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That's probably what they said after
attacking the embassy.
attacking the embassy.
It's a good day to die
jimmydanger wrote:One little thing Bob - these were just regular folks, not al qaeda. They reacted badly to a video that mocked their religion. Hopefully those responsible for Steven's death will be found and held to account.
It all comes down to freedom and responsibility. Pastor Jones has the freedom to burn Qurans and make and post inflammatory videos. YouTube has the freedom to post the video. The Muslim protesters have the freedom to protest the video. But with freedom comes responsibility; just because you CAN do something does not neceessarily mean you SHOULD do something.
the above statement indicates that murder is a freedom.
that the act of being free can also be an act of war.
that art and murder are equivalent.
this is to say it is our fault,
our freedom caused the ambassadors death.
we can be free but we should not act free because freedom is offensive.
if this is true. below is isustrated the highest form of art.
and I wish to paint this all over Arabia and Persia.
let there be ART!
JCP61 wrote:jimmydanger wrote:One little thing Bob - these were just regular folks, not al qaeda. They reacted badly to a video that mocked their religion. Hopefully those responsible for Steven's death will be found and held to account.
It all comes down to freedom and responsibility. Pastor Jones has the freedom to burn Qurans and make and post inflammatory videos. YouTube has the freedom to post the video. The Muslim protesters have the freedom to protest the video. But with freedom comes responsibility; just because you CAN do something does not neceessarily mean you SHOULD do something.
the above statement indicates that murder is a freedom.
that the act of being free can also be an act of war.
that art and murder are equivalent.
this is to say it is our fault,
our freedom caused the ambassadors death.
we can be free but we should not act free because freedom is offensive.
if this is true. below is isustrated the highest form of art.
and I wish to paint this all over Arabia and Persia.
let there be ART!
We'll name it New TEXAS Yee Haw! NUKE UM ALL AND LET ALLAH SORT EM OUT. Then the illegal aliens can go over there and work while we TAKE THERE OIL
Improvise Adapt and Overcome
I.A.O. Baby!
I.A.O. Baby!
J-HALEY wrote:JCP61 wrote:jimmydanger wrote:One little thing Bob - these were just regular folks, not al qaeda. They reacted badly to a video that mocked their religion. Hopefully those responsible for Steven's death will be found and held to account.
It all comes down to freedom and responsibility. Pastor Jones has the freedom to burn Qurans and make and post inflammatory videos. YouTube has the freedom to post the video. The Muslim protesters have the freedom to protest the video. But with freedom comes responsibility; just because you CAN do something does not neceessarily mean you SHOULD do something.
the above statement indicates that murder is a freedom.
that the act of being free can also be an act of war.
that art and murder are equivalent.
this is to say it is our fault,
our freedom caused the ambassadors death.
we can be free but we should not act free because freedom is offensive.
if this is true. below is isustrated the highest form of art.
and I wish to paint this all over Arabia and Persia.
let there be ART!
We'll name it New TEXAS Yee Haw! NUKE UM ALL AND LET ALLAH SOT EM OUT. Then the illegal aliens can go over there and work while we TAKE THERE OIL
Jeff!
your an artist!
I'm not a proponent of nuclear war, I think
we should line up in lines of 10, then use 1
50 caliber bullet to blow thru the line of 10.
Then we wouldn't have to cleanup the mess,
and then send all the illegals over there and
put them to work.
Phukk a bunch of muslims, towelheaded
motherphukkers, call it racist, but were at war
with the muslims and have been for years,
why don't we fight to win? Because of all these
pussies polishing desk chairs with there ass, if
the shoe fits. Were sending them to our colleges,
while our own kids have to go indebt for the
rest of there lives just to pay to get a 4 year degree,
much less 2 of them.
In my book your either for the USA or against it,
and the muslims are against us!!!!!
When a muslim tries to buy something from me say a
$2.00 item I always price them at a hundred dollars,
I call that double oriental pricing, I don't need there
phukkin money, and wouldn't buy 100 dollar bills from
them if they were selling them for 20 dollars.
we should line up in lines of 10, then use 1
50 caliber bullet to blow thru the line of 10.
Then we wouldn't have to cleanup the mess,
and then send all the illegals over there and
put them to work.
Phukk a bunch of muslims, towelheaded
motherphukkers, call it racist, but were at war
with the muslims and have been for years,
why don't we fight to win? Because of all these
pussies polishing desk chairs with there ass, if
the shoe fits. Were sending them to our colleges,
while our own kids have to go indebt for the
rest of there lives just to pay to get a 4 year degree,
much less 2 of them.
