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#187352 by GuitarMikeB
Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:40 pm
These videos are up on my profile too:
Opening song
http://youtu.be/bb2EScSKMQw
One original I did:
http://youtu.be/3CPUpwSF-TE

Never can predict how traffic will be getting into the city on the weekend, so we were early. Other band guys were there already, but the room where everything was to be set up was filled with a bunch of UCLA (?) alumni watching a football game on the big screen. The guys organizing the open mic had to wait for the game to end before setting up.

During Friday night's practice, the details on the thing all changed - they had been telling me this would be an hour opening set, in reality it was 30 minutes, maybe an extra 10 minutes, depending on timing. I only discovered this when Steve started talking about picking which songs to do in the set list - he had already pared it down to 1 hour.
So we went on at about 9:45 and did 7 or 8 songs. The alumni had cleared out and the room was mostly the 5 people Steve had brought, my wife and the others there for the open mic.
After us, a trio called the Grey Dogs played - a couple in their mid-60s, him on mandolin, she on upright bass, with a younger guitarist. They opened with 'Panama Red', but the mando player sang so softly you could barely here it. Then Maggie Mae, with the woman singing, but not remembering the words (even with a lyric sheet in front of her) and at one point they all got lost. They did a couple of other songs including a Dead cover.
Next was a solo guitarist I had talked to earlier . He said this was his 7th open mic night in a row, from Colorado, visiting his girlfriend. He recruited our bass player and the mando player from the Grey Dogs to play with him, did one original and 3 rock songs like Dead Flowers, strumming pickless on a nylon-stringed guitar. Not bad, but not good either.
When I had told the organizers I wanted to do a solo set, they put me on last, but another person showed up - 'Lisa the singing poet'. My wife went to the ladies room at one point and Lisa was in one of the stalls warming up!
She got up to play (or sat down -sitting in a chair where no one could see her, if there had been anyone left in the place). She fingerpicked guitar very well, but then sang off-key her poems which were all like "you may think I'm strange, but ...".
Anyway, it was 11:30 by the time I got up there and I rushed through (literally) 5 songs to the almost empty place (Lisa had cleared out a few stragglers already).

Now I'm wondering if all open mics around here turn up these unprepared/unready-to-play-out folks, or if this was a fluke! My wife is usually my worst critic, but she said I was the best one there that night.

#187356 by jimmydanger
Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:06 pm
Places that have open mic on Friday or Saturday night are suspect; if they can't have actual bands on those nights they probably don't have much clientele. A weekday night is much better for open mic. I used to host an open mic on Thursdays for almost seven years!

#187358 by GuitarMikeB
Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:14 pm
The solo guy on Saturday mentioned openmics.org - pretty extensive listings, searchable. Of course all need to be verified for current status.
I see he posted some pictures from Saturday, too (but he left before I did my solo stuff), however, the open mic at that place is now off the table - 'Jack Daisy' will be playing both Friday and Saturday nights.

#187403 by gbheil
Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:14 am
How is it that all the magic of a live performance is totally lost in video?

Not being disrespectful, just a though provoking question.

Why is it ( and what ) that makes a great live performance & a great video?

And why is never the same?

#187410 by PaperDog
Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:10 am
sanshouheil wrote:How is it that all the magic of a live performance is totally lost in video?

Not being disrespectful, just a though provoking question.

Why is it ( and what ) that makes a great live performance & a great video?

And why is never the same?


I have learned just recently and the hard way, that bad lighting can ruin the magic... Performance is as much a physical experience for the audience as the aural one is. With bad lighting , you get none of the important visual nuances associated with good , meaningful performance.

#187419 by GuitarMikeB
Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:08 pm
Around here these days, most bars that have music acts don't even have a stage, they just move tables and chairs out of the way. So there is no stage lighting, nothing to make people in the room focus and LOOK.
If you're a full band with PA system, etc, you can bring a light tree or two, but what's to be done for the small act - solo/duo/trios - with limited space to set up?

#187495 by gbheil
Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:05 am
Again I must for learning sake play devil's advocate.

Please take no offense as this will likely sound rather harsh and not intended as such.

The videos, I found rather dry, most lifeless.
Though I know if I had been in the room I would have immensely enjoyed the songs.

Yes, I understand the energetics aspect of person to person interaction.
Even group energies interplay.
( after all, I am not only a musician but a warrior as well )

What is that essence that is essential?
And how is it interjected into video format?

( no I'm not smoking pot, perhaps I should LOL )

#187500 by PaperDog
Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:42 am
sanshouheil wrote:Again I must for learning sake play devil's advocate.

Please take no offense as this will likely sound rather harsh and not intended as such.

The videos, I found rather dry, most lifeless.
Though I know if I had been in the room I would have immensely enjoyed the songs.

Yes, I understand the energetics aspect of person to person interaction.
Even group energies interplay.
( after all, I am not only a musician but a warrior as well )

What is that essence that is essential?
And how is it interjected into video format?

( no I'm not smoking pot, perhaps I should LOL )


Its down to the diff between a 3d and a 2d experience... Organically, to recognize the essence of anything, necessarily requires the lens of all 6 senses to extrapolate the view. A video only allows for two of those senses (And that assumes the lighting and sound are on par)

That's the best answer I can think of...even if its wrong...It sounds damn good ... :lol:

#187511 by GuitarMikeB
Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:00 pm
George said:
What is that essence that is essential?
And how is it interjected into video format?


Good questions for discussion!

Another one, that I asked: RE lighting - what's to be done for the small act - solo/duo/trios - with limited space to set up?

#187576 by GuitarMikeB
Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:02 am
sanshouheil wrote:Something simple perhaps just some up lighting . . .

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... strip-mini

Or more elaborate a single tree . . .

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... ng-package

Or even really inexpensive . . .

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... ated-light


The $99 LED one looks pretty good, the $40 one got bad reviews. The tree one is too big for the average duo act in a bar. There's barely enough room for one speaker on a stand in these places!

#187579 by gbheil
Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:46 am
I did not check the reviews . . . glad you did.
I've had good luck with the LED equipment we use.

A simple up light I feel would really enhance a performance.
Set the sound active sensitivity and let it roll. 8)

The fog, sound active LED lighting, and the laser get BIG responses from the younger folk. And even the older ones have told me how much it adds to the performance.
Since I don't use effects pedals ( much ) I do my tap dancing on the switches that control the four "levels" of effects we use.
Also something one might consider in his road gear.

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#187589 by GuitarMikeB
Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:53 pm
Will definitely keep the LEDs in mind. Need some powered PA cabinets first. Hoping that if I find a new 'partner', he will have them or invest them, since I've got the mixer.

#187634 by gbheil
Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:10 am
GuitarMikeB wrote:Will definitely keep the LEDs in mind. Need some powered PA cabinets first. Hoping that if I find a new 'partner', he will have them or invest them, since I've got the mixer.



Best wishes and prayers for your continued success.

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