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Official diagnosis for my 3 year old - Autism spectrum.
"High Functioning"

A suggested genetic test in the near future.

Official diagnosis for my 3 year old - Autism spectrum.
"High Functioning"

A suggested genetic test in the near future.

In a nutshell, the worst possible case is simply a social ineptness of "notable lack of Empathy or inability to register others feelings..." Maybe he'll be a klutz...though one day he might learn to laugh about it. They can be deceived by a poker face, or not... That's just it.. It makes no difference.

This is not to say they don't know right from wrong, or cant maintain moral integrity...but you should not feel put out if he suddenly were to drop your conversation with him like a bad habit and leave the room, for no apparent cause. He simply wont register the grace in protocol like the rest of us might. Still, Hell be fine... Most likely will be bright and cognitive...

I know, cause I worked with one who was a programmer. . He, did try his best to be polite and cordial (and they can be) and even went out of his way to show an appreciation for the Christmas gift I gave him one year. But he most likely had to be taught how to do that. Good natured , but not talkative.

So Zip, Its Not the end of the world, and his love for you will manifest in different forms...Just recognize them and run with it...

There is a lot of support out there which you will no doubt unravel as time goes by. Hang in there and give him all the love you can...

Hey Gt,
My greatest sympathy goes out to you. As some here might recall, my daughter (now 9yo) is severely autistic. Life has been a roller-coaster to say the least.

You should contact the easter seals, they offer in-home therapies, and even free bi-yearly appointments with a neurologist (most offices) who donates his/her time to them.

If you have any questions about the red-tape and legal aspects, I have a wealth of info. I don't know too much about the higher functioning ASD and Aspergers, as my experiences all revolve around low functioning.

Fisherman bob is also a great resource.

There are some "glass half full" points of view with ASD, it's not all doom and gloom- for instance my daughter is extremely affectionate, and usually the most well-behaved kid in public places. She lives by routine and schedules, so it's never a problem with bedtime, getting ready for school, etc..

Don't focus too much on the genetic testing, it's all academic for the most part- they will just be looking for any genetic abnormalities such as Fragile-X, but in the end, there's no real genetic 'test' to tell them anything about ASD itself.

**disclaimer
The next part is extremely controversial-

"They" will feed you so much bullshit that your eyes will turn brown and you will feel like you need a tidy-wipe for your ears. Don't buy into it. They will say it has nothing to do with vaccinations or any other environmental factors. They will say it's genetic and blame the mother's genes. They will act like they know all the answers to questions that raise serious concerns, and they will claim nobody knows the answers to questions that damn certain industries and organizations.

The truth is out there- I've spent much of 9 years reading and investigating every possible resource in an effort to find the truth and answers to my most pressing questions. The answers I've found aren't pretty, and starkly contradict everything the doctors and government agencies will tell you.

I will just leave it at this:
If they did admit the truth, the lawsuits would bankrupt the government and several private industries. Sadly, the elephant in the room that nobody even talks about in an official capacity is that ASD diagnoses continue to skyrocket, and social security disability, or in this case SSI, will be bankrupt very soon because it was never built to handle 1 in 9 kids being ASD (and that number gets worse every year), and a majority of them will be on it for life and never able to take care of themselves.

It pains me even to discuss this, my anger wells up every time.

Feel free to pick my brain at your leisure.

In times gone by we might have just said "he's different". Now there's an acronym and corresponding drug for everything. Anxious at work? You need Prozac. Learn differently in school? You need Ritalin. Your wife driving you nuts? You need booze lol.

A close friend's child has ASD and just started school. He's doing fine. Everything will work out, best of luck.

Jimmy, that's exactly one of the types of BS I was describing- the notion that "back then" they couldn't detect ASD, must've confused it with Mental Retardation, or "he's different". It's an outright LIE perpetuated by the DHHS and DSC. The differences between ASD and every other mental impairment are so stark that even 700 years ago, we had the medical know-how to detect it. The simple fact is that ASD didn't exist until about the 2nd quarter of the 20th century.

I don't believe you are lying on purpose with that sentiment, but you are repeating a "talking point" that is incorrect. It's what most people believe, just because CNN repeated what the DHHS told them

Huh? A new mental condition? Highly doubtful. We just have better science now. Sorry.

Huh? A new mental condition? Highly doubtful. We just have better science now. Sorry.

You really believe we could make significant medical advances such as inventing microscopes, identifying bacteria, fungus, various illnesses and discover ways to treat them; see different mental illnesses like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and depression, yet were too stupid to see the huge differences that ASD has from all of them, including mental retardation?

I know I put you in a position where you would feel the need to defend yourself, but do this topic a favor and show some capacity to admit you just repeated something you heard and consider the possibility that you are wrong. ASD is the last thing on the planet that needs more misinformation repeated, especially to newcomers like GT.

Penicillin is less than 100 years old (officially). Most of modern medicine is relatively new. We are only scratching the surface of the brain, most of it is a mystery. Science is making new discoveries daily. It is far more likely that these conditions have been around forever and that we're just learning about them than to think they could arise recently. I don't need to repeat anything I've heard, I have a brain and I'm quite capable of stating what I think, thank you.