In my book your either for the USA or against it,
and the muslims are against us!!!!!
When a muslim tries to buy something from me say a
$2.00 item I always price them at a hundred dollars,
I call that double oriental pricing, I don't need there
phukkin money, and wouldn't buy 100 dollar bills from
them if they were selling them for 20 dollars.
It's a good day to die
nuclear weapons are lest costly in lives and treasure.
for us as well as them
you burn their eyes and skin off,
and the enemy will give up thoughts of war.
they will turn to thoughts of building TV's and bicycles as a way to occupy their time
ask the Japanese, they will tell you what the fat man did for them.
total cost of war...2,620,000 to 3,120,000 Japanese, time =approximately 6 to 10 years.
total dead in atomic attack.....300,000 time = .05 seconds not counting a shave and a shower afterwards.
4 years of hand to hand
or 1/2 a second to push a launch button.
so tell me who really loves war?
for us as well as them
you burn their eyes and skin off,
and the enemy will give up thoughts of war.
they will turn to thoughts of building TV's and bicycles as a way to occupy their time
ask the Japanese, they will tell you what the fat man did for them.
total cost of war...2,620,000 to 3,120,000 Japanese, time =approximately 6 to 10 years.
total dead in atomic attack.....300,000 time = .05 seconds not counting a shave and a shower afterwards.
4 years of hand to hand
or 1/2 a second to push a launch button.
so tell me who really loves war?
very few understand the import of this photo,
pictured with a paid employee of the US goverment is the Japanese God
A God, by the way who up till that moment was so sacred that almost no citizen had ever heard his voice much less seen his face, the thought of standing in the same room with him was beyond comprehension.
notice the God is shorter by at least 8 inches.
pictured with a paid employee of the US goverment is the Japanese God
A God, by the way who up till that moment was so sacred that almost no citizen had ever heard his voice much less seen his face, the thought of standing in the same room with him was beyond comprehension.
notice the God is shorter by at least 8 inches.
JCP61 wrote:very few understand the import of this photo,
pictured with a paid employee of the US goverment is the Japanese God
A God, by the way who up till that moment was so sacred that almost no citizen had ever heard his voice much less seen his face, the thought of standing in the same room with him was beyond comprehension.
notice the God is shorter by at least 8 inches.
By 8 inches? Are we sure that's not an optical illusion from the way MacArthur's pants damn near climb up to his nipples LOL! When He said "I shall return" I think he left to go look for some pants ...haha! He was a great General.. with really big pants... Me thinks he was trying to impress upon the Japanese emporer that he carried a Fat Man on him... LOL! (That aint Mac Arthur, now...is it ...
PaperDog wrote:JCP61 wrote:very few understand the import of this photo,
pictured with a paid employee of the US goverment is the Japanese God
A God, by the way who up till that moment was so sacred that almost no citizen had ever heard his voice much less seen his face, the thought of standing in the same room with him was beyond comprehension.
notice the God is shorter by at least 8 inches.
(That aint Mac Arthur, now...is it ...
well it ain't Antwon of flatbush!
...Chaeya ... I do remember that story and others. Imagine what is not reported. Thank You
Lynard...I read your Post and it made me think so I sat down and wrote a short list for you to peruse...
Chess....I like this game, many do.
Hospitals...
Algebra....
Geometry....
Astronomy...
Trigonometry....
Calligraphy and many types/forms of design...
Herbal Medicines...
Music....
Medical Sciences...
Painting...
Mechanics....
Physics....
Chemistry...
Bookmaking/binding...
Zoology....
Camera Obscura....
Paper making....
Geography...
Philosophy...
Irrigation Techniques...
Libraries...
Educational Institutions...
TRhe Quran...
And here are some that seem possibly directly related to the NWO ?
The Banking System...
Polo...
Political Science...
Commerce...
And my personal favorite...
The Theory of Relativity
You ask how long has this been going on ? Well I would say pretty much from the beginning would you not ? Patel is a common name much like Smith in Pakistan, India, and other such countries.
Oh and did I mention Underground Wells ?
Lynard ...I say this in friendship and with no animosity...I feel that you should react as you do, get angry and vent and then look back upon what you state perhaps in a day or two, read it all and think upon it ... doing the same with other's Posts on the same subject and then see how you feel and if it be the same then by all means leave it but if you have thought something slightly defferent then by all means say so.
