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#187007 by Slacker G
Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:15 pm
http://www.realclearmarkets.com/article ... 99890.html


The Emerging Obamacare Truth Is Disarray
By Scott Gottlieb

A remarkable truth about Obamacare is how many aspects of its initial programs and initiatives are already in disarray.

The Obama team is woefully behind its own schedule for implementing features of the legislation. The critical regulations outlining what the Obamacare insurance benefit will look like was supposed to be out more than six months ago. Now it looks like this regulation won't be dropped until after the election. This is just one key aspect of the program that is way behind the administration's own timeline.
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These facts alone should give proponents of the law pause. But the early experience with the elements of Obamacare that have already kicked in is downright dismal.

The core of Obamacare doesn't get started until 2014, when state-based exchanges are supposed to be formed as places for consumers to buy the legislation's tightly regulated, subsidized coverage. But early features of Obamacare are already failing.

· The temporary "high risk" pools that Obamacare created, to provide a way for those with pre-existing health conditions to get insurance immediately, are undersubscribed yet way over budget. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the $5 billion allocated to these pools could enroll 200,000 consumers. They envisioned enrollment growing to more than 400,000. But only 77,877 have signed up as of July, yet the program is way over its budget. More than a quarter of these state-based risk pools are short on cash.

· The CLASS Act, which was supposed to provide consumers government-financed long-term care insurance has been abandoned, blowing an $86 billion dollar hole in Obamacare's cost estimates. The CLASS Act was never financially viable. Its costs would have outstripped revenue as soon as it was in full operation. But since it took in money five years before it started to pay out benefits, budget gimmickry let Mr. Obama capture that revenue and use it to finance Obamacare. In abandoning the measure, the President's own health secretary called the scheme "unsustainable."

· The crown jewel of Obamacare's effort to contain healthcare costs, the creation of Accountable Care Organizations, is so unwieldy that major provider groups have said they won't participate. The idea is to consolidate doctors, turning them into employees of large systems, and then pay these systems lump sums of money to take care of groups of patients. A letter from 10 major medical groups that previously ran similar programs said, "it would be difficult, if not impossible" to accept the financial design created by Obamacare. In another rebuke, an umbrella group representing premier medical organizations said 90 percent of its members wouldn't partake.

· New regulations Obamacare puts on insurers have been so unworkable that the Obama team has had to dole out 1,231 waivers. These exemptions are granted when the Obamacare rules are projected to raise healthcare premiums more than 10 percent, or create a "significant decrease in access to healthcare benefits." These waivers haven't been doled out consistently. Entities winning the preferences are over-represented by plans offered by unionized businesses and other administration allies.

· Obamacare can't even settle on an affordable definition to the term "affordable" -- creating the prospect that millions of middle class families will get priced out of coverage. According to a recent editorial in the New York Times, "the people left in the lurch would be those who had lower incomes but were not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid." Because of the way Obamacare defines what's "affordable" to these families, many working-class people would be unable to afford family coverage offered by their employers, and yet they would not qualify for subsidies provided by the law.

Probably out of recognition of this poor track record, the President points largely to the insurance reforms he passed when he is stumping for Obamacare. The story isn't much better here. Some of these new rules cost insurers money, such as regulations ending lifetime limits on medical claims. Others, such as enabling young adults to remain on their parents' policies, can be downright lucrative. But these popular changes, which Mr. Obama touts as a success, have also been badly implemented.

We're in a terrible economic climate, where medical utilization trends are way down. The cost of healthcare coverage should be falling as well. But premiums have risen far faster than overall inflation or GDP growth since Obamacare's passage. The regulations kicked in with no offsetting incentives to get people into the insurance pool to help absorb the costs. If the President wants to take credit for these costly insurance market reforms, he also has to accept blame for the rising costs.

So what's left for the President to tout?

Not much. Obamacare isn't even in full swing, and at every turn, the program is crumbling. The President's team is banking on a second term to try and right all of its fiascos but there's an emerging truth that the scheme is simply unworkable.



American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Resident Scholar Scott Gottlieb, M.D. is a practicing physician. He previously served in senior positions at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS).

#187014 by JCP61
Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:35 pm
this is another way of saying,
they couldn't pass it without giving every ONE everything they wanted.
thereby creating a massive insurance scam, that hasn't got a leg to stand on.
it will most likely collapse under it's own weight.

#187183 by MikeTalbot
Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:54 am
The constitution is a bad joke. Lincoln proved that and it's been downhill ever since.

What good is a piece of paper if no one pays it any mind?

