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#179548 by jw123
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:11 pm
I thought it would be cool to start a different kind of thread, and Im sure it will evolve into name calling and all of that.

But what I wonder, is seeing the differences in opinions on so many levels between posters on this site.

Would it be possible to play in a band with someone who was so different in thier viewpoints on things such as religion and politics, or would that be a total deal breaker for people on here?

I can remember being in bands at one time or another that had this tension going on, and some of it came out in the music, of course I can remember a few situations coming to blows, one time actually on stage, LOL!

Im at a point to where the guys I play with, we just get along, but I realize that they have some different points of view, but it doesnt seem to matter these days, things that 30 yrs ago would have blown it apart arent that big of a deal anymore. I guess the 4 of us just enjoy playing and entertaining together enough that that stuff doesnt matter.

#179551 by GuitarMikeB
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:20 pm
Most of us, like fine wine or whiskey, 'mellow with age'! It's up to the individual to decide what is going to bother them and what is not about others.
One thing I have learned recently (thanks to a great group of people in a 12-step program) is that you can't change other people's behaviors, but you can change how you behave in reaction to their behaviors.

So in a band, I can ignore the anti-abortion or pro-gun rantings of another member - or the guy who thinks Todd Rundgren's lead guitar work sucks, or that the Who are washed up (as compared to the Beatles who broke up 43 years ago!)

Now if these world viewpoints come out in song choices (originals or covers), it can be a deal breaker.

#179555 by fisherman bob
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:25 pm
I've quit bands for personality conflict reasons and been kicked out of bands for the same reason. I'll bet the reason most bands split apart has little to do with the music. Kind of makes collaborating online more appealing for some people.

#179557 by jw123
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:27 pm
GMB Im a member of the 12 step club also, it takes 12 steps to get to the bar at my favorite hangout! I know sick joke.

Its funny cause my singer has some different views than I do, and sometimes when we are talking they come out and he trys to convince me of his point, hes very persistent in this, I just have to say sometimes look I respect you on so many levels, but I dont agree with you on this point and Im afraid if we keep conversing on it, it could damage the chemistry we have.

I mean we play in a band together, and i think our mission when we walk into a club or venue is simple, conquer the audience, win them over, whatever it takes to make them like us and want us back. I guess thats the key thing we have agreed on for close to 25 yrs, I have his back he has mine. SOng choices!!! LOL I could care less what a song says or means, just play my guitar and rock out is my part of it, most of the songs we do are just fun songs. I guess the only political songs we do are by Rage Against The Machine, but I just love the songs and getting to play some different types of solos than the typical song.

#179561 by gbheil
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:34 pm
No way . . . not only no but hell no.

I'm in rehearsal with my 1911 in a small of the back holster.
No one notices any more or even cares, they know it comes with the territory.

Add to that.
If what I'm doing musically does not carry and covey a message I can believe in / relate too. I'd just sell all this sh*t and do something else.

I'm in THIS for a reason, and the REASON for this is in me.

#179573 by jimmydanger
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:49 pm
I'm actually not that picky when it comes to bandmates, as long as they're not drunks or flakes (or right wing wackos lol). But Rasta will not play with any racists or homophobes, we had to fire people who were.

#179592 by J-HALEY
Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:37 pm
I will play with ANYONE in a band as long as they keep different opinions to themself's! I don't care if you are male, female, gay, lebian, black, white, redneck, hispanic (as long as your here legally), asian, hindu, muslim (non radical of course) liberal, independent, conservative. If you are a good musician and you play the kind of music I am interested in playing I'll play with you no problem.
The second you lie to me, mislead me, start spewing your difference of opinion as we say in Texas "its own" translation "its ON"! :wink:

#179595 by PaperDog
Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:06 pm
IF you need quick tour exposure, a fast buck or two and its just a project with an end, then I reckon anybody will do, long as they aren't genocidal maniacs. But if you want a meaningful business and creative partnership, then its gotta be somebody who's on your page in most, if not all manner of life... I'm guessing a solid friendship would have to ensue...or there has to be some significant history between members.

A band is lucky to obtain that tier, once in a lifetime (just ask any of the super celeb bands) , Its near impossible to replace it, a second time.

#179605 by Sir Jamsalot
Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:38 pm
Have you seen the Fleetwood Mac rockumentary titled "Classic Albums: Fleetwood Mac: Rumours (1997) NR". There was huge internal conflict they dealt with WHILE recording their breakthrough album. Worth a watch if you haven't - streaming on netflix btw.

#179629 by PaperDog
Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:37 pm
SirJamsalot wrote:Have you seen the Fleetwood Mac rockumentary titled "Classic Albums: Fleetwood Mac: Rumours (1997) NR". There was huge internal conflict they dealt with WHILE recording their breakthrough album. Worth a watch if you haven't - streaming on netflix btw.


I did catch that... I think in the core root of their musical relationship, they had the same compass, but I think Egos, juxtaposed with enormous responsibility , juxtaposed with many distractions, it was turbulent to say the least...But it would not have been "Fleetwood Mac" any other way...

#179657 by MikeTalbot
Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:40 am
George

You pack at rehearsals? :D I've heard of playing rough rooms - hell I've played a few - but damn! I thought you boys got along!

Or do you just pack all the time? (which is certainly fine with me. I'm a careful sort myself)

Talbot

#179661 by jimmydanger
Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:24 am
<sar>I often wonder how the hell I've survived without a gun, playing gigs in the most violent city in America for over thirty years. Must be one them miracles I hear tell about.</sar>

#179680 by Jahva
Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:48 pm
SirJamsalot wrote:Have you seen the Fleetwood Mac rockumentary titled "Classic Albums: Fleetwood Mac: Rumours (1997) NR". There was huge internal conflict they dealt with WHILE recording their breakthrough album. Worth a watch if you haven't - streaming on netflix btw.


That was an excellent doc.
Almost like they spent that time in purgatory or prison until they got it done.

How bout when Christie explains "You make lovin fun" was about her new beau while she and John were splitting up. They didn't talk to one another through the whole sessions in Sausalito.
The break down of the individual music parts was... some great insight… very educational for me.
An amazing album about division... or maybe not allowing that division to wipe them out... never break the chain.

#179690 by fisherman bob
Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:11 pm
sanshouheil wrote:No way . . . not only no but hell no.

I'm in rehearsal with my 1911 in a small of the back holster.
No one notices any more or even cares, they know it comes with the territory.

Add to that.
If what I'm doing musically does not carry and covey a message I can believe in / relate too. I'd just sell all this sh*t and do something else.

I'm in THIS for a reason, and the REASON for this is in me.
. You gotta respect somebody who has a clear, unequivacle message, whether you agree with them or not.

#179699 by Sir Jamsalot
Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:44 pm
Jahva wrote:
SirJamsalot wrote:Have you seen the Fleetwood Mac rockumentary titled "Classic Albums: Fleetwood Mac: Rumours (1997) NR". There was huge internal conflict they dealt with WHILE recording their breakthrough album. Worth a watch if you haven't - streaming on netflix btw.


That was an excellent doc.
Almost like they spent that time in purgatory or prison until they got it done.

How bout when Christie explains "You make lovin fun" was about her new beau while she and John were splitting up. They didn't talk to one another through the whole sessions in Sausalito.
The break down of the individual music parts was... some great insight… very educational for me.
An amazing album about division... or maybe not allowing that division to wipe them out... never break the chain.


Yah. You could tell even in the interviews about their personal relationship struggles, they weren't over it, even though they tried to infer that they were. I loved the part where the mixing engineer pulled back everything except the vocals harmonies - they were spot on.


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