It is not a question of really being forced to propose the extinction of an entire race is it ? Think of the Mothers, children and families and how WE ARE ALL RELATED. Can you consider that the government accounts could be "doctored" so as to manipulate people like you into sayting some things, doing some things and also more importantly not doing some things ?
Where ever I have been I have always found that I could sit down and share a fire, a table, a drink, a meal or such with anyone from any country and afterwards come away having truly learned something more about myself, them and the world. It is not difficult really ... most religions encourage it and yet very few actually put it into practice.
Your perspective is always welcomed by myself at least anytime and anywhere as it invokes thought even if not agreement.
Ta Live Well Die Well
Lynard...I read your Post and it made me think so I sat down and wrote a short list for you to peruse...
Chess....I like this game, many do.
Hospitals...
Algebra....
Geometry....
Astronomy...
Trigonometry....
Calligraphy and many types/forms of design...
Herbal Medicines...
Music....
Medical Sciences...
Painting...
Mechanics....
Physics....
Chemistry...
Bookmaking/binding...
Zoology....
Camera Obscura....
Paper making....
Geography...
Philosophy...
Irrigation Techniques...
Libraries...
Educational Institutions...
TRhe Quran...
And here are some that seem possibly directly related to the NWO ?
The Banking System...
Polo...
Political Science...
Commerce...
And my personal favorite...
The Theory of Relativity
You ask how long has this been going on ? Well I would say pretty much from the beginning would you not ? Patel is a common name much like Smith in Pakistan, India, and other such countries.
Oh and did I mention Underground Wells ?
Lynard ...I say this in friendship and with no animosity...I feel that you should react as you do, get angry and vent and then look back upon what you state perhaps in a day or two, read it all and think upon it ... doing the same with other's Posts on the same subject and then see how you feel and if it be the same then by all means leave it but if you have thought something slightly defferent then by all means say so.
It is not a question of really being forced to propose the extinction of an entire race is it ? Think of the Mothers, children and families and how WE ARE ALL RELATED. Can you consider that the government accounts could be "doctored" so as to manipulate people like you into sayting some things, doing some things and also more importantly not doing some things ?
Where ever I have been I have always found that I could sit down and share a fire, a table, a drink, a meal or such with anyone from any country and afterwards come away having truly learned something more about myself, them and the world. It is not difficult really ... most religions encourage it and yet very few actually put it into practice.
Your perspective is always welcomed by myself at least anytime and anywhere as it invokes thought even if not agreement.
Ta Live Well Die Well
Religion and banking info from Wikipedia
Islam
In Islam it is strictly prohibited to take interest; the Quran strictly prohibits lending money on Interest. "O you who have believed, do not consume usury, doubled and multiplied, but fear Allah that you may be successful" (3:130) "and Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden interest" (2:275).
Riba (usury)) is forbidden in Islamic economic jurisprudence fiqh. Islamic jurists discuss two types of riba: an increase in capital with no services provided, which the Qur'an prohibits—and commodity exchanges in unequal quantities, which the Sunnah prohibits.
Judaism
The Torah and later sections of the Hebrew Bible criticize interest-taking, but interpretations of the Biblical prohibition vary. One common understanding is that Jews are forbidden to charge interest upon loans made to other Jews, but obliged to charge interest on transactions with non-Jews, or Gentiles. However, the Hebrew Bible itself gives numerous examples where this provision was evaded.
Deuteronomy 23:19 Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother: interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of any thing that is lent upon interest. Deuteronomy 23:20 Unto a foreigner thou mayest lend upon interest; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon interest; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou puttest thy hand unto, in the land whither thou goest in to possess it.[151]
Christ drives the Usurers out of the Temple, a woodcut by Lucas Cranach the Elder in Passionary of Christ and Antichrist.[152]
Israelites were forbidden to charge interest on loans made to other Israelites, but allowed to charge interest on transactions with non-Israelites, as the latter were often amongst the Israelites for the purpose of business anyway, but in general, it was seen as advantageous to avoid debt at all, to avoid being bound to someone else. Debt was to be avoided and not used to finance consumption, but only when in need. However, laws against usury were among many the prophets condemn the people for breaking.[153]
Christianity
Originally, the charging of interest known as usury was banned by Christian churches meaning the charging of interest at any rate was banned. This included charging a fee for the use of money, such as at a bureau de change. However over time the charging of interest became acceptable, the term came to be used for interest above the rate allowed by law.