Due to lack of education Americans, if they have any opinion of all, seem to think the Supreme court is the only adjudicator of what's constitional. Wrong.

the congress and executive branches are supposed to weigh in on that as well and guide their conduct by it. Right....

Ultimately, the states have two remedies: nulllification and secession. Good luck with that.

It's over.

Talbot

#187185 by DainNobody
Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:02 am
I've heard talk that Texas will try to secede from The Union if Obama is re-elected.. prolly just a rumour..

#187292 by PaperDog
Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:44 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I've heard talk that Texas will try to secede from The Union if Obama is re-elected.. prolly just a rumour..



Texas wont have to leave, All we have to do is sit and watch:

Just ask James Carville, a staunch democrat:

“Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology. The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd. Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality. What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want. The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans. Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you're smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That's why I'm a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.” ― James Carville (via John Sullivan)

#187305 by Slacker G
Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:06 pm
PaperDog wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I've heard talk that Texas will try to secede from The Union if Obama is re-elected.. prolly just a rumour..



Just ask James Carville, a staunch democrat:

“Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology. The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd. Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality. What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want. The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans. Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you're smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That's why I'm a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.” ― James Carville (via John Sullivan)


Some pretty ugly truth there Bro... Then what is next if this tyrant gets his professed Utopian dream? I would suggest Dystopia to be the logical progression. This ungodly tyrant is killing our jobs, giving us a third world power grid, taking away natural resources.... I suggest that he would be more than happy to see us all in one room huts freezing in the winter and broiling in the summer with food shortages and the likes.

When I look more closely, his vision for America already leans more towards Dystopia than Utopia.

#187307 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:32 pm
Slacker, I have been saying the same thing in so many posts on different points,,, We gotta stop peeing in the wind. I want my food stamps, welfare check and SS disability. Why the hell should I work when we have all these wealthy people and a goberment that has unlimited money.
Damn,, These Miami cheerleaders are gorgeous!!! I don't care if the Jets are losing.

#187310 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:33 pm
PaperDog wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:I've heard talk that Texas will try to secede from The Union if Obama is re-elected.. prolly just a rumour..



Texas wont have to leave, All we have to do is sit and watch:

Just ask James Carville, a staunch democrat:

“Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology. The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd. Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality. What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want. The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans. Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you're smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That's why I'm a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.” ― James Carville (via John Sullivan)






We've seen this all over the media and every discussion board. They simply do not think for themselves, nor do they know how to critically analyze what they are told.



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#187313 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:50 pm
Jets /Miami Overtime...

Geeze I wish they show more of those Miami cheerleaders.

#187316 by RGMixProject
Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:02 pm
yod wrote:
We've seen this all over the media and every discussion board. They simply do not think for themselves, nor do they know how to critically analyze what they are told.



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#187318 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:05 pm
Jets win in overtime,,,

Those Miami cheerleaders are true AMERICANS. Thank you. :)

#187337 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:36 pm
You are welcome... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#187361 by Kramerguy
Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:42 pm
Well as far as 'socialized' healthcare goes, I do understand the need for it- and it works in far more countries, successfully, than it does in 'for profit' nations like ours. Look at the stats- we're nearly last place in healthcare quality and nearly the highest in cost- and all that was a pattern before obamacare- or should we call it romneycare? It's evidently the same thing.

When I started reading about the back-room deals and how the insurance companies were meeting with congress and the white house teams, and the 'public option' and ability to negotiate pharma costs was off the table, I knew that once again, that the corporate fascists won yet another huge victory over the american people.

If anyone here thinks romney will do anything different than maintain the status quo with healthcare-rape, you are sadly mistaken- his own track record speaks much more truth than his big fat lying mouth. Same with obama. They are both corporate-owned and neither have any of our best interests in mind.

Back to the topic- some of the best and most affordable healthcare in the world is 100% socialized. The bottom line is that your well-being shouldn't be held hostage to huge profits. There was a time that it was 'affordable' to go through life without the need for insurance, and the budget for general healthcare was much smaller- now it's considered 'discretionary spending' which is BS.

#187364 by Slacker G
Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:18 pm
Socialist health care systems in other countries have nothing to do with this health care legislation which is mostly about population control and raising taxes with little to do with actual health care.

The tyrants that wrote most of this health care legislation (Most is being written today in order to put in mandates that wouldn't have let it get passed by the traitor John Roberts) are power hungry self serving bastards who do not represent the people who own our constitution and this government and it was done against the will of the people.

#187366 by Kramerguy
Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:43 pm
I don't disagree with you slacker-

most laws they write today fit that description.

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