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#185692 by PaperDog
Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:00 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Depends on what you mean "have". Have for fellow citizens? That would depend on the individuals and their beliefs. If they're extremist Muslims or Texans who use terms like "towel heads", neither. If they're peaceful and non-racist, both.


Not every Texan are racist Jimmy! I like to think of myself as a REALIST! I dislike folks that want to destroy our society, country and my STATE! I prefer to live and let live. Only problem is thats not other folks agenda. They would just as soon Blow you up, cause you bodily harm, reconquer!

I believe a lot of the folks in this country are racist against Texas! I much prefer they tell me to my face they don't like Texans!


Having personally treaded (in Peace) across some middle east trails, (I.e I was in Bahrain, Pakistan etc). I have to say, many people in the villages, towns and cities were not mean, evil people. They were kind, generous, giving folks.

We have to realize that guys over there, who blow up other people are 'criminals', whether they murder for political recognition or whether they do it to out -do Buffalo Bill.

A criminal is a criminal any way you slice him (No pun intended)

The most common mistake that Americans are making about Muslum people , is that they mis-associating Islam religion and its follower directly with acts of criminal behavior.

The middle east secular state of affairs (in some regions) is comparable to our days during the "Wild Wild West". Laws were not entirely up to par with the rampant anti social behaviors of criminals.

When I lived in California, It was a muslum man, who once gave me a job, when nobody else would give me the time of day. He gave me that job, knowing it was a hit on my pride, but explaining his desire to help me. His wife was equally kind, and networked my name to other opportunities. In the end, they gave kindness and consideration, where many of my own 'christian brothers and sisters gave me contempt and ridicule. (The truth be told, my 'christian ' folk simply weren't real christian..they only pretended to be) . The kicker here is that the man was from India, not Iran or Yemen, etc.

This should illustrate that culture may have something to do with sentiments toward other groups of people. Nobody is born with Hatred. Hatred must be 'taught'. Where shall the cycle end?

I do not agree with fundamental Islamic principles...(when I compare them with fundamental Christian Principles ) But I don't wish to kill those whom I disagree with.

Be it Muslums or Christians, I am an equal-opportunity staunch defender against ALL criminals

#185695 by J-HALEY
Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:11 pm
PaperDog wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Depends on what you mean "have". Have for fellow citizens? That would depend on the individuals and their beliefs. If they're extremist Muslims or Texans who use terms like "towel heads", neither. If they're peaceful and non-racist, both.


Not every Texan are racist Jimmy! I like to think of myself as a REALIST! I dislike folks that want to destroy our society, country and my STATE! I prefer to live and let live. Only problem is thats not other folks agenda. They would just as soon Blow you up, cause you bodily harm, reconquer!

I believe a lot of the folks in this country are racist against Texas! I much prefer they tell me to my face they don't like Texans!


Having personally treaded (in Peace) across some middle east trails, (I.e I was in Bahrain, Pakistan etc). I have to say, many people in the villages, towns and cities were not mean, evil people. They were kind, generous, giving folks.

We have to realize that guys over there, who blow up other people are 'criminals', whether they murder for political recognition or whether they do it to out -do Buffalo Bill.

A criminal is a criminal any way you slice him (No pun intended)

The most common mistake that Americans are making about Muslum people , is that they mis-associating Islam religion and its follower directly with acts of criminal behavior.

The middle east secular state of affairs (in some regions) is comparable to our days during the "Wild Wild West". Laws were not entirely up to par with the rampant anti social behaviors of criminals.

When I lived in California, It was a muslum man, who once gave me a job, when nobody else would give me the time of day. He gave me that job, knowing it was a hit on my pride, but explaining his desire to help me. His wife was equally kind, and networked my name to other opportunities. In the end, they gave kindness and consideration, where many of my own 'christian brothers and sisters gave me contempt and ridicule. (The truth be told, my 'christian ' folk simply weren't real christian..they only pretended to be) . The kicker here is that the man was from India, not Iran or Yemen, etc.

This should illustrate that culture may have something to do with sentiments toward other groups of people. Nobody is born with Hatred. Hatred must be 'taught'. Where shall the cycle end?

I do not agree with fundamental Islamic principles...(when I compare them with fundamental Christian Principles ) But I don't wish to kill those whom I disagree with.

