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Are now the flag bearers of their respective parties. One is an elitist oaf who has lost 17 out of 22 elections he has participated in, another is a far left wing theorist who previously never ran anything in his life...

I remember the old guys back in the day (70's) saying neither one of the candidates are any good! Thats when Jimmy Carter got elected! I think we all know how that turned out! It seems we have a choice. Mine would be the lesser of two evils just like it was in the 70's? Hopefully history won't repeat itself I am not holding my breath! After all we are dealing with human nature here!

The election isn't about which candidate has the best record of winning.. that is the peoples choice, at least for now. Both suck. But one wants total power over you, while the other wants eventual power over you. One is a wanna be dictator, the other is a progressive. It is not about how the lying media portrays them in order to discourage you into voting for who they support. This is about imposed equality, which is measured by world standards. This regime wants us to be equal with the working classes of China, North Korea, with Africa. They want us ALL TO OWN NOTHING. They want to own everything, including you. Every time equality is imposed the people s standard of living is downgraded, not upgraded. The poorest of the poor are the standard, not the rich. Those on top will get more, the rest will get less.

The issue is do you want what little freedom you have left under the constitution... the right to live free or the choice to live under the endless dictates of an regime that legislates your every move. The rights you have under YOUR constitution, or the erosion of all your rights one right at a time. We are seeing that happen every day under this regime.

It is the choice between the right to own your own home and pass it on to your children should you choose to do so, or for the government to own your home and give it to whomever they choose. The right to eat what you want to eat, or to be taxed for not eating what the regime says you should eat. The right to free speech or penalty of imprisonment for speaking out against injustice. The right to own transportation of your choice or being forced to purchase government approved transportation priced above what you can afford. The right to choose health care of your choice or being forced to wait to get treated at a government facility. (The VA is a good example of how that will work.... 2 to 5 months to get in for treatment if they decide they can afford it) Basically to get treated or to be refused treatment. ( The VA refuses many treatments. based on how much money it is allotted) The right to watch your big screen TV or to be priced out of being able to watch it. The right to have your smart phone or a government phone down the line with limited access. Think not? Wait and see. Your fuel consumption will be monitored, your home temperature will be monitored, your electricity and gas usage will be portioned, and on and on and on. Just like under any Socialist, or Marxist, or Communist regime. It is the right to keep the fruit of your labor, or to work for them so the ruling class can keep more. Work for your family, or work for the regime. That is your choice.

There are many examples where regimes have rule over the people. Many regimes where the people live under government applied equality. North Korea, China, The Soviet Union. All the people are treated as equals. they are all hungry, they are all without good health care, they are all without the freedom to own property. And the list goes on. Want that? We can either dive right into a society like that by continuing the hope and change that we have witnessed so far or we can try to get back our freedoms that we have lost one freedom at a time.

At best we can either dive into bondage to the ruling powers that be, or we can fight to keep our constitution and the rights that it affords to us as individuals.

The ignorant haven't a clue to how much freedom we have already lost.

We desperately need a viable third party and vote in a President who is beholden to a political platform that is completely unlike the SOS malarkey we get every four years with the Dems and Repubs.

...Very well stated Slacker and Fisherman Bob. Are you aware that Jesse Ventura has recently announced that he would run next time if enough grassroots organizations got him on the ballots as a third choice ? He said he would be neither Republican nor Democrat.

Ta Live Well Die Well

The election isn't about which candidate has the best record of winning.. that is the peoples choice, at least for now. Both suck. But one wants total power over you, while the other wants eventual power over you. One is a wanna be dictator, the other is a progressive. It is not about how the lying media portrays them in order to discourage you into voting for who they support. This is about imposed equality, which is measured by world standards. This regime wants us to be equal with the working classes of China, North Korea, with Africa. They want us ALL TO OWN NOTHING. They want to own everything, including you. Every time equality is imposed the people s standard of living is downgraded, not upgraded. The poorest of the poor are the standard, not the rich. Those on top will get more, the rest will get less.

The issue is do you want what little freedom you have left under the constitution... the right to live free or the choice to live under the endless dictates of an regime that legislates your every move. The rights you have under YOUR constitution, or the erosion of all your rights one right at a time. We are seeing that happen every day under this regime.