Medieval Europe
Banking, in the modern sense of the word, is traceable to medieval and early Renaissance Italy, to rich cities in the north such as Florence, Venice, and Genoa.
The original banks were "merchant banks" that Italian grain merchants first invented in the Middle Ages. As Lombardy merchants and bankers grew in stature based on the strength of the Lombard plains cereal crops, many displaced Jews fleeing Spanish persecution were attracted to the trade. They brought with them ancient practices from the Middle and Far East silk routes. Originally intended to finance long trading journeys, they applied these methods to finance grain production and trading.
Jews could not hold land in Italy, so they entered the great trading piazzas and halls of Lombardy, alongside local traders, and set up their benches to trade in crops. They had one great advantage over the locals. Christians were strictly forbidden the sin of usury, defined as lending at interest (Islam makes similar condemnations of usury). The Jewish newcomers, on the other hand, could lend to farmers against crops in the field, a high-risk loan at what would have been considered usurious rates by the Church; but the Jews were not subject to the Church's dictates.[citation needed] In this way they could secure the grain-sale rights against the eventual harvest. They then began to advance payment against the future delivery of grain shipped to distant ports. In both cases they made their profit from the present discount against the future price. This two-handed trade was time-consuming and soon there arose a class of merchants who were trading grain debt instead of grain.
The Jewish trader performed both financing (credit) and underwriting (insurance) functions. Financing took the form of a crop loan at the beginning of the growing season, which allowed a farmer to develop and manufacture (through seeding, growing, weeding, and harvesting) his annual crop. Underwriting in the form of a crop, or commodity, insurance guaranteed the delivery of the crop to its buyer, typically a merchant wholesaler. In addition, traders performed the merchant function by making arrangements to supply the buyer of the crop through alternative sources—grain stores or alternate markets, for instance—in the event of crop failure. He could also keep the farmer (or other commodity producer) in business during a drought or other crop failure, through the issuance of a crop (or commodity) insurance against the hazard of failure of his crop.
Merchant banking progressed from financing trade on one's own behalf to settling trades for others and then to holding deposits for settlement of "billette" or notes written by the people who were still brokering the actual grain. And so the merchant's "benches" (bank is derived from the Italian for bench, banca, as in a counter) in the great grain markets became centers for holding money against a bill (billette, a note, a letter of formal exchange, later a bill of exchange and later still a cheque).
These deposited funds were intended to be held for the settlement of grain trades, but often were used for the bench's own trades in the meantime. The term bankrupt is a corruption of the Italian banca rotta, or broken bench, which is what happened when someone lost his traders' deposits. Being "broke" has the same connotation.
Court Jews were Jewish bankers or businessmen who lent money and handled the finances of some of the Christian European noble houses, primarily in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.[176] Court Jews were precursors to the modern financier or Secretary of the Treasury.[176] Their jobs included raising revenues by tax farming, negotiating loans, master of the mint, creating new sources for revenue, negotiating loans, float ing debentures, devising new taxes. and supplying the military.[176][177] In addition, the Court Jew acted as personal bankers for nobility: he raised money to cover the noble's personal diplomacy and his extravagances.[177]
Court Jews were skilled administrators and businessmen who received privileges in return for their services. They were most commonly found in Germany, Holland, and Austria, but also in Denmark, England, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Lithuania, Portugal, and Spain.[178][179] According to Dimont, virtually every duchy, principality, and palatinate in the Holy Roman Empire had a Court Jew.[176]
Islam
In Islam it is strictly prohibited to take interest; the Quran strictly prohibits lending money on Interest. "O you who have believed, do not consume usury, doubled and multiplied, but fear Allah that you may be successful" (3:130) "and Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden interest" (2:275).
Riba (usury)) is forbidden in Islamic economic jurisprudence fiqh. Islamic jurists discuss two types of riba: an increase in capital with no services provided, which the Qur'an prohibits—and commodity exchanges in unequal quantities, which the Sunnah prohibits.
Judaism
The Torah and later sections of the Hebrew Bible criticize interest-taking, but interpretations of the Biblical prohibition vary. One common understanding is that Jews are forbidden to charge interest upon loans made to other Jews, but obliged to charge interest on transactions with non-Jews, or Gentiles. However, the Hebrew Bible itself gives numerous examples where this provision was evaded.