Be it Muslums or Christians, I am an equal-opportunity staunch defender against ALL criminals


Dawg, one of my coworkers boss is a Muslim he calls a meeting every Monday morning with his department. The Tuesday after Labor Day 3 people showed up and 2 were late that PEACEFUL MUSLIM looked at another PEACEFUL MUSLIM and said "Damn Americans" In our own country they can say sh!t like that about us! Imagine if it was the other way around? Americans would loose their job! The situation is as it is because of people like Jimmy, Kramer, and other liberals that want every thing fair for EVERY ONE EXCEPT AMERICANS! I don't mean any disrespect to the afore' mentioned folks but that is my opinion!

#185696 by gbheil
Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:19 pm
PaperDog wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Depends on what you mean "have". Have for fellow citizens? That would depend on the individuals and their beliefs. If they're extremist Muslims or Texans who use terms like "towel heads", neither. If they're peaceful and non-racist, both.


Not every Texan are racist Jimmy! I like to think of myself as a REALIST! I dislike folks that want to destroy our society, country and my STATE! I prefer to live and let live. Only problem is thats not other folks agenda. They would just as soon Blow you up, cause you bodily harm, reconquer!

I believe a lot of the folks in this country are racist against Texas! I much prefer they tell me to my face they don't like Texans!


Having personally treaded (in Peace) across some middle east trails, (I.e I was in Bahrain, Pakistan etc). I have to say, many people in the villages, towns and cities were not mean, evil people. They were kind, generous, giving folks.

We have to realize that guys over there, who blow up other people are 'criminals', whether they murder for political recognition or whether they do it to out -do Buffalo Bill.

A criminal is a criminal any way you slice him (No pun intended)

The most common mistake that Americans are making about Muslum people , is that they mis-associating Islam religion and its follower directly with acts of criminal behavior.

The middle east secular state of affairs (in some regions) is comparable to our days during the "Wild Wild West". Laws were not entirely up to par with the rampant anti social behaviors of criminals.

When I lived in California, It was a muslum man, who once gave me a job, when nobody else would give me the time of day. He gave me that job, knowing it was a hit on my pride, but explaining his desire to help me. His wife was equally kind, and networked my name to other opportunities. In the end, they gave kindness and consideration, where many of my own 'christian brothers and sisters gave me contempt and ridicule. (The truth be told, my 'christian ' folk simply weren't real christian..they only pretended to be) . The kicker here is that the man was from India, not Iran or Yemen, etc.

This should illustrate that culture may have something to do with sentiments toward other groups of people. Nobody is born with Hatred. Hatred must be 'taught'. Where shall the cycle end?

I do not agree with fundamental Islamic principles...(when I compare them with fundamental Christian Principles ) But I don't wish to kill those whom I disagree with.

Be it Muslums or Christians, I am an equal-opportunity staunch defender against ALL criminals


I could not have said it better myself though I have tried many times.

Well except that part about the " wild west ". The west was not that wild in reality. Armed men are for the most part polite men.
And criminals were hanged without any wasted time.

#185699 by gtZip
Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:43 pm
It might interest you to know that racism was a part of the Rastafarian
Religion.

No whites allowed.

#185702 by DainNobody
Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:53 pm
I'm not sure worshiping a spliff would be much of a religion anyhow :P

#185704 by JCP61
Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:03 pm
lets face it, everyone is a "nice guy" when you get them alone.

but put your smiley pleasant mannered muslim, african. asian, brit, scott, or what have you; with a crowd of his own kind and he will gleefully hang you by your nuts, then draw, quarter you and feed you to his kids for supper.
especially if there's some valuables at stake.

#185707 by Planetguy
Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:19 pm
J-HALEY wrote:Dawg, one of my coworkers boss is a Muslim he calls a meeting every Monday morning with his department. The Tuesday after Labor Day 3 people showed up and 2 were late that PEACEFUL MUSLIM looked at another PEACEFUL MUSLIM and said "Damn Americans" In our own country they can say sh!t like that about us! Imagine if it was the other way around? Americans would loose their job! The situation is as it is because of people like Jimmy, Kramer, and other liberals that want every thing fair for EVERY ONE EXCEPT AMERICANS! I don't mean any disrespect to the afore' mentioned folks but that is my opinion!


and jeff....i gotta ask...if the person making that comment was German, Japanese, Swedish, or Spanish, or....

...would you hold THEIR comment against their fellow countrymen who had nothing to do w the comment or the person who made it???

