Furthermore, that this person came out of the grave 3 days after being shut behind an enormous stone, as proof that He was who He claimed to be.

As a former atheist, I completely understand and respect those who find these claims hard to believe. Especially if you're not seeing it from the people shouting this message with a critical finger.

The message of the cross is preferring others over yourself, as the King of Glory did when He humbled Himself for us. From a purely psycological viewpoint, that would solve all the problems of the world if everyone approached life with that goal.

But the Cross is a radical concept and challenge which not very many people are prepared to accept, even when they have received forgiveness from God. I ask you to forgive any person who called themselves "christian" and failed as an example. I'm guilty of it all the time, getting angry when it's not my fight after all.

We should all learn to live by the golden rule: "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you", but again reality always depends on perspective and most live by satan's golden rule which is "Looking out for #1". Sadly that is true even in the institution known as the church. Their judgment will be most severe; but there will be no good excuses for anyone.

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

Here is some more entertaining conjecture ... http://youtu.be/mOu9tV6uy2E

I couldn't watch the entire vid, so not sure if you're pro or anti or what your saying exactly, but IMO there are huge correlations btwn religion/soul/God and psychedelics.

Lots to learn from the Fun Guy.

One could say that I tend to be agnostalgically curious about what appears to be happening ... ... that we call "life". Religions seem to have developed from a primal need for an explanation of our existence. As has science, which has debunked many assertions made by various religions .. Galileo etc. .. but still falls very short of understanding the universe, or how humans are able to wonder about it. It would be very difficult to rule out the influence of psychedelics on religious experience and thought.

Osiris, Just a pattern of stars , Christ...an entire institution, Aquarius - Anthony Hopkins.

Here is some more entertaining conjecture ... http://youtu.be/mOu9tV6uy2E

One could say that I tend to be agnostalgically curious about what appears to be happening ... ... that we call "life". Religions seem to have developed from a primal need for an explanation of our existence. As has science, which has debunked many assertions made by various religions .. Galileo etc. .. but still falls very short of understanding the universe, or how humans are able to wonder about it. It would be very difficult to rule out the influence of psychedelics on religious experience and thought.

Vinny, I agree with what you are saying. I feel the age old debate between science and religion is a moot point. Science explains a lot, but not everything. Western religion offers insight but then jumps to blind faith based fantasy to resolve where science falls short. Personally, I feel in order to bridge the gap, a more transcendental, middle path, zen approach is necessary. "God is everything and God is nothing" How do you argue with that?