Penicillin is less than 100 years old (officially). Most of modern medicine is relatively new. We are only scratching the surface of the brain, most of it is a mystery. Science is making new discoveries daily. It is far more likely that these conditions have been around forever and that we're just learning about them than to think they could arise recently. I don't need to repeat anything I've heard, I have a brain and I'm quite capable of stating what I think, thank you.

Lady's and Gentleman, Dr. Sheldon Cooper Haasss left the building!

Jesus, y'all can turn any thread into an argument.



gtZip... good luck! I'm hoping the best fo you and your kid.

Lighten up bro! I just think Jimmy is being insensitive and a bit of a know it all!

Dizz, Its a free country and forum. I recognize your right to comment on your displeasure with me over my displeasure with Jimmy's insensitivity!

Penicillin is less than 100 years old (officially). Most of modern medicine is relatively new. We are only scratching the surface of the brain, most of it is a mystery. Science is making new discoveries daily. It is far more likely that these conditions have been around forever and that we're just learning about them than to think they could arise recently. I don't need to repeat anything I've heard, I have a brain and I'm quite capable of stating what I think, thank you.

Thats fine if you want to think that, but medical science was documenting mental and behavioral disorders for the last 1000 years, and even some dating back as far as -300 BC, and while mental retardation symptoms and behaviors, as well as the others I mentioned are well documented, the most common symptoms of ASD, such as 'flapping', extremely specific eating disorders, specific physical habits, specific verbal traits, etc.. None of these traits existed in medical documentation prior to the 1950's, period. A person would literally need an IQ less than 40 not to notice the wildly dramatic differences that are specific to ASD. I've been surrounded by all levels on the autism spectrum for 9+ years, and anyone who has worked extensively with ASD children would tell you the same.

Or you can see it this way-
If you are in your 40's now, think back to elementary school. How many kids were mentally affected as a percentage of your class, or even whole school? I remember in middle school, we had about 400 kids in the school. One classroom for mentally challenged kids, I remember there were three kids in that classroom. That was for ALL mentally affected kids. ADD and ADHD nonwithstanding, now it's 1 in 8 kids have a moderate to severe impairment. Many of them are bussed out to speciality schools, which are far greater in number than 30 years ago, and others in IU's; some kids are placed in regular classrooms, and others in special classrooms. They now have different rooms for ASD, MR, DS, etc.. and most of them are at or past capacity. The schools are over-run and believe me, it's stressing their budgets worse than any other aspect.

So why the sudden explosion over the last 30 years? We just got better at detecting ASD, MR, DS, etc..??

The conclusions are obvious.

. double post ug

I guess I will spell it out why I'm obviously very passionate about the issue of ASD "causes".

The powers that be would have everyone believe that ASD is genetic, and has been around since the dawn of man. They've even contrived a very compelling (although thin) argument centered around genetic differences that some autistics have, and continue to dump most of the autism funding into that, knowing full well that it's not going to ever really lead to any real, viable, or permanent solutions to what could now be called an epidemic.

ASD diagnosis now is officially more than 10x more common than juvenile diabetes, juvenile lukemia + cancers, downs syndrome, and all other juvenile diseases, ALL COMBINED.

Again, the powers that be would have you believe that it's all just a matter of coincidence that we now finally recognize it and were just too stupid to see it before, which is a total crock. The real reason behind their lies is simply that autism is an environmentally-caused disorder. It's a poisoning. Several groups of scientists outside the US have declared that as fact, citing that the facts just don't support any other theory. You REALLY have to dig to find this information. It's taken me 9+ years and I'm sure I've only scratched the surface of just how deep and sick our leaders are.

They knew all along that it was happening and getting worse. They have allowed it to happen, our environment has been poisoned to the point that no fresh water in the USA is even safe to drink anymore (they won't tell you that, of course). The US Wildlife association deemed that in 49 states, freshwater fish had dangerous levels of mercury in them. Vaccines still contain thermisol even though the governments maintains that it was removed nearly 10 years ago. Flu shots have a massive amount in them, but are excluded from the terminology of childrens vaccines. These vaccines also contain formaldehyde, aluminum sulfate, and anti-freeze. It's all documented fact. Over the last 30 years they have continually approved an increased schedule in vaccines, tripling and even quadripling doses in combined shots.

The PPM guidelines with all of those toxic chemicals are based on ingestion, and no studies have ever been conducted to ascertain the PPM tolerance when the same chemicals are injected directly into the blood stream. And you have to wonder why in the hell do they need to put toxic chemicals into the vaccines? I sure did. I found the disgusting answer too.

Shelf life. They act as preservatives. Longer shelf life = greater profits. 10's of thousands of parents have requested the vaccine makes create "green vaccines" that are organic. All of us are willing to pay more for the safety of our kids. And so far, they've refused. They claimed once to have released green vaccines, but independent testing revealed that they were a lie.