It is the choice between the right to own your own home and pass it on to your children should you choose to do so, or for the government to own your home and give it to whomever they choose. The right to eat what you want to eat, or to be taxed for not eating what the regime says you should eat. The right to free speech or penalty of imprisonment for speaking out against injustice. The right to own transportation of your choice or being forced to purchase government approved transportation priced above what you can afford. The right to choose health care of your choice or being forced to wait to get treated at a government facility. (The VA is a good example of how that will work.... 2 to 5 months to get in for treatment if they decide they can afford it) Basically to get treated or to be refused treatment. ( The VA refuses many treatments. based on how much money it is allotted) The right to watch your big screen TV or to be priced out of being able to watch it. The right to have your smart phone or a government phone down the line with limited access. Think not? Wait and see. Your fuel consumption will be monitored, your home temperature will be monitored, your electricity and gas usage will be portioned, and on and on and on. Just like under any Socialist, or Marxist, or Communist regime. It is the right to keep the fruit of your labor, or to work for them so the ruling class can keep more. Work for your family, or work for the regime. That is your choice.

There are many examples where regimes have rule over the people. Many regimes where the people live under government applied equality. North Korea, China, The Soviet Union. All the people are treated as equals. they are all hungry, they are all without good health care, they are all without the freedom to own property. And the list goes on. Want that? We can either dive right into a society like that by continuing the hope and change that we have witnessed so far or we can try to get back our freedoms that we have lost one freedom at a time.

At best we can either dive into bondage to the ruling powers that be, or we can fight to keep our constitution and the rights that it affords to us as individuals.

The ignorant haven't a clue to how much freedom we have already lost.

Slackman I appreciate you greatly,,, Please don't stop trying to explain it, May help. Just be aware that if you get your shoes wet from peeing into the wind,,,, I won't be laughing.
Remember aim small,, miss small.

I guess I could have added this.

If you vote for a third party, your vote goes effectively to the tyrant in chief. He has already proven himself lawless in every respect putting himself above the Supreme Court, the congress, and our Constitution and the will of the people.

On the other hand, if he is defeated, you may have the opportunity to do what most of us are trying to do. That being to get the professional RINO's out of the Republican party which is filled to overflowing with hypocritical self serving bastards. And in the future we may have the chance to form a third party with more clout so that the entrenched will simply fade away.

But if this tyrant remains in office, you may not get to vote in another election... period.

It is far better to make every effort to oust a known scoundrel and tyrant before he does anymore damage as opposed to letting him continue his rampage of destruction. At the least that would insure another opportunity for you to vote for someone who you do approve in the future.

We the people are sick and tired of repubs that are so very liberal. and demoncrats who wish to rule over us. Remember? This Republic and its constitution belong to YOU, not those temporary hirelings. I find both parties to be putrid. I hope people understand that I don't have a horse in this race. I just want this Socialist tyrant gone before the remainder of my freedom is gone.

If he goes, then perhaps we will have a chance to elect a Ron Paul or someone else we prefer as opposed to just pissing away our vote and our freedom. Simple, huh?

Slacker,,,, The middle east is about to be completely destabilized,,, all the billions of dollars that we sending there will mean nothing.

When total warfare breaks out oil will soar to 500 dollars a barrel, gas will be at least 20 bucks a gallon, short term,,,,

Then food will become so scarce that world wide hunger will kill billions.

At that point all the greedy politicians will be running for cover.

I'm not even laughingly going to go on from here,,,,, But there will be so many free dictators running around by that time,,,, it will be run, cover, and die or .... fight.

I hope for the first time in my life,,, I'm wrong.

Here are two possibilities of how it may go down here in the land of the free:

this is a link:
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/links.htm

Check out these two essays:
"when the music stops" (what happens when EBT stops working - this is an analysis of how a defaulting govt would drive the cities into chaos)

"what I saw at the coup" (how left wing govt types could kick off a horror show - this is a fictional scenario)

Author was a navy seal and is a novelist. I found these essays very frightening. I was obvious that my own combat experience is very dated and that things can and probably will go wrong in ways I hadn't even considered.

Talbot

I had heard a prophesy in 1972 that told about the realestate crash. It said that after that there would be a few "good" years and then another that would collapse the economy. Pretty much everything from 72 on has fallen into place so far. (In his last prophesy he spoke of fires and rioting in all the cities of the world. )

Then 7 years ago the Lord spoke to me as I was lying on the bed watching TV, and said that my time was short. Again he repeated that to me. Then he said "And you are going the wrong direction". So I changed directions. Then later on He said that He was going to bring down America and the financial systems of this world. He then brought Isa 24:1 to my attention along with this

(CEV) (12:18) .. (The dragon stood on the beach beside the sea.) I looked and saw a beast coming up from the sea. This one had ten horns and seven heads, and a crown was on each of its ten horns. On each of its heads were names that were an insult to God.

