General Music Chat

Well... I was in a bind for this Thursday Night's show. (The contest)...Found out the venue has no PA...It was ON me (Hee Hee) gulp!

So I had a small budget and obtained:

- A 1600W 16 channel board with Multi Digital Effects /FX capability, (Behringer Europower PMP4000)
- Two Behringer 800W (ea) Passive speakers (Used), Cables (snake comes later)

and my rectum feels strange...

It should.



I swear that I do NOT work for Bose, ok?


But for about $200 more you could get an L1 on eBay that does ALL of that, sets up entirely in 10 minutes, fits in the passenger seat of your car, and SOUNDS BETTER for an acoustic gig. Do you use more than 4 channels for an acoustic gig? If so, patch in a mixer.

If you play venues large enough have a PA system, you can use it as a stage monitor and control the mix sent to the main board (should you think that is necessary)

Well... I was in a bind for this Thursday Night's show. (The contest)...Found out the venue has no PA...It was ON me (Hee Hee) gulp!

So I had a small budget and obtained:

- A 1600W 16 channel board with Multi Digital Effects /FX capability, (Behringer Europower PMP4000)
- Two Behringer 800W (ea) Passive speakers (Used), Cables (snake comes later)

and my rectum feels strange...

It should.



I swear that I do NOT work for Bose, ok?


But for about $200 more you could get an L1 on eBay that does ALL of that, sets up entirely in 10 minutes, fits in the passenger seat of your car, and SOUNDS BETTER for an acoustic gig. Do you use more than 4 channels for an acoustic gig? If so, patch in a mixer.

If you play venues large enough have a PA system, you can use it as a stage monitor and control the mix sent to the main board (should you think that is necessary)

I'm quite sure your are correct... The thing about Info like this, is that it never shows up during that window of time, where the need for said system arises, and the actual moment of purchase ...

Dog,

I have two Mackie boards and two Behringer boards used for recording. The Mackie boards cost 3 X what I paid for the Behringers. In my opinion, as someone who has been doing repair work since I was 8 years old (In my uncles shop) I think that the Behringer gear is as well made as much of the higher dollar gear. I also have several Behring power ampsr, Peavey power amps, LJB Lansing, Crown power amps and a Yamaha amp.

My Behringer mixing boards have very good low noise FX built in, the Mackies do not. Just another bonus. The Behringers are every bit as quiet as the high dollar Mackies.

Some of the power amps are a bit heavier duty but the Behringer amps are also well constructed. Personally, I don't feel you made a bad choice at all.

Thanks Slacker, I think s I did okay... The equipment will be used for the contest show twice a year , plus any acoustic sets I endeavor to engage. At the conetst, People drag in all kinds of equipment. But I want to at least provide the basic PA for them...


I have another question. I got two mics /w cables which I will use for acoustic and vocals (SM57, 58 respectively)/. No probs hooking thos up. Then, I have a wireless Mini Pro, which I intend to use for MC stuff and announcements... The Transmitter connects with a 1/4 instrument cable. Where On my Board should O plug that in, (with respect to a dedicated speaker) Whats the plug I should look for?

Thanks

Ch 1 Mic in- SM58- Vocal
Ch 2 Mic in- SM57- instrument
Ch 3 Line in - Cordless mic receiver - MC vocal

See, even a cave man can do it

Ch 1 Mic in- SM58- Vocal
Ch 2 Mic in- SM57- instrument
Ch 3 Line in - Cordless mic receiver - MC vocal

See, even a cave man can do it

Just for clarification

Channel 1 : Vocal Mic (using that standard Live Wire Cable)
Channel 2 : Inst Mic, (Using that standard Live Wire Cable
Channel 3 : Mini-Pro (Using a Guitar cable i.e the quarter inch)... But... That jack ...is that called a "line input? It sits right below the Mic Cable socket

Ch 1 Mic in- SM58- Vocal
Ch 2 Mic in- SM57- instrument
Ch 3 Line in - Cordless mic receiver - MC vocal

See, even a cave man can do it

Just for clarification

Channel 1 : Vocal Mic (using that standard Live Wire Cable)
Channel 2 : Inst Mic, (Using that standard Live Wire Cable
Channel 3 : Mini-Pro (Using a Guitar cable i.e the quarter inch)... But... That jack ...is that called a "line input? It sits right below the Mic Cable socket

Channel 3 Yes 1/4 line input=high inpedence=unbalanced and more likely to pick up outside radio interference. XLR at mixer end=balanced more resistent to outside RF.