#185709 by DainNobody
Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:24 pm
and today more Muslims ripped our U.S. Embassy flag to bits in Egypt.. guess some Christian preacher in Florida has them rialed up again...

#185712 by Planetguy
Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:40 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:and today more Muslims ripped our U.S. Embassy flag to bits in Egypt.. guess some Christian preacher in Florida has them rialed up again...



you know what...those who did that are idiots. some independent nobody filmaker makes a film that 5 people are gonna see...they think it insults mohammed and so take it out on people that had squat to do with.

some will use this to justify blind across the board hatred of ALL muslims.

and others...others will recognize that idiots live everywhere. idiots follow many different religions. idiots belong to the democratic party and idiots belong to the republican party.

idiots live in texas. idiots live in ny. idiots live in tebbetts mo.

where you live, which religion you subscribe to (or don't) doesn't make you an idiot.

people are people wherever ya go. some's good. some's not so good. some's smart. some not so much so.

keep in mind that these idiots who did that today do NOT represent ALL muslims or every muslim's views.

#185714 by J-HALEY
Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm
Planetguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:Dawg, one of my coworkers boss is a Muslim he calls a meeting every Monday morning with his department. The Tuesday after Labor Day 3 people showed up and 2 were late that PEACEFUL MUSLIM looked at another PEACEFUL MUSLIM and said "Damn Americans" In our own country they can say sh!t like that about us! Imagine if it was the other way around? Americans would loose their job! The situation is as it is because of people like Jimmy, Kramer, and other liberals that want every thing fair for EVERY ONE EXCEPT AMERICANS! I don't mean any disrespect to the afore' mentioned folks but that is my opinion!


and jeff....i gotta ask...if the person making that comment was German, Japanese, Swedish, or Spanish, or....

...would you hold THEIR comment against their fellow countrymen who had nothing to do w the comment or the person who made it???


Yes I would. Lets face it Mark 2+2=4 real simple math. They (muslims) have a terrorist organization that needs FUNDING. Where do you think that funding is coming from? They send planes of terror to KILL FRIENDS and aquaintance's of YOURS in those towers meanwhile back at the ranch (raghead land) they dance in the street in celebration! A man with A LOT TO LOOSE 280K plus a year makes a comment like the one made to my co-worker without any fear! Come on Mark you don't see a pattern here? Did you get my message? I got yours.

#185715 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:50 pm
Planetguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:Dawg, one of my coworkers boss is a Muslim he calls a meeting every Monday morning with his department. The Tuesday after Labor Day 3 people showed up and 2 were late that PEACEFUL MUSLIM looked at another PEACEFUL MUSLIM and said "Damn Americans" In our own country they can say sh!t like that about us! Imagine if it was the other way around? Americans would loose their job! The situation is as it is because of people like Jimmy, Kramer, and other liberals that want every thing fair for EVERY ONE EXCEPT AMERICANS! I don't mean any disrespect to the afore' mentioned folks but that is my opinion!


and jeff....i gotta ask...if the person making that comment was German, Japanese, Swedish, or Spanish, or....

...would you hold THEIR comment against their fellow countrymen who had nothing to do w the comment or the person who made it???


That wasn't the point and you are just to stupid to have it explained to you. Now why don't you just run home to your momma so she can teach you how to wipe your butt.
I don't Like anything about you. You want to start something? You want to give me an ass whooping?

You better just run home to momma! You don't like me, I don't like you.
You started it,,,,, I don't care if people get fed up,,, I'm gonna finnish it.

Is it is OK for anyone to say DAMN AMERICANS? Not in my book,,,, by I happen to know some real Americans that don't suck up and run for mommas skirt every time stuff happens.

I'm sure your momma was a fine woman but I bet she regretted the day you were born.

You better give me a whoopin'. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#185716 by Planetguy
Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:55 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Planetguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:Dawg, one of my coworkers boss is a Muslim he calls a meeting every Monday morning with his department. The Tuesday after Labor Day 3 people showed up and 2 were late that PEACEFUL MUSLIM looked at another PEACEFUL MUSLIM and said "Damn Americans" In our own country they can say sh!t like that about us! Imagine if it was the other way around? Americans would loose their job! The situation is as it is because of people like Jimmy, Kramer, and other liberals that want every thing fair for EVERY ONE EXCEPT AMERICANS! I don't mean any disrespect to the afore' mentioned folks but that is my opinion!


and jeff....i gotta ask...if the person making that comment was German, Japanese, Swedish, or Spanish, or....

