General Music Chat

on one hand you have a sketch of a guitar neck kinda floating in space,
the more you add to it the more confusing it gets, so you must draw it lots of times to get your info across.
add to that other than the position of your fingers it really tells you nothing at all.

on the other hand I have a universal media that all western musicians can interpret regardless of the instrument they play.

it tells me the true key of the song, making transposing easy.
it tells me the time signature of the song we are going to play.
and we still get to decide for our selves the meter.
allowing a degree of personalization.
and in this case it tells me that this person wants to play everything in the bar an octave higher than written
it dose NOT tell me where to play the notes on my fret board allowing me room to address my particular inclination towards tone.
though this would not be true for piano.
as middle C is always middle C

my personal opinion is that tab is a complete waste of time,
but will help you be an efficient imitator.

reading staff is intimidating, but easier than tab.
sight reading anything (the act of playing straight off the paper without practice) is difficult of course, and requires years of learning.

by the way, the mixolydian scale is hardly a typical classical scale, as it is a 1st order accidental, known as the Dom7 scale, very harsh and bluesy
found most commonly in jazz and blues.
even then, the chord is altered to soften it's voicings to slide transitions to outside notes.
in classical music the Dom 7 is rarely the 1st choice modulation.

Do you know any easy way that I can learn it on my own? It's not that I DONT want to, i just can find a way to. I bought a cheap book on it, but it doesnt help me much.

really it easy to see more than is really there.



like Sr Imaculata taught us
that lady on the left is "Mrs G clef"
notes on the line=Every Good Boy Dose Fine
note in between=FACE

easy

lines on staff are separated by thirds
three lines together are a triad and that's called a chord.

I understand all of that stuff; and I know the name of the notes on the fretboard too. The thing that throws me off is how do you know where that note is supposed to be played when you see it written down in sheet music form? Is this A# note supposed to played on the G string or this D string. Things like that.

lol

Try to read everything you can related to guitar.

The guitar handbook or guitar bible is a great reference as well.

http://books.google.com/books/about/The ... ljnlqbDzIC

http://www.amazon.com/The-Heavy-Guitar- ... 0895240661

Believe me, I do ha. I just dont have much money right now, but I'm trying to get some lessons!

josh, the point you bring up about where to play a particular point IS a perfectly valid one.

guitar is unique in a number of ways. one of them being that you can find the same pitch located in several different places. (to a much lesser degree this is also the case w brass and wind instruments). this can be confusing for folks that haven't been at it all that long.

and down the road when you get things mapped out and better wired.....you'll be ready and excited about finding and using different fingerings and fretting options......like perhaps playing a phrase or string of notes on a single string to acheive the phrasing and tone you hear in your head.

imo tablature is useful but it should never replace learning standard notation. like jcp said.....tab can never impart the same amount of info. i do think it has it's uses and value when it comes to working out fingerings for some folks.

another suggestion for you, josh. in addition to learning and running scales you should also work on arpeggios. i don't mean just fingering a chord and picking each note individually up and down...but instead taking a scale and playing the root, third, and fifth starting from each scale degree. arps are a great way to outline a chord.

much classical, jazz, blues...hell, pretty much ALL music leans heavily on arps.

getting their sound (and shapes/fingerings) wired into your ears, head, and hands can be very helpful.

later you can add the seventh degree for each arp/chord and start them from different places (i.e. inversions)

YOU ARE TALKING WAY OVER HIS HEAD. Planet jerk.
He knows a few chords. He is trying to learn guitar, not bass.
You are not helping. He is 17. The only truss rod he is really adjusting is the one between his legs. After that he only has the most basic of skills.

I guess you gonna teach him just like you teach us other non players, HUH!

I love jerks.......

Hi Josh. Each scales have modes, each modes can be played in different fingerings and position. I know all scales in modes for Major, Melodic Minor, Pentatonic, Harmonic Minor, Hungarian Minor, Neopolitan Minor, Hirojoshi Scale etc. I learned to graph them out using this book:



This book is a good "encyclopedia" for scales and modes. It is meant to be for reference and a time saver for graphing out fingerings and positions for you. Neoclassical Shred is more about the use of musical mechanics that were utilized in the classical and romantic era incorporated into modern guitar driven music. Learning scales and modes won't give you the talent to become a neoclassical shredder, this talent comes with practice and learning how to use your form, melodies, and phrases over classical progression. Good luck and I hope this book helps.

we have 4 folks running around here that make it difficult to even post a POSITIVE MUSICAL POST.

look out everyone! here comes the glenny the pool shitter again. time to take a sh*t in yet another thread cos why?....never mind. cos' that's who you are. and you have nothing else to offer. we get it. we've seen it a thousand times and no doubt you'll take a crap in a 1000 other threads before you're done.

hey, at least you makecontributions that you can be proud of

YOU ARE TALKING WAY OVER HIS HEAD. Planet jerk.
He knows a few chords. He is trying to learn guitar, not bass.
You are not helping. He is 17.

hey, josh might be 17 but he shows way more maturity than you ever could. for instance, he can acknowledge there's stuff he doesn't know and not feel threatened by it....unlike your dumbass.

as for bass or guitar or sousaphone or my love flute in your mouth.....what??? you're such a dumbass that you think the rules of music are different for each instrument????

mah gawd....you are a moron.

now glenny... if you don't have any real contributions to make why don't you go back in your yard and burn some more ants w your magnifying glass.

Ignore him planetguy, I understand what most of what you are saying. I've been playing 11 months, not 11 days. I know SOME things, but not even close to all.

The only thing that I dont understand all that well is the term Arpeggios. I've tried looking for an explanation on the internet, but all of the stuff they say IS way over my head. Is there an easy, straight foward example that you could give me?

Now who is being the 17 year old? You want to put your flute in my mouth?

You are so pitiful.

Your last few posts just show how low you will stoop. You are just plain disgusting.
You can say whatever you want, keep it coming because you are becoming more disgusting line by line.
You think you are hurting my feelings????

Come on dude,,,, You wouldn't have the balls to say half that to my face.
Coming down your way soon,,, May give you a chance.

Ignore him planetguy, I understand what most of what you are saying. I've been playing 11 months, not 11 days. I know SOME things, but not even close to all.

The only thing that I dont understand all that well is the term Arpeggios. I've tried looking for an explanation on the internet, but all of the stuff they say IS way over my head. Is there an easy, straight foward example that you could give me?

Yeah, give up guitar, and learn typing.

Now who is being the 17 year old? You want to put your flute in my mouth?

it's not ME that wants it glenda. afterall, it's you who keeps coming around. so i gotta igure you're looking for a date. sorry i don't swing that way. mind you...not that there's anything wrong w it if that's your thing.

Your last few posts just show how low you will stoop. You are just plain disgusting.
You can say whatever you want, keep it coming because you are becoming more disgusting line by line.

ah, come off it you doofus hypocrite. you've proven again and again that you're the most vile and disgusting piece of sh*t ever to stink up a mssgboard.

nuthin to offer but more mean spirited sh*t slinging delivered w childish and clumsy, unimaginative writing. i can only imagine what your music must be like. (shudder)

You wouldn't have the balls to say half that to my face.
Coming down your way soon,,, May give you a chance.

cracking me up. you're a ball-less pu**y huffing and puffing, making threats on your pc! trust me tough guy...anything i say to you here.....you'd get exactly the same except louder in person. so, when ya do come to visit......leave your magnifying glass at home.... it won't get it done here.