Each channel should have an insert (not to be confused with mic line in)that is for inserting outboard compression and effects into that particular channel.

But for about $200 more you could get an L1 on eBay that does ALL of that, sets up entirely in 10 minutes, fits in the passenger seat of your car, and SOUNDS BETTER for an acoustic gig. Do you use more than 4 channels for an acoustic gig? If so, patch in a mixer.

If you play venues large enough have a PA system, you can use it as a stage monitor and control the mix sent to the main board (should you think that is necessary)

Those L1's do work great for acoustic, not sure about rock acts, though. There was a band setting up with one at a restaurant I was at on Saturday, but we had to leave, couldn't wait around another 1/2 hour for them to start, I was curious how it would sound with what looked like an unmic-ed drum set, 2 guitars and bass. They had it set up near the back with the drummer, so obviously it was being used as stage monitor as well as main output.

But for about $200 more you could get an L1 on eBay that does ALL of that, sets up entirely in 10 minutes, fits in the passenger seat of your car, and SOUNDS BETTER for an acoustic gig. Do you use more than 4 channels for an acoustic gig? If so, patch in a mixer.

If you play venues large enough have a PA system, you can use it as a stage monitor and control the mix sent to the main board (should you think that is necessary)

Those L1's do work great for acoustic, not sure about rock acts, though. There was a band setting up with one at a restaurant I was at on Saturday, but we had to leave, couldn't wait around another 1/2 hour for them to start, I was curious how it would sound with what looked like an unmic-ed drum set, 2 guitars and bass. They had it set up near the back with the drummer, so obviously it was being used as stage monitor as well as main output.

They work fine for small club and I STRESS SMALL VENUE! 100 people MAX. but better for the under 70 size venue. They have a wide field of throw and with them you really don't need monitors. If you have ever seen those speakers I can only say IMO "they sound about like they look" not very impressive! Only for very SMALL venue.

Ch 1 Mic in- SM58- Vocal
Ch 2 Mic in- SM57- instrument
Ch 3 Line in - Cordless mic receiver - MC vocal

See, even a cave man can do it

Just for clarification

Channel 1 : Vocal Mic (using that standard Live Wire Cable)
Channel 2 : Inst Mic, (Using that standard Live Wire Cable
Channel 3 : Mini-Pro (Using a Guitar cable i.e the quarter inch)... But... That jack ...is that called a "line input? It sits right below the Mic Cable socket

Exactly. The output of your cordless mic receiver is a line level 600 ohm signal much like the output of a CD player. It is a hotter signal than a guitar or dynamic mic and is matched to the "line input" on your board. Test it at home so you can adjust a rough mix without time constraints. Once you know how everything works, setup on gig night will be easy breezy.

Ch 1 Mic in- SM58- Vocal
Ch 2 Mic in- SM57- instrument
Ch 3 Line in - Cordless mic receiver - MC vocal

See, even a cave man can do it

Just for clarification

Channel 1 : Vocal Mic (using that standard Live Wire Cable)
Channel 2 : Inst Mic, (Using that standard Live Wire Cable
Channel 3 : Mini-Pro (Using a Guitar cable i.e the quarter inch)... But... That jack ...is that called a "line input? It sits right below the Mic Cable socket

Exactly. The output of your cordless mic receiver is a line level 600 ohm signal much like the output of a CD player. It is a hotter signal than a guitar or dynamic mic and is matched to the "line input" on your board. Test it at home so you can adjust a rough mix without time constraints. Once you know how everything works, setup on gig night will be easy breezy.

WIll Do, Thanks!

(Jeff , what s the XLR and where the heck is that on my board??

XLR is that big 3-pin connection, like on the back of microphones.

The line-in would be regular 1/4" phone plugs (like your guitar cord)

XLR is that big 3-pin connection, like on the back of microphones.

The line-in would be regular 1/4" phone plugs (like your guitar cord)

I think he's messin with us Mike!

XLR is that big 3-pin connection, like on the back of microphones.

The line-in would be regular 1/4" phone plugs (like your guitar cord)

Thanks Mike! I am learning!

All you guys are Cool!

XLR is that big 3-pin connection, like on the back of microphones.

The line-in would be regular 1/4" phone plugs (like your guitar cord)

I think he's messin with us Mike!

Not Messin with ya.. I REALLY AM T H A T STUPID LOL!