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#180611 by J-HALEY
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:02 pm
Remember not to believe everything the press feeds you! Remember Loughner the guy that shot Gabby Gifford and the Sherriff that came out saying it was caused by all the right wing hate. Well Loughner turned out to be a Left wing liberal! My belief that not only was this guy a NUT CASE he WAS a DUMB@SS. Folks are saying he was after Muslims and these were a Completely different religion!

The world is full of hate from the Left and the Right. The world is also Full of NUTS! You guys know how I feel about Muslims? I would NEVER hurt one unless they were hurting me, my family, or an Inocent human! These folks that commit these crimes don't have "that caring thing" compassion for people. So they get it in their mind that they are going to hurt someone "usually doesn't matter who" They just go and do it! They are phukin NUTTSS!

#180615 by jimmydanger
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:17 pm
Actually it's not known whether he was liberal or conservative, only that he is nuts. If you have a link please provide it.

#180624 by J-HALEY
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:41 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Actually it's not known whether he was liberal or conservative, only that he is nuts. If you have a link please provide it.


I was refering to Jaryd Loughner when talking left leaning. This guy could be a right wing. I just prefer to wait for a few more facts before trying to find a political link on this latest shooting. :wink:

#180626 by Lynard Dylan
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:43 pm
Loughner lives 25 miles up the highway from
here at the Federal Pen

#180629 by jimmydanger
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:48 pm
I was referring Loughner too. I could find NOTHING online that indicates his political leanings. Crazy people aren't political, they're just nuts.

#180631 by J-HALEY
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:53 pm
jimmydanger wrote:I was referring Loughner too. I could find NOTHING online that indicates his political leanings. Crazy people aren't political, they're just nuts.


Agreed! This news story WILL be exploited to take away our guns and Ammo! I am waiting for the comments to FLY out of the whitehouse Press Secretary! :roll:

#180632 by DainNobody
Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:56 pm
Let em' try to get my guns... really don't think they will go after the guns, but rather shut off the ammo supply..

#180710 by MikeTalbot
Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:58 am
Mr. Haley

The Sikh shooter is apparentlyl a nazi - drudge has a picture of him playing what I assume is guitar under a swastica. A nazi musician... :oops:

I should note for the record that NAZI stands for National Socialist Workers Party.

We in the US need to rethink how we categorize ourselves politically. Far right would actually be libertarian. Right center would be most consertives. I bet both of those types would be willing to settle for constitutional government - if we but had it...

The left, left center and middle are the places for big govt - and ultimately, mass killing.

Talbot

#180784 by Lynard Dylan
Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:00 pm
Mass killing I've wrote a couple of songs
about it.

International Harvester

The War ON Drugs

Atomic Revolution


Maybe more than a couple

#180808 by gbheil
Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:18 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:Let em' try to get my guns... really don't think they will go after the guns, but rather shut off the ammo supply..



It's first step for sure Dane. When Obama took office he redirected all the military's spent brass out of the civilian market and was having it "destroyed".

Primers & powder became difficult to obtain as well.
I was selling 5.56 x 45 mm brass at a coffee can full per $100.00 as well as trading for primers & powder.

The art of reloading, bullet casting ETC is difficult to justify by economics especially when you consider start up costs.

I think it's an knowledge as necessary as knowing how to apply an bandage, obtain and purify water, or start a fire.

#180831 by DennyDream
Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:10 pm
Even tho the Nazi name has Socialist in it, they are considered far/extreme right. They're not left. They were Fascist, not socialist.

Far right ideologies tend to focus on superiority of a certain group, strong social hierarchy, religious/fanatical fundamentalism, and a whole host of other things.

There is a genre of "punk" that the white supremacists seem to get into.

#180839 by jimmydanger
Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:47 pm
They may look punk - tattoos, piercings, weird clothes, playing in bands, etc - but they are definitely not punk. Punks traditionally lean to the left or embrace anarchy, and racism is not tolerated. "Skinheads" believe in white supremacy (racism) and violence, and target minorities such as gays. You can't be punk and tolerate racism or homophobia.

#180841 by Planetguy
Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:59 pm
DennyDream wrote:Even tho the Nazi name has Socialist in it, they are considered far/extreme right. They're not left. They were Fascist, not socialist.

Far right ideologies tend to focus on superiority of a certain group, strong social hierarchy, religious/fanatical fundamentalism, and a whole host of other things.



thanks for posting that. absolutely right on the money. i'd venture to say that just like when most folks hear hoofbeats they don't think zebras but horses....i'd think that when most people think about examples of socialism they DON'T think nazi germany, and instead think of sweden, france, or our frostback neighbors to the north.

#180842 by Slacker G
Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:04 pm
Political affiliation is simply all propaganda.

If you were politically inspired to kill people wouldn't you go after the politicians who are screwing up our whole way of life as opposed to people at a movie, or in church or some other public place where politics are not being preached? How would you know which ones to shoot if these were political actions? Would you randomly kill the people on your side?

It is all leftist (for the most part) and media propaganda that emerges every time there is a shooting. It is always brought up as a reason for the Left to take away our right to bear arms, NOTHING MORE. It is simply an opportunity for politicians to disarm us and take away more of our freedom, nothing more.

An unarmed populace is an easy populace to subdue through the efforts of tyrants whose sole goal is to rule over you as kings.

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