...would you hold THEIR comment against their fellow countrymen who had nothing to do w the comment or the person who made it???


Yes I would. Lets face it Mark 2+2=4 real simple math. They (muslims) have a terrorist organization that needs FUNDING. Where do you think that funding is coming from? They send planes of terror to KILL FRIENDS and aquaintance's of YOURS in those towers meanwhile back at the ranch (raghead land) they dance in the street in celebration! A man with A LOT TO LOOSE 280K plus a year makes a comment like the one made to my co-worker without any fear! Come on Mark you don't see a pattern here? Did you get my message? I got yours.


i see the same things happening and the same stuff that went down as you do jeff. but from what i've seen and experienced...i just can't put everyone in the same bag.

i've know too many muslims who share our revulsion and hatred of terrorism and love america, and love freedom.

maybe it's a poor analogy but we were at war w nazi germany. many (most? all?) nazis thought there was nothing wrong w genocide. afterall they were eradicating inferiors. it would be very easy to accuse ALL germans of being guilty of that. history shows otherwise.

there's good people everywhere. there's bad people everywhere. there are saints everwhere...and there are shits everywhere.

at least that's how i see it.

and, yeah i did get your mssg. jeff. one coming your way soon.

#185718 by DainNobody
Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:05 am
I know for a fact the vast majority of Muslims are decent law abiding people with as good of community and social values as any class/ethnicty/race of people, but unless we do something about that small minority of radical Muslims we will live to see something happen again to America that will not be good..those that stormed the American Embassy today could have caused WWIII if an embassy person would have been harmed today.. that's all it took for WWI to happen, just one or two assassinations..

#185719 by J-HALEY
Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:10 am
Planetguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Planetguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:Dawg, one of my coworkers boss is a Muslim he calls a meeting every Monday morning with his department. The Tuesday after Labor Day 3 people showed up and 2 were late that PEACEFUL MUSLIM looked at another PEACEFUL MUSLIM and said "Damn Americans" In our own country they can say sh!t like that about us! Imagine if it was the other way around? Americans would loose their job! The situation is as it is because of people like Jimmy, Kramer, and other liberals that want every thing fair for EVERY ONE EXCEPT AMERICANS! I don't mean any disrespect to the afore' mentioned folks but that is my opinion!


and jeff....i gotta ask...if the person making that comment was German, Japanese, Swedish, or Spanish, or....

...would you hold THEIR comment against their fellow countrymen who had nothing to do w the comment or the person who made it???


Yes I would. Lets face it Mark 2+2=4 real simple math. They (muslims) have a terrorist organization that needs FUNDING. Where do you think that funding is coming from? They send planes of terror to KILL FRIENDS and aquaintance's of YOURS in those towers meanwhile back at the ranch (raghead land) they dance in the street in celebration! A man with A LOT TO LOOSE 280K plus a year makes a comment like the one made to my co-worker without any fear! Come on Mark you don't see a pattern here? Did you get my message? I got yours.


i see the same things happening and the same stuff that went down as you do jeff. but from what i've seen and experienced...i just can't put everyone in the same bag.

i've know too many muslims who share our revulsion and hatred of terrorism and love america, and love freedom.

maybe it's a poor analogy but we were at war w nazi germany. many (most? all?) nazis thought there was nothing wrong w genocide. afterall they were eradicating inferiors. it would be very easy to accuse ALL germans of being guilty of that. history shows otherwise.

there's good people everywhere. there's bad people everywhere. there are saints everwhere...and there are shits everywhere.

at least that's how i see it.

and, yeah i did get your mssg. jeff. one coming your way soon.


Hey guys I know this is an emotional day it is VERY tough to maintain when talking about such a passionate Topic. No alcohol for this boy tonight! Please lets keep these discussions civil PLEASE? Mark I am not saying to harm or kill or retaliate in ANY way against innocent human beings of ANY RACE! I just DO NOT trust them! NEVER WILL. Just like GEORGE W said shortly after "WE will make no distinction between those terrorist that caused 9/11 and those that harbor them! My point to all this is I have never seen one NOT ONE Muslim condemn or do ANYTHING to stop them! I know a lot. I work with them.

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