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#183900 by PaperDog
Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:51 am
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:know the law before you say stupid things Lynard

Question: What is libel per se?

Answer: When libel is clear on its face, without the need for any explanatory matter, it is called libel per se. The following are often found to be libelous per se:

A statement that falsely:

Charges any person with crime, or with having been indicted, convicted, or punished for crime;
Imputes in him the present existence of an infectious, contagious, or loathsome disease;
Tends directly to injure him in respect to his office, profession, trade or business, either by imputing to him general disqualification in those respects that the office or other occupation peculiarly requires, or by imputing something with reference to his office, profession, trade, or business that has a natural tendency to lessen its profits;
Imputes to him impotence or a want of chastity.

Of course, context can still matter. If you respond to a post you don't like by beginning "Jane, you ignorant slut," it may imply a want of chastity on Jane's part. But you have a good chance of convincing a court this was mere hyperbole and pop cultural reference, not a false statement of fact.


You left out the most important element: You have to show that there were damages. No Damage, No case. Court Adjourned.

#183909 by DainNobody
Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:31 pm
my attorney guarantees my success.. but I am supposed to offer him the chance to retract his statements and apologize..
http://www.chillingeffects.org/defamation/faq.cgi

#183910 by DainNobody
Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:35 pm
the Lynard thinks he's sneaky altering my name to dame but it won't work

Question: What if I change the person's name?

Answer: To state a defamation claim, the person claiming defamation need not be mentioned by name ? the plaintiff only needs to be reasonably identifiable. So if you defame the "government executive who makes his home at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue," it is still reasonably identifiable as the president.

#183912 by DainNobody
Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:42 pm
that's why bandmix forum is on an egregious path, they have no moderators to keep the filth like Lynard from stating libelous statements..that's why we all our comments should be pre-screened .. saying something on a message board is publishing only not on newsprint..

#183924 by jw123
Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:07 pm
LOL, if you guys would act like grown ups with a little respect for each other then you wouldnt have any fun here Dane, your just as guilty of spreading crap on this board as Lynard is.

Get a life is my only advice, its funny to read this stuff sometimes, but then I think what the hell kinda life can a person have if they continue these little kiddy plays on the internet, must suck being you is all I can say.

#183931 by J-HALEY
Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:02 pm
jw123 wrote:LOL, if you guys would act like grown ups with a little respect for each other then you wouldnt have any fun here Dane, your just as guilty of spreading crap on this board as Lynard is.

Get a life is my only advice, its funny to read this stuff sometimes, but then I think what the hell kinda life can a person have if they continue these little kiddy plays on the internet, must suck being you is all I can say.

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :lol:

#183948 by Prevost82
Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:58 pm
jw123 wrote:LOL, if you guys would act like grown ups with a little respect for each other then you wouldnt have any fun here Dane, your just as guilty of spreading crap on this board as Lynard is.

Get a life is my only advice, its funny to read this stuff sometimes, but then I think what the hell kinda life can a person have if they continue these little kiddy plays on the internet, must suck being you is all I can say.


Image ... well said John

#184024 by DainNobody
Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:15 am
jw123 wrote:LOL, if you guys would act like grown ups with a little respect for each other then you wouldnt have any fun here Dane, your just as guilty of spreading crap on this board as Lynard is.

Get a life is my only advice, its funny to read this stuff sometimes, but then I think what the hell kinda life can a person have if they continue these little kiddy plays on the internet, must suck being you is all I can say.

so what's your advice then John, just let Lynard go mouthing unchecked? I'm supposed to just take his insults and live with it?

#184027 by DainNobody
Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:21 am
John if I recollect, you mentioned once about you and somebody had somebody on a message board once picking fights with you,, what did you finally come up with a solution? it looks like Lynard is dead set against being on good terms with me ever again, I don't think time is going to heal whatever is ailing him in his mind towards me...like I said once before I ain't seen him in person for months and proll years and we were on good terms then, so something happened on this board, that I am unaware it insulted him or something?.. I have got to admit you are right though about trading an insult with another better concocted insult, but Lynard is stuck on the eunuch sasquatch thing? is that all he can come up with? it ain't effective at all..

#184033 by J-HALEY
Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:36 am
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:John if I recollect, you mentioned once about you and somebody had somebody on a message board once picking fights with you,, what did you finally come up with a solution? it looks like Lynard is dead set against being on good terms with me ever again, I don't think time is going to heal whatever is ailing him in his mind towards me...like I said once before I ain't seen him in person for months and proll years and we were on good terms then, so something happened on this board, that I am unaware it insulted him or something?.. I have got to admit you are right though about trading an insult with another better concocted insult, but Lynard is stuck on the eunuch sasquatch thing? is that all he can come up with? it ain't effective at all..


I don't know you guys history but Dane what did you do that caused Lynard to call you a narc? Personally I would like to see you guys FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER! :)

#184035 by Starfish Scott
Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:37 am
Either that or FIGHT TO THE DEATH./.. lol

(I'll handle the ticket sales)

#184039 by J-HALEY
Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:44 am
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:Either that or FIGHT TO THE DEATH./.. lol

(I'll handle the ticket sales)


Cap'n you are such a spoon! :lol:

#184046 by DainNobody
Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:57 am
he knows this guitarist on Bandmix that is pretty good named Jeff Stockton, well, when they (Patrick, Morris, and co.) threw me under the bus, firing me over the phone, they got Jeff in the band, and I emailed Jeff beforehand, (not knowing they were going to recruit him) that I would like to meet him, since I think Jeff and Lynard had jammed together, but I did not know him or met him, and wanted to discuss me and him jamming sometime, and told him I did not like the way Patrick was so domineering in the band, and did not like his "band leader" ways, but Morris the drummer was so relieved to finally have a good bass player, (Patrick) he let him run it the way he wanted, and I did not like the way he did things.. well, I think people have said to Lynard that Dane says things behind people's backs, and they might have said I don't care for Lynard's playing, which is not true, I did not like him drowning me out the time or two we played w/ Morris but I overlooked it thinking he will adjust at some point.. Lynard thinks I talk about people but is not the case, plus he is just generally leery of me, why I don't know, but if you are doing things that you want to keep secret then I can see why he is leery I suppose, I don't have a jail record in the first place, and although I do not know much about the narc world, I am pretty sure they work with law enforcement to get reduction of their sentence, or they have cut a deal narcing to keep from getting sentenced.. I don't even have a record or anything, so it really pisses me off when Lynard lies about me being a narc, unless his meaning of the word for narc is different than what I always thought a narc to be? ... I give my opinions and if Lynard wants to take that as being a narc then let him think it..

#184053 by J-HALEY
Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:14 am
Dane, I hope you are learning from life and this process as I have. Sometimes when you say things it takes a little while for people to get over it, and that will not likely be soon enough for you! It WILL happen though. Just be patient.

#184056 by DainNobody
Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:18 am
I am thinking what Pavlov might have done to change behavior in one of his dogs? would a Pavlov experiment work on Lynard? LOL

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