What's the Devil doing standing on the beach watching the Beast rise from the populations of this world? He isn't watching. He is directing the assembling of his corporate body. He is working on overturning all the governments of this world and causing complete devastation. Then I have the feeling that someone will appear who has the solutions to every problem, and the world will love him. At least that is what I believe is going to happen. But that just my view of the situation.

We know that this beast is comprised of all peoples of the world. I looked around and here are all the nations of the world in turmoil. And I saw clearly the escalating spiritual warfare reflected through the deeds of men.

Recently I heard that there were two things coming to America. Hunger and Bloodshed. So in that order... the bringing down of America, world wide financial collapse, hunger and bloodshed ... I would have to say that you are hearing the same things, Glen. Vamp and a few others seem to be hearing what we hear. Not very comforting.

I hear a lot of things. Those without spiritual insight may believe the voices that we hear are all in our heads. Well, yeah, they are. Never heard a thing from a burning bush though. At least not since I quit slow burning some of those imported weeds back in the 70's. >(Slow bloomer)

But when the voices tell you things that happen years, months, weeks, or days before they actually happen... you begin to listen closely to what those voices are telling you.

I said it before... My prediction is:

Obama will lose by a landslide, but Romney will win by a margin:

1) Repubs have Romney whether they like him or not... They know that NOT voting would kill their chance to be rid of Obama.. So, They WILL come out in force, and vote for Romney.

2) Democrats: realize that Obama is not a rationale choice anymore. However, They have no other candidates (Not even Ron Paul). They will be so discouraged, that at least 40-50 % will simply concede and refuse to vote, rather than endure another 4 years of a leader whom they have too many doubts about. That will even the voters playing field.

Thus, with 50 % of the dems not voting, all of the repubs voting, Obama will lose by a landslide, and Romney will win by a margin

reading the book of Revelations, is kind of like watching fox news every night.
you know that what you're seeing is happening all around you, but to continue to stare at it will drive you round the bend.

remember, Christians
if this is the end, like sometimes it feels, or if you believe that The Lord has given you insight;

rejoice therefore.
what could be better?

Here are two possibilities of how it may go down here in the land of the free:

this is a link:
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/links.htm

Check out these two essays:
"when the music stops" (what happens when EBT stops working - this is an analysis of how a defaulting govt would drive the cities into chaos)

"what I saw at the coup" (how left wing govt types could kick off a horror show - this is a fictional scenario)

Author was a navy seal and is a novelist. I found these essays very frightening. I was obvious that my own combat experience is very dated and that things can and probably will go wrong in ways I hadn't even considered.

Talbot

Pretty unthinkable, eh Talbot,,,, Sad but they miss the point on a few major points.
The biggest one will be the scramble for control of US "WMD". This will cause immediate interference from Russia or China. Remember a Russian troop has no sworn oath to protect the constitution and would not be killing fellow Americans.

Now we have reached a new level of what can go wrong.

Slacker,,,, The middle east is about to be completely destabilized,,, all the billions of dollars that we sending there will mean nothing.

When total warfare breaks out oil will soar to 500 dollars a barrel, gas will be at least 20 bucks a gallon, short term,,,,

Then food will become so scarce that world wide hunger will kill billions.

At that point all the greedy politicians will be running for cover.

I'm not even laughingly going to go on from here,,,,, But there will be so many free dictators running around by that time,,,, it will be run, cover, and die or .... fight.

I hope for the first time in my life,,, I'm wrong.

I may just have to go out and purchase that Comfy chair recliner I promised myself... Then, a shot gun. Then, while the world goes crazy and millions die, I'll just relax with my shot gun and a latte, say my prayers every day and wait.

Slacker,,,, The middle east is about to be completely destabilized,,, all the billions of dollars that we sending there will mean nothing.

When total warfare breaks out oil will soar to 500 dollars a barrel, gas will be at least 20 bucks a gallon, short term,,,,

Then food will become so scarce that world wide hunger will kill billions.

At that point all the greedy politicians will be running for cover.

I'm not even laughingly going to go on from here,,,,, But there will be so many free dictators running around by that time,,,, it will be run, cover, and die or .... fight.

I hope for the first time in my life,,, I'm wrong.

I may just have to go out and purchase that Comfy chair recliner I promised myself... Then, a shot gun. Then, while the world goes crazy and millions die, I'll just relax with my shot gun and a latte, say my prayers every day and wait.

Of course, I'll need my pipe...Gotta have My pipe ... and I;ll stick up on tobacco, chocolate, and some whiskey...