Deuteronomy 23:19 Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother: interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of any thing that is lent upon interest. Deuteronomy 23:20 Unto a foreigner thou mayest lend upon interest; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon interest; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou puttest thy hand unto, in the land whither thou goest in to possess it.[151]
Christ drives the Usurers out of the Temple, a woodcut by Lucas Cranach the Elder in Passionary of Christ and Antichrist.[152]
Israelites were forbidden to charge interest on loans made to other Israelites, but allowed to charge interest on transactions with non-Israelites, as the latter were often amongst the Israelites for the purpose of business anyway, but in general, it was seen as advantageous to avoid debt at all, to avoid being bound to someone else. Debt was to be avoided and not used to finance consumption, but only when in need. However, laws against usury were among many the prophets condemn the people for breaking.[153]
Christianity
Originally, the charging of interest known as usury was banned by Christian churches meaning the charging of interest at any rate was banned. This included charging a fee for the use of money, such as at a bureau de change. However over time the charging of interest became acceptable, the term came to be used for interest above the rate allowed by law.
Medieval Europe
Banking, in the modern sense of the word, is traceable to medieval and early Renaissance Italy, to rich cities in the north such as Florence, Venice, and Genoa.
The original banks were "merchant banks" that Italian grain merchants first invented in the Middle Ages. As Lombardy merchants and bankers grew in stature based on the strength of the Lombard plains cereal crops, many displaced Jews fleeing Spanish persecution were attracted to the trade. They brought with them ancient practices from the Middle and Far East silk routes. Originally intended to finance long trading journeys, they applied these methods to finance grain production and trading.
Jews could not hold land in Italy, so they entered the great trading piazzas and halls of Lombardy, alongside local traders, and set up their benches to trade in crops. They had one great advantage over the locals. Christians were strictly forbidden the sin of usury, defined as lending at interest (Islam makes similar condemnations of usury). The Jewish newcomers, on the other hand, could lend to farmers against crops in the field, a high-risk loan at what would have been considered usurious rates by the Church; but the Jews were not subject to the Church's dictates.[citation needed] In this way they could secure the grain-sale rights against the eventual harvest. They then began to advance payment against the future delivery of grain shipped to distant ports. In both cases they made their profit from the present discount against the future price. This two-handed trade was time-consuming and soon there arose a class of merchants who were trading grain debt instead of grain.
The Jewish trader performed both financing (credit) and underwriting (insurance) functions. Financing took the form of a crop loan at the beginning of the growing season, which allowed a farmer to develop and manufacture (through seeding, growing, weeding, and harvesting) his annual crop. Underwriting in the form of a crop, or commodity, insurance guaranteed the delivery of the crop to its buyer, typically a merchant wholesaler. In addition, traders performed the merchant function by making arrangements to supply the buyer of the crop through alternative sources—grain stores or alternate markets, for instance—in the event of crop failure. He could also keep the farmer (or other commodity producer) in business during a drought or other crop failure, through the issuance of a crop (or commodity) insurance against the hazard of failure of his crop.
Merchant banking progressed from financing trade on one's own behalf to settling trades for others and then to holding deposits for settlement of "billette" or notes written by the people who were still brokering the actual grain. And so the merchant's "benches" (bank is derived from the Italian for bench, banca, as in a counter) in the great grain markets became centers for holding money against a bill (billette, a note, a letter of formal exchange, later a bill of exchange and later still a cheque).
These deposited funds were intended to be held for the settlement of grain trades, but often were used for the bench's own trades in the meantime. The term bankrupt is a corruption of the Italian banca rotta, or broken bench, which is what happened when someone lost his traders' deposits. Being "broke" has the same connotation.
Court Jews were Jewish bankers or businessmen who lent money and handled the finances of some of the Christian European noble houses, primarily in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.[176] Court Jews were precursors to the modern financier or Secretary of the Treasury.[176] Their jobs included raising revenues by tax farming, negotiating loans, master of the mint, creating new sources for revenue, negotiating loans, float ing debentures, devising new taxes. and supplying the military.[176][177] In addition, the Court Jew acted as personal bankers for nobility: he raised money to cover the noble's personal diplomacy and his extravagances.[177]
Court Jews were skilled administrators and businessmen who received privileges in return for their services. They were most commonly found in Germany, Holland, and Austria, but also in Denmark, England, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Lithuania, Portugal, and Spain.[178][179] According to Dimont, virtually every duchy, principality, and palatinate in the Holy Roman Empire had a Court Jew.[176]
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