Much of this information can be found in segments through the independent media, but the mass media paints a far different picture. A picture of parents who are derranged and "anti-vaccine", directly contrasting the "green vaccines" the parents really asked for.

Not that anyone even really knows if it's the vaccines or just everyday pollution, but environmental toxins are absolutely the key. Poisonous vaccines are still the most likely culprit. Most parents of severe ASD children agree, their kids almost always went through dramatic withdrawls after a multi-shot vaccination. Again, the mass media takes that information and paints parents as hysterical idiots drawing incorrect conclusions, but even the dumbest caveman can see obvious patterns and draw simple conclusions. These conclusions directly go against the standard government and big pharma propaganda.

Here's the best way I know to explain it:

all things considered equal, take 10 similar men, and then take 10 similar poisonious snakes. Have one snake per man bite them. Wait 30 minutes and give the antidote.

Most likely 1 of those 10 men will die, while the other nine live.

When asked why the man died, the government will tell you that the man had a genetic deficiency and couldn't tolerate the poison, which in all rights is factually true if you have a very narrow point of view.. but....

The simple and common truth is that the guy died because he was poisoned.

I guess I will spell it out why I'm obviously very passionate about the issue of ASD "causes".

The powers that be would have everyone believe that ASD is genetic, and has been around since the dawn of man. They've even contrived a very compelling (although thin) argument centered around genetic differences that some autistics have, and continue to dump most of the autism funding into that, knowing full well that it's not going to ever really lead to any real, viable, or permanent solutions to what could now be called an epidemic.

ASD diagnosis now is officially more than 10x more common than juvenile diabetes, juvenile lukemia + cancers, downs syndrome, and all other juvenile diseases, ALL COMBINED.

Again, the powers that be would have you believe that it's all just a matter of coincidence that we now finally recognize it and were just too stupid to see it before, which is a total crock. The real reason behind their lies is simply that autism is an environmentally-caused disorder. It's a poisoning. Several groups of scientists outside the US have declared that as fact, citing that the facts just don't support any other theory. You REALLY have to dig to find this information. It's taken me 9+ years and I'm sure I've only scratched the surface of just how deep and sick our leaders are.

They knew all along that it was happening and getting worse. They have allowed it to happen, our environment has been poisoned to the point that no fresh water in the USA is even safe to drink anymore (they won't tell you that, of course). The US Wildlife association deemed that in 49 states, freshwater fish had dangerous levels of mercury in them. Vaccines still contain thermisol even though the governments maintains that it was removed nearly 10 years ago. Flu shots have a massive amount in them, but are excluded from the terminology of childrens vaccines. These vaccines also contain formaldehyde, aluminum sulfate, and anti-freeze. It's all documented fact. Over the last 30 years they have continually approved an increased schedule in vaccines, tripling and even quadripling doses in combined shots.

The PPM guidelines with all of those toxic chemicals are based on ingestion, and no studies have ever been conducted to ascertain the PPM tolerance when the same chemicals are injected directly into the blood stream. And you have to wonder why in the hell do they need to put toxic chemicals into the vaccines? I sure did. I found the disgusting answer too.

Shelf life. They act as preservatives. Longer shelf life = greater profits. 10's of thousands of parents have requested the vaccine makes create "green vaccines" that are organic. All of us are willing to pay more for the safety of our kids. And so far, they've refused. They claimed once to have released green vaccines, but independent testing revealed that they were a lie.

Much of this information can be found in segments through the independent media, but the mass media paints a far different picture. A picture of parents who are derranged and "anti-vaccine", directly contrasting the "green vaccines" the parents really asked for.

Not that anyone even really knows if it's the vaccines or just everyday pollution, but environmental toxins are absolutely the key. Poisonous vaccines are still the most likely culprit. Most parents of severe ASD children agree, their kids almost always went through dramatic withdrawls after a multi-shot vaccination. Again, the mass media takes that information and paints parents as hysterical idiots drawing incorrect conclusions, but even the dumbest caveman can see obvious patterns and draw simple conclusions. These conclusions directly go against the standard government and big pharma propaganda.

Here's the best way I know to explain it:

all things considered equal, take 10 similar men, and then take 10 similar poisonious snakes. Have one snake per man bite them. Wait 30 minutes and give the antidote.

Most likely 1 of those 10 men will die, while the other nine live.

When asked why the man died, the government will tell you that the man had a genetic deficiency and couldn't tolerate the poison, which in all rights is factually true if you have a very narrow point of view.. but....

The simple and common truth is that the guy died because he was poisoned.

Its difficult to even assert environmental factors. For example, Washington, has a few Superfund sites, and oddly enough there are increaqsed reports of MS in or near those areas... Also a few cases of ASD.

In the case of ASD, nobody has outright proclaimed it to be a developmental disorder. Really when yo think about it, its not a cognitive skills (or IQ) problem...It may be an EQ problaem...But I merely speculate. Regardless, its a physiological problem with no real answers yet.

BTW , Cancer research has been raising funds for damn near 60 years. Gotta wonder when the hell that gravy train finally produces a cure...
ASD research isnt as sexy, so they dont get as much funding...